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lyar
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by lyar » 01 Mar 2026, 23:19
Slender wrote: ↑01 Mar 2026, 22:41
lyar wrote: ↑01 Mar 2026, 22:33
Slender wrote: ↑01 Mar 2026, 21:59
lyar wrote: ↑01 Mar 2026, 21:02
>it’s not this specific thing
>Now why would I tell you what it really is?
I don't understand how you want to solve the problem without knowing basic things?
You've got your nose in the socket, I pointed it out to you, now it's up to you.
clearly you haven't solved this phenomenon otherwise you wouldn't log on and post every day
you right, im not find source of it, and that is a reason why im log every day, but at least I know that it has nothing to do with the socet and it can't be fixed with a UPS. You all just waste time.
You think that there is something that you can insert between the socket and the PC and it will help, but this is impossible, because it does not work that way, and you will understand this as soon as you study what an electromagnetic field is.
My contribution to this forum was my findings in game, in my house and my friend (living in the same city as me) making NA FPLC in 2023 on a 90% pure sine wave inverter
https://x.com/calamity852/status/159298 ... 19297?s=46
I talked to Russians on discord and they believe its mostly radiated EMI. I believe some of it is also conducted, if an off grid setup can provide relief. I have experienced my iPhones 144hz display behave and act way snappier while I am camping very far away from big cities so it's probably both
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astroasis
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by astroasis » 02 Mar 2026, 08:26
lyar wrote: ↑01 Mar 2026, 23:19
Slender wrote: ↑01 Mar 2026, 22:41
lyar wrote: ↑01 Mar 2026, 22:33
Slender wrote: ↑01 Mar 2026, 21:59
I don't understand how you want to solve the problem without knowing basic things?
You've got your nose in the socket, I pointed it out to you, now it's up to you.
clearly you haven't solved this phenomenon otherwise you wouldn't log on and post every day
you right, im not find source of it, and that is a reason why im log every day, but at least I know that it has nothing to do with the socet and it can't be fixed with a UPS. You all just waste time.
You think that there is something that you can insert between the socket and the PC and it will help, but this is impossible, because it does not work that way, and you will understand this as soon as you study what an electromagnetic field is.
My contribution to this forum was my findings in game, in my house and my friend (living in the same city as me) making NA FPLC in 2023 on a 90% pure sine wave inverter
https://x.com/calamity852/status/159298 ... 19297?s=46
I talked to Russians on discord and they believe its mostly radiated EMI. I believe some of it is also conducted, if an off grid setup can provide relief. I have experienced my iPhones 144hz display behave and act way snappier while I am camping very far away from big cities so it's probably both
yes my phones refresh rate smoothness seems to change and get better whenever my pc decides to have a good day/few days. it does feel like some type of radiated interference
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Cosmostraveler
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by Cosmostraveler » 03 Mar 2026, 02:44
astroasis wrote: ↑02 Mar 2026, 08:26
lyar wrote: ↑01 Mar 2026, 23:19
Slender wrote: ↑01 Mar 2026, 22:41
lyar wrote: ↑01 Mar 2026, 22:33
clearly you haven't solved this phenomenon otherwise you wouldn't log on and post every day
you right, im not find source of it, and that is a reason why im log every day, but at least I know that it has nothing to do with the socet and it can't be fixed with a UPS. You all just waste time.
You think that there is something that you can insert between the socket and the PC and it will help, but this is impossible, because it does not work that way, and you will understand this as soon as you study what an electromagnetic field is.
My contribution to this forum was my findings in game, in my house and my friend (living in the same city as me) making NA FPLC in 2023 on a 90% pure sine wave inverter
https://x.com/calamity852/status/159298 ... 19297?s=46
I talked to Russians on discord and they believe its mostly radiated EMI. I believe some of it is also conducted, if an off grid setup can provide relief. I have experienced my iPhones 144hz display behave and act way snappier while I am camping very far away from big cities so it's probably both
yes my phones refresh rate smoothness seems to change and get better whenever my pc decides to have a good day/few days. it does feel like some type of radiated interference
Same
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lyar
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by lyar » 06 Mar 2026, 14:59
My game feels very good and very consistent on the Double Conversion UPS with the inverter enabled, so it is fully online and not referencing grid sine wave.
The UPS I purchased was the
V7 1500VA/1300W Online Double Conversion 2U Rack/Tower UPS 120V
I also purchased a Tripp Lite IS1000HG Isolation Transformer and that on its own (pc not connected to UPS) definitely helped but no where near as much as the Online Double Conversion UPS on it's own did.
tried both the Isolation Transformer & Online UPS connected together, and it did not feel very good compared to either one used alone
Wall>UPS>Isolation Transformer>PC
if I could rank it in terms of playability
#1 Online UPS alone : Wall>UPS>PC
#2 Isolation Transformer alone : Wall>Isolation Transformer>PC
#3 Isolation Transformer and Online UPS connected together : Wall>UPS>Isoloation Transformer> PC
i think a good online double conversion UPS is sufficient to play games without moving
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lyar
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by lyar » 06 Mar 2026, 15:15
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dervu
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by dervu » 06 Mar 2026, 17:53
lyar wrote: ↑06 Mar 2026, 14:59
My game feels very good and very consistent on the Double Conversion UPS with the inverter
enabled, so it is
fully online and not referencing grid sine wave.
The UPS I purchased was the
V7 1500VA/1300W Online Double Conversion 2U Rack/Tower UPS 120V
I also purchased a
Tripp Lite IS1000HG Isolation Transformer and that on its own (pc not connected to UPS) definitely helped but no where near as much as the Online Double Conversion UPS on it's own did.
tried both the Isolation Transformer & Online UPS connected together, and it did not feel very good compared to either one used alone
Wall>UPS>Isolation Transformer>PC
if I could rank it in terms of playability
#1 Online UPS alone : Wall>UPS>PC
#2 Isolation Transformer alone : Wall>Isolation Transformer>PC
#3 Isolation Transformer and Online UPS connected together : Wall>UPS>Isoloation Transformer> PC
i think a good online double conversion UPS is sufficient to play games without moving
Not in every case. I had clearly visible glitching timers in CPU-Z while on UPS unless it was disconnected from socket.
Ryzen 7950X3D / MSI GeForce RTX 4090 Gaming X Trio / ASUS TUF GAMING X670E-PLUS / 2x16GB DDR5@6000 G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB / Dell Alienware AW3225QF / Logitech G PRO X2 SUPERSTRIKE / SkyPAD Glass 3.0 / Wooting 60HE / DT 700 PRO X || EMI Input lag issue survivor (source removed)
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lyar
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by lyar » 06 Mar 2026, 21:04
dervu wrote: ↑06 Mar 2026, 17:53
lyar wrote: ↑06 Mar 2026, 14:59
My game feels very good and very consistent on the Double Conversion UPS with the inverter
enabled, so it is
fully online and not referencing grid sine wave.
The UPS I purchased was the
V7 1500VA/1300W Online Double Conversion 2U Rack/Tower UPS 120V
I also purchased a
Tripp Lite IS1000HG Isolation Transformer and that on its own (pc not connected to UPS) definitely helped but no where near as much as the Online Double Conversion UPS on it's own did.
tried both the Isolation Transformer & Online UPS connected together, and it did not feel very good compared to either one used alone
Wall>UPS>Isolation Transformer>PC
if I could rank it in terms of playability
#1 Online UPS alone : Wall>UPS>PC
#2 Isolation Transformer alone : Wall>Isolation Transformer>PC
#3 Isolation Transformer and Online UPS connected together : Wall>UPS>Isoloation Transformer> PC
i think a good online double conversion UPS is sufficient to play games without moving
Not in every case. I had clearly visible glitching timers in CPU-Z while on UPS unless it was disconnected from socket.
I realized an hour ago there was a setting on the UPS to allow an Isolation Transformer to be properly used as an extension, and it massively improved my game. So I'd have to rank it above "Online UPS alone". After more testing of the UPS alone, it was not as good of a result as using both Isolation transforrmer and UPS together connected to my computer with the correct setting turned on.
Wall>UPS>Monitor --- monitor connected to UPS
UPS>IsoTrans>PC --- PC connected to transformer
https://www.v7world.com/us/mwdownloads/ ... nk/id/1694
"unless it was disconnected from socket"
Do you realize what a
double conversion UPS is? It's a minimum $1000 device. It generates it's own sine wave, charges it's battery and runs off the inverter at the same time constantly. It's a completely distinct sine wave then what the grid generates. Compared to a "line interactive ups" that
only runs off its endogenous inverter & battery when its unplugged.
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dervu
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by dervu » 07 Mar 2026, 06:26
lyar wrote: ↑06 Mar 2026, 21:04
dervu wrote: ↑06 Mar 2026, 17:53
lyar wrote: ↑06 Mar 2026, 14:59
My game feels very good and very consistent on the Double Conversion UPS with the inverter
enabled, so it is
fully online and not referencing grid sine wave.
The UPS I purchased was the
V7 1500VA/1300W Online Double Conversion 2U Rack/Tower UPS 120V
I also purchased a
Tripp Lite IS1000HG Isolation Transformer and that on its own (pc not connected to UPS) definitely helped but no where near as much as the Online Double Conversion UPS on it's own did.
tried both the Isolation Transformer & Online UPS connected together, and it did not feel very good compared to either one used alone
Wall>UPS>Isolation Transformer>PC
if I could rank it in terms of playability
#1 Online UPS alone : Wall>UPS>PC
#2 Isolation Transformer alone : Wall>Isolation Transformer>PC
#3 Isolation Transformer and Online UPS connected together : Wall>UPS>Isoloation Transformer> PC
i think a good online double conversion UPS is sufficient to play games without moving
Not in every case. I had clearly visible glitching timers in CPU-Z while on UPS unless it was disconnected from socket.
I realized an hour ago there was a setting on the UPS to allow an Isolation Transformer to be properly used as an extension, and it massively improved my game. So I'd have to rank it above "Online UPS alone". After more testing of the UPS alone, it was not as good of a result as using both Isolation transforrmer and UPS together connected to my computer with the correct setting turned on.
Wall>UPS>Monitor --- monitor connected to UPS
UPS>IsoTrans>PC --- PC connected to transformer
https://www.v7world.com/us/mwdownloads/ ... nk/id/1694
"unless it was disconnected from socket"
Do you realize what a
double conversion UPS is? It's a minimum $1000 device. It generates it's own sine wave, charges it's battery and runs off the inverter at the same time constantly. It's a completely distinct sine wave then what the grid generates. Compared to a "line interactive ups" that
only runs off its endogenous inverter & battery when its unplugged.
Sure, but your ground wire is still connected. I have been there already with all those combinations of hardware. Depending on how severe your problem is, it might just take some time to reappear. It can be really a b**** to isolate from this crap.
Ryzen 7950X3D / MSI GeForce RTX 4090 Gaming X Trio / ASUS TUF GAMING X670E-PLUS / 2x16GB DDR5@6000 G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB / Dell Alienware AW3225QF / Logitech G PRO X2 SUPERSTRIKE / SkyPAD Glass 3.0 / Wooting 60HE / DT 700 PRO X || EMI Input lag issue survivor (source removed)
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astroasis
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by astroasis » 07 Mar 2026, 08:04
dervu wrote: ↑07 Mar 2026, 06:26
lyar wrote: ↑06 Mar 2026, 21:04
dervu wrote: ↑06 Mar 2026, 17:53
lyar wrote: ↑06 Mar 2026, 14:59
My game feels very good and very consistent on the Double Conversion UPS with the inverter
enabled, so it is
fully online and not referencing grid sine wave.
The UPS I purchased was the
V7 1500VA/1300W Online Double Conversion 2U Rack/Tower UPS 120V
I also purchased a
Tripp Lite IS1000HG Isolation Transformer and that on its own (pc not connected to UPS) definitely helped but no where near as much as the Online Double Conversion UPS on it's own did.
tried both the Isolation Transformer & Online UPS connected together, and it did not feel very good compared to either one used alone
Wall>UPS>Isolation Transformer>PC
if I could rank it in terms of playability
#1 Online UPS alone : Wall>UPS>PC
#2 Isolation Transformer alone : Wall>Isolation Transformer>PC
#3 Isolation Transformer and Online UPS connected together : Wall>UPS>Isoloation Transformer> PC
i think a good online double conversion UPS is sufficient to play games without moving
Not in every case. I had clearly visible glitching timers in CPU-Z while on UPS unless it was disconnected from socket.
I realized an hour ago there was a setting on the UPS to allow an Isolation Transformer to be properly used as an extension, and it massively improved my game. So I'd have to rank it above "Online UPS alone". After more testing of the UPS alone, it was not as good of a result as using both Isolation transforrmer and UPS together connected to my computer with the correct setting turned on.
Wall>UPS>Monitor --- monitor connected to UPS
UPS>IsoTrans>PC --- PC connected to transformer
https://www.v7world.com/us/mwdownloads/ ... nk/id/1694
"unless it was disconnected from socket"
Do you realize what a
double conversion UPS is? It's a minimum $1000 device. It generates it's own sine wave, charges it's battery and runs off the inverter at the same time constantly. It's a completely distinct sine wave then what the grid generates. Compared to a "line interactive ups" that
only runs off its endogenous inverter & battery when its unplugged.
Sure, but your ground wire is still connected. I have been there already with all those combinations of hardware. Depending on how severe your problem is, it might just take some time to reappear. It can be really a b**** to isolate from this crap.
part of me wants to buy an expensive online ups but i think just saving money and trying to move to a different city is a better choice. I know for a fact the micromovements and animations you need in games like cs2 just wont be there even with the ups