EMI Meter Interesting Readings
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- Roxtar
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EMI Meter Interesting Readings
Hi y'all, so today arrived an EMI meter and an EMI "filter" and the readings are quite interesting and revealing. For reference, I read somewhere that the ideal reads should be below 50mV.
Meter plugged to the outlet: 120-130mV
Meter plugged to the outlet with Filter also plugged: 110-130mV (looks like it doesn't do much)
Now here comes the interesting part:
Meter plugged to the outlet WITH PC ON: 1400-1500mV
Meter plugged to the outlet with Filter also plugged WITH PC ON: 1000-1100mV (looks like it filters when the interference in the electricity is too big)
This is quite revealing and it would pretty much explain why I have input lag, what I still don't know is why my PC is messing up so much with the electricity, faulty component? Who knows...
PC OFF READINGS VIDEO
https://youtube.com/shorts/ZJII4wrpNWg?feature=share
PC ON READINGS VIDEO
https://youtube.com/shorts/6iM_4UYzyqY?feature=share
Meter plugged to the outlet: 120-130mV
Meter plugged to the outlet with Filter also plugged: 110-130mV (looks like it doesn't do much)
Now here comes the interesting part:
Meter plugged to the outlet WITH PC ON: 1400-1500mV
Meter plugged to the outlet with Filter also plugged WITH PC ON: 1000-1100mV (looks like it filters when the interference in the electricity is too big)
This is quite revealing and it would pretty much explain why I have input lag, what I still don't know is why my PC is messing up so much with the electricity, faulty component? Who knows...
PC OFF READINGS VIDEO
https://youtube.com/shorts/ZJII4wrpNWg?feature=share
PC ON READINGS VIDEO
https://youtube.com/shorts/6iM_4UYzyqY?feature=share
- Slender
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Re: EMI Meter Interesting Readings
I reached 100-125 mV with the PC on. There was absolutely no difference between 1850 and 100-125 mV. In any case, this could indicate a problem. But honestly, I don't think this is the problem. What is the frequency range of your tester?
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ablemor
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Re: EMI Meter Interesting Readings
You do know that the EMI filter measures only within a certain frequency range, right? So this isnβt the full picture, but for example from 25 kHz to 100 MHz, or something like that.
- Roxtar
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Re: EMI Meter Interesting Readings
How did you get it to 100.125 mV with PC on? Filters? Also my meter rannge is 10KHz - 10MHz
- Roxtar
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- Slender
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Re: EMI Meter Interesting Readings
that was a psu what not emit in AC. (it was aerocool 650w, i dont remember model).
+ using a toroidal transformer.
What I noticed:
1) When psu is inserted into the ac network (switch button on, but not power on), the mv value may be lower (the psu cleans the ac line).
2) If you insert a filter with the reverse side between the transformer and psu (that is, swap line and out), the mv on the tester becomes smaller when the PC is turned on. If you set the filter correctly line-out, the mv on the tester will not decrease, as well as there will be no improvements on the screen.
- Slender
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Re: EMI Meter Interesting Readings
hes mean problem can be placed in different frequency, that is, not in the range that your tester shows.
my tester shows 10khz-10mhz, and no improvements, when it 1850 or 100. I mean, exept what im write about cheap emi filters reverse mode.
- Roxtar
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Re: EMI Meter Interesting Readings
I see, that's quite interesting as well, but still, ideal value should be below 50mV, videos in YouTube showed people going from 100mV+ to 20mV and I think that's where improvements will show, let's say anything above 100mV is bad and any mV decrease above that mark is unnoticeable.Slender wrote: β07 Jan 2026, 15:26that was a psu what not emit in AC. (it was aerocool 650w, i dont remember model).
+ using a toroidal transformer.
What I noticed:
1) When psu is inserted into the ac network (switch button on, but not power on), the mv value may be lower (the psu cleans the ac line).
2) If you insert a filter with the reverse side between the transformer and psu (that is, swap line and out), the mv on the tester becomes smaller when the PC is turned on. If you set the filter correctly line-out, the mv on the tester will not decrease, as well as there will be no improvements on the screen.
- Slender
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Re: EMI Meter Interesting Readings
well, I think the jump from 1850 to 100 should give at least 5% improvement, but it didn't happen. By the way, the UPS of the inverter gives 1600mv, while the sound noise is quieter than from the same ac 1650mv network.Roxtar wrote: β07 Jan 2026, 16:50I see, that's quite interesting as well, but still, ideal value should be below 50mV, videos in YouTube showed people going from 100mV+ to 20mV and I think that's where improvements will show, let's say anything above 100mV is bad and any mV decrease above that mark is unnoticeable.Slender wrote: β07 Jan 2026, 15:26that was a psu what not emit in AC. (it was aerocool 650w, i dont remember model).
+ using a toroidal transformer.
What I noticed:
1) When psu is inserted into the ac network (switch button on, but not power on), the mv value may be lower (the psu cleans the ac line).
2) If you insert a filter with the reverse side between the transformer and psu (that is, swap line and out), the mv on the tester becomes smaller when the PC is turned on. If you set the filter correctly line-out, the mv on the tester will not decrease, as well as there will be no improvements on the screen.
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ablemor
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Re: EMI Meter Interesting Readings
The frequency range is important because if the measurement shows low EMI in that range, then the problem is not in that frequency. Otherwise, the issues are likely to occur above 1 GHz.
