Input lag difference between platforms

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soul4kills
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Re: Input lag difference between platforms

Post by soul4kills » 30 May 2026, 21:09

disable preferred cores, use high performance mode. problem solved. you're welcome.

agendarsky
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Re: Input lag difference between platforms

Post by agendarsky » 30 May 2026, 21:28

jterri wrote:
30 May 2026, 20:55
agendarsky wrote:
30 May 2026, 19:50
jterri wrote:
30 May 2026, 19:21
zENNy wrote:
30 May 2026, 18:01


If the parts were damaged, then I shouldn’t have been able to play smoothly for 2–3 days, right? Everything was normal for 2–3 days, and then it got worse afterwards.
That most likely happened because when you moved, your equipment got exposed to the clean electricity of your house for a couple days and that clean electricity cleaned your components. But because your equipment already got damaged by the dirty electricity of your old house from either EMI/RFI or voltage fluctuation, your equipment has a hard time keeping a stable voltage causing the same issues that occurred at your old house to come back. When you were at your older house, you bought a new CPU that solved your input lag issue for 2-3 days meaning that the dirty electricity was causing a CPU issue that messed the rest of your setup up. When you bought your new CPU, that CPU hadn’t been exposed to dirty electricity yet causing everything to run smoothly but after a couple days dirty electricity slowly started hitting your CPU again bringing back your issues.
i've upgraded to 9800x3d and the problem is still there but much more better and stable. I've noticed disabling legacy usb on this platform is first time i see slightly better difference when changing this option. However the best thing i've did is tightening secondary timings , on-die termination and surprisngly not using onboard lan. : Intel 82580 Gigabit Network Connection pci-x with msi-x and i don't have the fucking sluggish slow movement when using this, which makes me wonder if this could be an actually driver issue with dma , since dma bus don't exist anymore (comparing to d875pbz which was the last board i didnt have problem on lol) every device is allowed to bus master. Also i'm waiting true ehci 2.0 usb card adapter altrough i would say i dont need it atm, but i've already ordered it.
Notice one thing , i've noticed it 5 years ago in cs:go , when you play warmup it's a lot smoother , hit registration is better, mouse input is better, once it goes live , the movement feels like it's decreased instantly and valve's vprofilite which is in-game fps benchmark running in backround that shows you avg and 1 % lows in console when game ends will start on, idk, maybe it's triggering sata driver which can lead to unstable increased dma requests?, obviously im not saying vproflite is the issue but could be the indicator that shows up a bug in driver when higher i/o activity is used . Also , recording a demo makes things a lot worse, also in cs 1.6.
And you jterri can u explain what is the term "Clean electricity?" , stop making up terms , electricity is not problem, it started literally instantly when i changed motherboard.
i believe we're simply dealing with race conditions on dma level
Everyone is dealing with different issues. Your issue looks like a CPU and Motherboard issue… not electricity, so you’re gonna have to figure that out on your own or get someone who is struggling with the same issue and help each other out.
But if my issue looks like "cpu and motherboard issue" and it carries across multiple many platforms since 2011 that means you have an electricity lag and also my lag. Pentium 4 first mobo change -> agp to pcie (d875pbz to p4i945gc ,first encounter with desync over time and huge input lag, instantly then i've got -> Amd Phenom 965 -> Intel 4460 - > 4690k -> 9700k -5800x3d - 7800x3d (immidiately refunded for lack of bios settings) - 14700k and current 9800x3d, all the time i've had either decent class motherboard or premium class like evga x570 or current asus x870 apex. You want to say i've been dealing with electricity issue? Right after i swap motherboard?. Also i've got on-line ups with no results even when running only on batteries.
Also about the monitor and motion clarity, yes that was the first thing i've noticed when first encountered this problem but this could be just issue wjth polling rate instability at the time , inconsistent sample intervals from the mouse itself can cause the crosshair to stutter irregularly even at high FPS, which makes the whole image feel broken. Btw i've discovered weird usb bug month ago when i still had an 14700k and it does same on my 9800x3d setup , the first thing you do when you boot is to go check your polling rate if it's reporting value you choosed because from time to time my deathadder 8khz runs on 1000 and very unstable , or 500 with drops to 300 or even 150 with drops to 100, i dont know why is this happening i've already updated my mouse firmware but it's still happening and to fix that i need to plug and replug mouse back to get my estimated polling rate back and it happens on both windows and linux, its maybe a driver issue or firmware handshake issue idk, but its good to check your polling rate from time to time.

Zwss98
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Re: Input lag difference between platforms

Post by Zwss98 » 30 May 2026, 21:47

Does any of you guys use microsoft account when he installed the system? Or at least used it once on your machine?

jterri
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Joined: 16 Aug 2025, 02:55

Re: Input lag difference between platforms

Post by jterri » 30 May 2026, 22:32

agendarsky wrote:
30 May 2026, 21:28
jterri wrote:
30 May 2026, 20:55
agendarsky wrote:
30 May 2026, 19:50
jterri wrote:
30 May 2026, 19:21


That most likely happened because when you moved, your equipment got exposed to the clean electricity of your house for a couple days and that clean electricity cleaned your components. But because your equipment already got damaged by the dirty electricity of your old house from either EMI/RFI or voltage fluctuation, your equipment has a hard time keeping a stable voltage causing the same issues that occurred at your old house to come back. When you were at your older house, you bought a new CPU that solved your input lag issue for 2-3 days meaning that the dirty electricity was causing a CPU issue that messed the rest of your setup up. When you bought your new CPU, that CPU hadn’t been exposed to dirty electricity yet causing everything to run smoothly but after a couple days dirty electricity slowly started hitting your CPU again bringing back your issues.
i've upgraded to 9800x3d and the problem is still there but much more better and stable. I've noticed disabling legacy usb on this platform is first time i see slightly better difference when changing this option. However the best thing i've did is tightening secondary timings , on-die termination and surprisngly not using onboard lan. : Intel 82580 Gigabit Network Connection pci-x with msi-x and i don't have the fucking sluggish slow movement when using this, which makes me wonder if this could be an actually driver issue with dma , since dma bus don't exist anymore (comparing to d875pbz which was the last board i didnt have problem on lol) every device is allowed to bus master. Also i'm waiting true ehci 2.0 usb card adapter altrough i would say i dont need it atm, but i've already ordered it.
Notice one thing , i've noticed it 5 years ago in cs:go , when you play warmup it's a lot smoother , hit registration is better, mouse input is better, once it goes live , the movement feels like it's decreased instantly and valve's vprofilite which is in-game fps benchmark running in backround that shows you avg and 1 % lows in console when game ends will start on, idk, maybe it's triggering sata driver which can lead to unstable increased dma requests?, obviously im not saying vproflite is the issue but could be the indicator that shows up a bug in driver when higher i/o activity is used . Also , recording a demo makes things a lot worse, also in cs 1.6.
And you jterri can u explain what is the term "Clean electricity?" , stop making up terms , electricity is not problem, it started literally instantly when i changed motherboard.
i believe we're simply dealing with race conditions on dma level
Everyone is dealing with different issues. Your issue looks like a CPU and Motherboard issue… not electricity, so you’re gonna have to figure that out on your own or get someone who is struggling with the same issue and help each other out.
But if my issue looks like "cpu and motherboard issue" and it carries across multiple many platforms since 2011 that means you have an electricity lag and also my lag. Pentium 4 first mobo change -> agp to pcie (d875pbz to p4i945gc ,first encounter with desync over time and huge input lag, instantly then i've got -> Amd Phenom 965 -> Intel 4460 - > 4690k -> 9700k -5800x3d - 7800x3d (immidiately refunded for lack of bios settings) - 14700k and current 9800x3d, all the time i've had either decent class motherboard or premium class like evga x570 or current asus x870 apex. You want to say i've been dealing with electricity issue? Right after i swap motherboard?. Also i've got on-line ups with no results even when running only on batteries.
Also about the monitor and motion clarity, yes that was the first thing i've noticed when first encountered this problem but this could be just issue wjth polling rate instability at the time , inconsistent sample intervals from the mouse itself can cause the crosshair to stutter irregularly even at high FPS, which makes the whole image feel broken. Btw i've discovered weird usb bug month ago when i still had an 14700k and it does same on my 9800x3d setup , the first thing you do when you boot is to go check your polling rate if it's reporting value you choosed because from time to time my deathadder 8khz runs on 1000 and very unstable , or 500 with drops to 300 or even 150 with drops to 100, i dont know why is this happening i've already updated my mouse firmware but it's still happening and to fix that i need to plug and replug mouse back to get my estimated polling rate back and it happens on both windows and linux, its maybe a driver issue or firmware handshake issue idk, but its good to check your polling rate from time to time.
You said you got a online UPS with no results. Did you try the UPS with a new CPU, Motherboard and even a new PSU or did u use the equipment you already had at the time?

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