No FPS gaming possible

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Re: No FPS gaming possible

Post by dervu » 30 Aug 2025, 05:11

To confirm you have batching:
https://pastebin.com/FgE8LSmM
Any of that should be visible in wireshark if you plot it.
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Re: No FPS gaming possible

Post by themagic » 30 Aug 2025, 05:12

LaggyTyp wrote:
29 Aug 2025, 17:27
I think this shit only starts when a certain threshold (usage) is exceeded. It's been really fine for the last few days, and suddenly it's worse than it has been in weeks. I'd gladly throw the PC out the window.
For me everything like started slowly but back then i could already too notice the differences and already at Day times or at Weekends. Like at Rush Hour and mid day it was some worse experience than as example at very late night or early mornings with the hitreg...But i just ignored this back then and still could enjoy playing...It was fine for me and i could life with that.


And today its just like 24/7 worst of the worst experience and dont matter more at what Hour and Day i join and play...and tried already many things here since that and to somehow solve this or make atleast some better and playable and just for some Hours stable or lets call it "Consistent" this word more fits and better describes it...:cry:


I think and believe i have it much worse than even you and some others and in such "problem" areas and with such problems about hitreg or desync feel... :lol:


Oder auf Deutsch...Ich hab so richtig die Arschkarte mit diesem Problem gezogen und die Lotterie gewonnen hier...:lol:

Edit:
The worst is that this Problem started for me in a Game which has nothing to do at all with Valorant or CSGO or CS2 and others very popular till Today...
And i only after noticed that this shit ruining me even in other Games with the exact same Patterns and Issue...

Like some People have it and experience only at one or two Game those problems and in others dont and feel very fine but here I have it in just all Games and even very old ones like Call of Duty 2 or 4 where some People still play and Servers exist...

Even fucking CS1.6 feels very wrong here about hitreg and not more that what I remember how it was in the good old days...

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Re: No FPS gaming possible

Post by pracc » 30 Aug 2025, 06:34

themagic wrote:
29 Aug 2025, 16:46
What means this "fast" near Latenz ? has it something to do with fastpath and means interleaving off ? or has nothing to do at all with that ?

Cause i remember that it was written "fast" somewhere back in the days too here but now it shows like 8ms 10ms near Latenz and not more "fast"

Image

You have VDSL Not Docsis and Fast means no Interleaving while 5-8-20 Ms ( whatever ) means you have Interleaving in youre line = Bad

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Re: No FPS gaming possible

Post by themagic » 30 Aug 2025, 06:39

pracc wrote:
30 Aug 2025, 06:34

You have VDSL Not Docsis and Fast means no Interleaving while 5-8-20 Ms ( whatever ) means you have Interleaving in youre line = Bad
Not my Screenshot... :)

I just used it as example.

Im still stuck with ADSL2+ Annex J here in my Area but on different mobile provider Internet that i tested...exact same experience in Online Gaming like with this ADSL2+ connect...so does not matter.

But thanks for tell and help what this "fast" means...now I know.

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Re: No FPS gaming possible

Post by pracc » 30 Aug 2025, 06:45

dervu wrote:
30 Aug 2025, 05:11
To confirm you have batching:
https://pastebin.com/FgE8LSmM
Any of that should be visible in wireshark if you plot it.
What are the chances that this technology will be used in a new GPON segment (32 or 64 split)? I can hardly imagine it due to the high capacity.

I saw Docsis segments with over 900 users and an downstream of 2.5Gbit and upstream of 200Mbit. Logically, something like this has to run to ensure stability

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Re: No FPS gaming possible

Post by themagic » 30 Aug 2025, 06:54

Another Question...

Is 30 Ping to Frankfurt normal with Interleaving ON and my ADSL2+ connect ? Cause I read that Interleaving like should makes Latency worse and higher...

And on my O2 mobile internet I even saw sometime and had 25 stable Ping to Frankfurt and in Valorant...:lol:


But experience there and there worst of the worst...

Here what Ai says:

Downsides of Interleaving
Increased Latency:
The process of breaking up and reassembling data adds a slight delay, or latency, to your connection. This extra delay is often around 40 milliseconds.


So in Theory i should have much higher Ping to Servers with such extra delay and if understand it right ?...

But all Games show very stable 30ms and better but a delay is clearly there and bad hitreg and desync feel and all issues haha...


How they manage to do that ? Or i understand it all wrong ?


Edit: Like there many Players who tell that the low Ping they have and see Ingame are has nothing to do with what they feel and experience and even here on Blurbusters there many who told that before about this feel...like 20ms feels like +100ms and so on example...


Im living 277 km away from Frankfurt...If that Information matters. But just only want know and interesting if such low Ping and with Interleaving are normal to Servers...

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Re: No FPS gaming possible

Post by LaggyTyp » 30 Aug 2025, 09:54

The distance between me and the center of Frankfurt am Main (Google Maps) is 190 km.

Docsis = 12ms
VDSL = 5-6ms

Docsis + HPET = 5-8ms (Why ever!?!?!?)

I'm absolutely certain it's the technology behind the scenes. That's why the ISP can never find a problem.

Beyond a certain load, the system starts changing something, which causes massive damage to real-time applications. This is probably why the latency increases slightly (from 12ms to ~15 to 20ms).

Because I was so fed up with it, I didn't change any more system parameters, and it ran perfectly fine for several days. Since yesterday afternoon, it's been unplayable. I changed NOTHING. No parameters, no options, no restart of the computer, no restart of the router. From one second to the next, it was junk.

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Re: No FPS gaming possible

Post by themagic » 30 Aug 2025, 12:27

Docsis + HPET what you mean by that ? If you enable HPET in windows/bios ? then your Ping gets even better ? :lol:

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Re: No FPS gaming possible

Post by LaggyTyp » 30 Aug 2025, 12:53

Yes...

bcdedit /set useplatformtick yes

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Re: No FPS gaming possible

Post by themagic » 30 Aug 2025, 13:05

I can tell some little short Story more about me...

I moved from Village to like little Town (Stadt) here and not so far away from that Village where i lived once.


But in that Village I like never had no problems at all with Hitreg back in the old days and with Online Gaming at all and my Ping was always like 60 and 70+ around there to closest Servers.

I had still there ADSL and only max DSL 6000 Speeds was aviable back then but i dont remember more what exact ADSL Tech was used but i know that I need to use a Splitter still there.
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