Impossible to find a quality gaming monitor nowadays ?

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Re: Impossible to find a quality gaming monitor nowadays ?

Post by Rocky » 14 Apr 2015, 16:43

A few months later, still the same clouding issue on the OPs monitor aoc g2460pg, I got one this month and have an RMA number for the clouding.

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Re: Impossible to find a quality gaming monitor nowadays ?

Post by Jourgensen » 14 Apr 2015, 18:38

The ACER screen is better than the AOC, but the aoc looks better and have USB ports.
Since the AOC got the same screen as the Benq, its possible that one of the best monitor on the market is the acer gsync.

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Re: Impossible to find a quality gaming monitor nowadays ?

Post by szakh » 16 Apr 2015, 12:21

Got my Acer XB270HU 2 weeks ago... Got a lottttt of glow... Impossible do use it without going crazy even at 20% luminosity... Sent it back to RMA.

Now I have my RMA monitor, still a bit of glow, enough to feel bad for a 800$/€ screen, but I will keep it for now. At last I am lucky enough to not have no dead pixels like a lot of people... Acer did a real mess here, something like 80% defect monitors and the worst is that the only good monitors are allocated to review websites which means that Acer knew the issue... Last Acer stuff I ever bought...

So, without this glow issue the screen is nearly perfect, IPS at 144hz/1440p is really incredible and with GSync on top of that this is fabulous... but this is so annoying... Why is this still impossible to have something perfectly working even for 800$ ???

Hopefully LG will release a A-TW version of this panel before the end of the year... I will then resell my ACER and go for the LG !

Damn...

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Re: Impossible to find a quality gaming monitor nowadays ?

Post by Rocky » 16 Apr 2015, 13:38

szakh wrote:Why is this still impossible to have something perfectly working even for 800$ ???

Damn...
Agreed, for that price there should be no issues!

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Re: Impossible to find a quality gaming monitor nowadays ?

Post by Feels like butter » 17 Apr 2015, 17:29

szakh wrote:Why is this still impossible to have something perfectly working even for 800$ ???
If I'd known what an awful time it was going to be for monitors I would have stocked up on CRTs in 1999. Amazing that they've just dropped off the face of the earth. :shock:

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Re: Impossible to find a quality gaming monitor nowadays ?

Post by Oofloom » 21 Apr 2015, 19:34

Painful, indeed. Best I can tell edge-lit LCDs are hopeless if you want anywhere near CRT motion clarity and responsiveness: they're just not bright enough. I'm not holding my breath for array-backlit monitors (ala high end LCD TVs with local dimming).

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Re: Impossible to find a quality gaming monitor nowadays ?

Post by Jourgensen » 21 Apr 2015, 22:45

I had the AOC too, one dead pixel, then I bought the acer it was perfect and the colors are better. Yeah the quality is a problem even when you buy a rog swift, BUT, whats really piss me off, there ISNT no pc gaming monitors without blur during movements. The ACER gsync is one of the best in the market, its expensive, and its still blurring. Seriously we are in 2015 and I want to play without seeing 3 objects when I do some rapid movements ! My plasma TV can fix that so WTF there is no pc gaming monitors like this ?
I'm still not totally happy with my monitor, but there isnt better !

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Re: Impossible to find a quality gaming monitor nowadays ?

Post by Pirx » 22 Apr 2015, 04:03

Jourgensen wrote:there ISNT no pc gaming monitors without blur during movements. The ACER gsync is one of the best in the market, its expensive, and its still blurring. Seriously we are in 2015 and I want to play without seeing 3 objects when I do some rapid movements ! My plasma TV can fix that so WTF there is no pc gaming monitors like this ?
I'm still not totally happy with my monitor, but there isnt better !
as i'm interested in this acer xb270hu, but can't stand motion blur:

do you mean this monitor blurs in ULMB mode too? or does it blur in g-sync mode? see tftcentral's pursuit camera pics in ULMB mode, it looks about as sharp as the asus swift to me.

i'm torn between the rog swift and the acer. well probably i'll better wait until strobed IPS matures and samsung or LG comes out with something better...

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Re: Impossible to find a quality gaming monitor nowadays ?

Post by Jourgensen » 22 Apr 2015, 04:22

I find the ULMB useless, its better without, there is no overdrive in ULMB, in games I tested and it was bad, but I got the TN screen so it may be different. (I got the XB240H, and believe me its better than the AOC, wich have the same screen as the BENQ, so... the ACER is highly probably better than the BENQ).
Seriously I don't see why I should use the ULMB..its like its shaking or I don't know how to explain, maybe I did it wrong, I don't know, but I can't play anymore without gsync lol.
The only thing really bad with the ACER its the plastic, so terrible, the screen is reflecting inside the plastic because its glossy, and there is the fucking blue led that you must hide by inserting something, the monitor is poorly made, it not really worth the price when you look at this ugly plastic shell... but the screen itself is the better i've seen, maybe only the rog swift is better, I can confirm that the ACER got better colors than the AOC, even after hours of settings.

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Re: Impossible to find a quality gaming monitor nowadays ?

Post by Chief Blur Buster » 23 Apr 2015, 12:59

Jourgensen wrote:I find the ULMB useless, its better without, there is no overdrive in ULMB, in games I tested and it was bad, but I got the TN screen so it may be different. (I got the XB240H, and believe me its better than the AOC, wich have the same screen as the BENQ, so... the ACER is highly probably better than the BENQ).
Seriously I don't see why I should use the ULMB..its like its shaking or I don't know how to explain, maybe I did it wrong, I don't know, but I can't play anymore without gsync lol.
ULMB is not good for variable frame rates.
ULMB eliminates so much motion blur that it amplifies stutters.

ULMB looks best with all the following:
(A) Good 1000Hz mouse (why?)
(B) Game engines that run ultra-smoothly on current hardware (e.g. Source Engine)
(C) VSYNC ON
(D) Very fast GPU to keep up with frame-drop-free VSYNC ON.
(E) Constant framerate == refreshrate == stroberate

e.g. 85fps@85Hz or 100fps@100Hz.
That's the way to maximize motion blur elimination, without getting microstutters. Microstutter visibility is amplified by strobe technologies, so you need some brute force to mitigate the microstutters. GSYNC is great and far better than ULMB for low and variable framerates, but ULMB can look better than GSYNC for 'perfect frame-drop-free VSYNC ON' situations. This is the only way to get "TestUFO-smooth effect in video games", the CRT-style Nintendo Super Mario butter-smooth blur-free experience.
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