Has anyone tried to tweak hidden BIOS and Windows power settings to fix desync and input lag?

[TanvirPlayz]

I’ve seen countless forum threads discussing EMI, EMF, and RFI as the culprits for desync, but almost no one seems to be talking about tweaking hidden BIOS and Windows power settings. In my opinion, this could actually be the key to fixing the issue.

I recently watched a YouTube video by Savitarax titled, "THIS WILL DRAMATICALLY REDUCE YOUR LATENCY!" The tweaks suggested there definitely helped lower my latency, but unfortunately, the desync remains.

My theory is that if we dig deeper into these hidden settings, we might find a permanent fix for desync. There are so many hidden parameters that just need to be brought to the surface. I’m experimenting with different configurations myself, but I’m not an expert. I would love to see someone with deep technical knowledge dive into this and test it properly.

On a related note, what about mobile gaming? We see similar desync issues there as well, sometimes even in offline games. Could it be related?

I haven't done exhaustive research to see if someone has already covered this specific angle, so please correct me if I'm wrong or late to the party.

Apologies if my English isn't perfect!

[Apexer15]

I have already missed with many settings in the bios (But not all of them) because I'm not an expert too like you, I'm just desperately assuming and testing stuff. Each time I see a topic or a post here or on reddit.. Etc I apply it on my handheld's bios if I found the option available: Global C-state, ram timings, Xhci hands off, XMP, Power / voltages related settings, USB stuff (setting USB 3 / 4 to 2), but still no good. FYI the issue occurs on console too PS5 to be specific and that doesn't have a bios so idk if the bios the culprit but still could be.

[soul4kills]

The only times I experienced desync was because it was router related or game settings related. For games turn off any feature that generates fake frames to give you a higher frame rate. For the router, turn off any feature that is considered "management frames" as they make the router do a bunch of work before actually sending out your packets. QOS is considered management frames. Although it may seem like a good feature to prioritize traffic, but depending on how well its implemented it could slow down your traffic because it has to inspect every packet before it gets sent to the internet. Do a google search on what "management frames" are but the gist of it is any feature that needs to inspect a packet to see what it is has to do to it before it is sent out. The best trick on the router to improve traffic and reduce buffer bloat is to limit your up/dl bandwidth by 90% of it's capability. That way it will never be in a situation where your bandwidth is maxed out.

I don't remember any other feature or setting that helped with desync other than that. I am also curious what people consider desync?

And I don't believe the EMI stuff. I think EMI only manifests itself as an issue when the machine itself already has latency issues. If a machine doesn't have latency issues, then EMI won't manifest istelf as a problem. I live a quarter a mile away from really huge power lines, it's not the ones that carry power through neighborhoods either, it's the huge ones that carry it state to state.

[TanvirPlayz]

The only times I experienced desync was because it was router related or game settings related. For games turn off any feature that generates fake frames to give you a higher frame rate. For the router, turn off any feature that is considered "management frames" as they make the router do a bunch of work before actually sending out your packets. QOS is considered management frames. Although it may seem like a good feature to prioritize traffic, but depending on how well its implemented it could slow down your traffic because it has to inspect every packet before it gets sent to the internet. Do a google search on what "management frames" are but the gist of it is any feature that needs to inspect a packet to see what it is has to do to it before it is sent out. The best trick on the router to improve traffic and reduce buffer bloat is to limit your up/dl bandwidth by 90% of it's capability. That way it will never be in a situation where your bandwidth is maxed out.

I don't remember any other feature or setting that helped with desync other than that. I am also curious what people consider desync?

And I don't believe the EMI stuff. I think EMI only manifests itself as an issue when the machine itself already has latency issues. If a machine doesn't have latency issues, then EMI won't manifest istelf as a problem. I live a quarter a mile away from really huge power lines, it's not the ones that carry power through neighborhoods either, it's the huge ones that carry it state to state.

Then why does it happen in offline games if it’s a router-related issue?

[nickchraj]

HEHE are you new bro? i think everyone here tried every possible BIOS tweak 10x times. none of it matters

[soul4kills]

Then why does it happen in offline games if it’s a router-related issue?

Then it wouldn't be desync now would it. That would be considered input latency.

[Hyote]

Many people say hardware is the most important factor which is partially true. I would urge everyone to prorerly set up all the BIOS settings because they leave so much garbage on in the hidden options, it's unreal. With that said I'm going to state the importance of Windows again. Everyone with a floaty, sluggish mouse feel has a sub-optimal operating system. Linux will probably never catch up in latency so Windows is your best bet. I'm not going to advertise my own but all the available free versions don't offer almost anything over stock. I can't prove that it's fully true either but you should look at things like ctfmon.vercel.app and decide for yourself if you want something better. Personally, I've been input lag free for a very long time and haven't experienced desync other than the games' netcode I play. So I think you can have any kind of a hardware configuration but can't use anything other that Windows 10 or 11 which both need a lot of changes to be made into what they are supposed to be for gaming. Tl;dr: do everything you can, don't leave out any settings if possible, the effects stack up.

[qbBA]

I’ve seen countless forum threads discussing EMI, EMF, and RFI as the culprits for desync, but almost no one seems to be talking about tweaking hidden BIOS and Windows power settings. In my opinion, this could actually be the key to fixing the issue.

I recently watched a YouTube video by Savitarax titled, "THIS WILL DRAMATICALLY REDUCE YOUR LATENCY!" The tweaks suggested there definitely helped lower my latency, but unfortunately, the desync remains.

My theory is that if we dig deeper into these hidden settings, we might find a permanent fix for desync. There are so many hidden parameters that just need to be brought to the surface. I’m experimenting with different configurations myself, but I’m not an expert. I would love to see someone with deep technical knowledge dive into this and test it properly.

On a related note, what about mobile gaming? We see similar desync issues there as well, sometimes even in offline games. Could it be related?

I haven't done exhaustive research to see if someone has already covered this specific angle, so please correct me if I'm wrong or late to the party.

Apologies if my English isn't perfect!

There is such a program SCEWIN (I warn you, after you do the export and import and apply, you will have about 1 month of BIOS operation, since after the board is checked, it is checked on the z790 aorus elite + board, the board is checked for a month, even if you change xmp in the settings, which is not critical in changing the bios settings, you will have to reinstall official bios if you do not have a BIOS flashback via a USB flash drive, it is better not to go here.

And so much has been tried, all the settings from the guru on YouTube or wherever else you can find on the Internet, I'm sorry, I won't post screenshots with settings, since half of them broke the bios, and I'm too lazy to sort out which ones work and which ones don't, and it's not advisable since everyone has a different bios and everyone will be sitting sorting?not worth

many settings that you do not have available will become available, like the spread spectrum, which I do not have in the usual bios entry, but the program shows that it is there, you can disable it and set 15% 30% 100% by this analogy, if you turn off everything that the gurus say, adjusters for 30 bucks will not change anything, I would say it will become very unusual and inconvenient to play where you are calmly flicking, you will be surprised how difficult it will become for you to flip since it will not work correctly ,tested not only by me but also by many other players, 2500ello and above was even 3500 by the fan, I decided to check how everyone's cd is sharp The improvement is 1 hour or 2 hours, after a severe deterioration, and it will be like this until you reset the settings to the standard or set up as it was before.

this is very similar to what you would do in a normal BIOS setup, change gear or volts or the voltage curve to high, or set the system up from a guru for 1 or 2 hours of normal play after it gets worse.

think for yourself, decide for yourself whether to spend a huge amount of time on this or not, for me, xmp, gear 1, disabling E core and C-state give more by the standard than the settings in this program will offer you.
There are also many settings that add problems to you like resize bar and 4g decoding off. they are designed to increase the bandwidth, and in fact the micro-lenses that you will clearly see.

[Mr1991]

Many people say hardware is the most important factor which is partially true. I would urge everyone to prorerly set up all the BIOS settings because they leave so much garbage on in the hidden options, it's unreal. With that said I'm going to state the importance of Windows again. Everyone with a floaty, sluggish mouse feel has a sub-optimal operating system. Linux will probably never catch up in latency so Windows is your best bet. I'm not going to advertise my own but all the available free versions don't offer almost anything over stock. I can't prove that it's fully true either but you should look at things like ctfmon.vercel.app and decide for yourself if you want something better. Personally, I've been input lag free for a very long time and haven't experienced desync other than the games' netcode I play. So I think you can have any kind of a hardware configuration but can't use anything other that Windows 10 or 11 which both need a lot of changes to be made into what they are supposed to be for gaming. Tl;dr: do everything you can, don't leave out any settings if possible, the effects stack up.

How do you fair with gaming/everyday use? I haven’t done the typical windows stripping for along time because I found you just end up with so many compatibility issues it just wasn’t worth it

I think the hidden bios settings is 100% worth exploring, can be extremely lengthy and takes a lot of time looking into each variable though

Really need to do a dual boot with a throwaway install

[Hyote]

Many people say hardware is the most important factor which is partially true. I would urge everyone to prorerly set up all the BIOS settings because they leave so much garbage on in the hidden options, it's unreal. With that said I'm going to state the importance of Windows again. Everyone with a floaty, sluggish mouse feel has a sub-optimal operating system. Linux will probably never catch up in latency so Windows is your best bet. I'm not going to advertise my own but all the available free versions don't offer almost anything over stock. I can't prove that it's fully true either but you should look at things like ctfmon.vercel.app and decide for yourself if you want something better. Personally, I've been input lag free for a very long time and haven't experienced desync other than the games' netcode I play. So I think you can have any kind of a hardware configuration but can't use anything other that Windows 10 or 11 which both need a lot of changes to be made into what they are supposed to be for gaming. Tl;dr: do everything you can, don't leave out any settings if possible, the effects stack up.

How do you fair with gaming/everyday use? I haven’t done the typical windows stripping for along time because I found you just end up with so many compatibility issues it just wasn’t worth it

I think the hidden bios settings is 100% worth exploring, can be extremely lengthy and takes a lot of time looking into each variable though

Really need to do a dual boot with a throwaway install

You can check my YT: https://www.youtube.com/@hyyote
The gaming videos are in sync with my tweaking timeline, so the latest video has my current tweaks. Aside from that I experience 0 input lag or sluggishness. My games also perform very well, usually above 300 fps just due to the process settings I have and I'm not even on my new PC which has a 9850X3D. And yes, if you want to achieve low latency, you have to sacrifice a lot of things, including some older games as well. But competitive titles work.