BENQ Zowie XL2746S Owners Thread

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Re: BENQ Zowie XL2746S/XL2546S Owners Thread

Post by pedrodd2 » 20 May 2020, 02:11

AddictFPS wrote:
19 May 2020, 11:09
I doubt image quality is good at fullscreen, because 1920 is not entire multiple of 1280, there are interpolation, and the blurring associed.

The only way to scale fullscreen non-blurry is using for instance 1920x1080 in 3840x2160, is 2x multiple, entire exact, if integer scaling algoritm is used, no blur at all, just like a native FHD screen.

You only can see 1280x720 perfect sharp like native in XL2746S if set 1:1 scaling, losing viewing area.

Read all this topic, FHD 182Hz strobed with VT tweak is recommended. Try it, if you need more speed, try 1280 240Hz 1:1 non strobed.

Nobody can say what is better for you, compare and choice by yourself.

Seems that scaler in Zowie monitors is very fast, low lag, well implemented, but try to avoid it, is another signal processing. I think allways add a bit of lag. But with 1:1, at least from GPU side, maybe not add any lag.
Manay thanks for your reply,1:1 is a good idea. I would try.

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Re: BENQ Zowie XL2746S/XL2546S Owners Thread

Post by AddictFPS » 20 May 2020, 06:37

Dirty Scrubz wrote:
19 May 2020, 16:55
The blurbuster app just changes what's already in the service menu (area/intensity) so it doesn't do anything special. I tweaked the service menu settings but the crosstalk was still very bad at 60-120 hz.
Thanks !

This result is not normal, i'm sure that this monitor under certain frequency 165Hz? 144? is forcing more that pure single strobe to compensate brightness loss, and can't be disabled. Double strobe like the 60Hz video you upload, or one full strobe and several low intensity "reverberation", is the only explanation i find to understand this good strobe result at 182Hz but bad at 120-100-60, where should be almost crosstalk free with dimmed screen, maybe useable settings in low lit room. Beyond single strobe no matter if brightness is normal, constant double images kill motion quality, is unbearable, at least for me.

If this is correct, none strobe tweak can fix the "base disaster" caused by more than pure single strobe.

I base this suspiction in the fact that XL2746S has a basic brightness backlight (Typ. brightness 320 cd/m2)‎, but "magicaly" can strobe at all frequencies maintaining high brightness +200. Strobe Algoritm ?

Hope TFTCentral, Rting or ApertureGrille review BenQ XL2746S and Viewsonic XG270, specialy ApertureGrille.com for its amazing deep review of strobe :shock: to see how backlight strobing is working at differents frequencies in both monitors. Surprise for sure ! XG270 is perfectly strobe and overdrive tuned, single strobe, at 75-240Hz range, under 75 double strobe locked by firmware by Viewsonic :( request to unlock it here viewtopic.php?f=4&t=6081

Maybe BenQ is using some type of algoritm like ASUS do with ELMB Sync, without the VRR mix part of course, but doing some repeating flashes to avoid low brightness at fixed frequencies under "X". Good results at ~+165Hz, disaster below. If this behavior can't be disabled in XL2746S, XG270 is much more versatile in strobing.

It would be a shame, this monitor can do better performance strobing. Hope BenQ launch firmware update to unlock single strobe at all fixed frequencies the monitor can work, and user can choice default DyAc+ settings, or custom each strobe setting by itself, with OSD settings.

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Re: BENQ Zowie XL2746S/XL2546S Owners Thread

Post by rasmas » 20 May 2020, 11:00

Maybe someone can know: what does "Fast liquid crystal" (ZOWIE XL2546S) means? is just marketing or is some kind of new technology or something else?

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Re: BENQ Zowie XL2746S/XL2546S Owners Thread

Post by Dirty Scrubz » 20 May 2020, 14:46

rasmas wrote:
20 May 2020, 11:00
Maybe someone can know: what does "Fast liquid crystal" (ZOWIE XL2546S) means? is just marketing or is some kind of new technology or something else?
Sounds like marketing.

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Re: BENQ Zowie XL2746S/XL2546S Owners Thread

Post by amezibra » 20 May 2020, 18:04

So I have a PG279Q (IPS) and also received the 27inch while waiting for the 2546s , I can tell that the XL2746S is more crisp than IPS in games even it being 1080p.

here is what i consider the best color setting for gaming :

DyAc: Premium
Black eQualizer: 0
Color Vibrance: 12
Low Blue Light: 0
Instant Mode: ON
Brightness: 100
Contrast: 37
Sharpness: 5
Gamma: 5
Color Temperature: User Define: 97 97 98
AMA: Premium
Display: Display port
Display Mode: Full.

Color are perfect for me with this settings.

For now the game I play can maintain 240 fps so I will stick to basic tweak.

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Re: BENQ Zowie XL2746S/XL2546S Owners Thread

Post by Wazzupi » 20 May 2020, 21:39

I've had the 2546s on pre-order since day 1, I own a LG 27GL63T-B and play competitive games cs pubg valorant, ips doesn't impress me, I would regret my purchase if it wasn't for paying only 120 bucks(Costco pricing error) I owned the Alienware 25inch 240hz monitor and wanted to try ips, i sold it for 225 bucks. But now I'm getting more serious about comp and it's lead me here(rabbit hole) I'm more confused than ever because this whole custom sweet spot with 182hz, just puts me a little off, if it's worth buying... or going for one of these new ips 240hz monitor with low input lag and fast enough g2g?

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Re: BENQ Zowie XL2746S/XL2546S Owners Thread

Post by Dirty Scrubz » 20 May 2020, 21:42

amezibra wrote:
20 May 2020, 18:04
So I have a PG279Q (IPS) and also received the 27inch while waiting for the 2546s , I can tell that the XL2746S is more crisp than IPS in games even it being 1080p.

here is what i consider the best color setting for gaming :

DyAc: Premium
Black eQualizer: 0
Color Vibrance: 12
Low Blue Light: 0
Instant Mode: ON
Brightness: 100
Contrast: 37
Sharpness: 5
Gamma: 5
Color Temperature: User Define: 97 97 98
AMA: Premium
Display: Display port
Display Mode: Full.

Color are perfect for me with this settings.

For now the game I play can maintain 240 fps so I will stick to basic tweak.
I keep contrast at 52 because it adds a bit more punch to colors and use black equalizer in games but not on the desktop (I have a gaming and desktop profile). But yeah, I've been saying it all along, this monitor almost looks as nice as a midrange IPS when properly tuned. Of course a 10 bit IPS/VA will still look better w/better angles but this thing is not bad at all.

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Re: BENQ Zowie XL2746S/XL2546S Owners Thread

Post by Dirty Scrubz » 20 May 2020, 21:44

Wazzupi wrote:
20 May 2020, 21:39
I've had the 2546s on pre-order since day 1, I own a LG 27GL63T-B and play competitive games cs pubg valorant, ips doesn't impress me, I would regret my purchase if it wasn't for paying only 120 bucks(Costco pricing error) I owned the Alienware 25inch 240hz monitor and wanted to try ips, i sold it for 225 bucks. But now I'm getting more serious about comp and it's lead me here(rabbit hole) I'm more confused than ever because this whole custom sweet spot with 182hz, just puts me a little off, if it's worth buying... or going for one of these new ips 240hz monitor with low input lag and fast enough g2g?
The custom 182 Hz DyAc is not required, I just did it for FPS sake. You can run this at 240 Hz and get the maximum benefit from input latency and smoothness. In fact, lately I've been running it at 240 Hz + DyAc after tweaking Warzone since I can often hit 200-240 fps while playing. I also bought a pair of Sennheiser HD 58X headphones to go w/this setup and man I'm in gaming heaven. What people don't usually understand with these BenQ's is that the strobe area is adjustable so you can tweak it to near perfection. Not many other displays on the market offer this level of flexibility and couple that w/the fact that this monitor actually gets brighter with BFI/DyAc active and it makes it extra unique (it gets extremely bright at 100% so if you're sensitive to that, I'd run it at a reduced brightness).

Quote from a Japanese review: http://blog.livedoor.jp/wisteriear/arch ... 95844.html
with DyAc + of "ZOWIE XL2746S" it is not fixed brightness but the same as the normal mode. The feature is that it can be adjusted freely from 0 to 100%, a maximum setting of 480 cd / m ^ 2 in the high setting, and a very bright screen display of 430 cd / m ^ 2 even in the premium setting that further reduces the afterimage.
In addition, you can manually tweak crosstalk using BlurBuster's BenQ utility instead of having to go into the service menu each time: https://blurbusters.com/benq/strobe-utility/

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Re: BENQ Zowie XL2746S/XL2546S Owners Thread

Post by rasmas » 21 May 2020, 06:13

Dirty Scrubz wrote:
20 May 2020, 14:46
rasmas wrote:
20 May 2020, 11:00
Maybe someone can know: what does "Fast liquid crystal" (ZOWIE XL2546S) means? is just marketing or is some kind of new technology or something else?
Sounds like marketing.
Makes sense, otherwise we would have heard big announcements about a new technology :D .

Thanks ;) .

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Re: BENQ Zowie XL2746S/XL2546S Owners Thread

Post by Wazzupi » 21 May 2020, 14:13

Dirty Scrubz wrote:
20 May 2020, 21:44
Wazzupi wrote:
20 May 2020, 21:39
I've had the 2546s on pre-order since day 1, I own a LG 27GL63T-B and play competitive games cs pubg valorant, ips doesn't impress me, I would regret my purchase if it wasn't for paying only 120 bucks(Costco pricing error) I owned the Alienware 25inch 240hz monitor and wanted to try ips, i sold it for 225 bucks. But now I'm getting more serious about comp and it's lead me here(rabbit hole) I'm more confused than ever because this whole custom sweet spot with 182hz, just puts me a little off, if it's worth buying... or going for one of these new ips 240hz monitor with low input lag and fast enough g2g?
The custom 182 Hz DyAc is not required, I just did it for FPS sake. You can run this at 240 Hz and get the maximum benefit from input latency and smoothness. In fact, lately I've been running it at 240 Hz + DyAc after tweaking Warzone since I can often hit 200-240 fps while playing. I also bought a pair of Sennheiser HD 58X headphones to go w/this setup and man I'm in gaming heaven. What people don't usually understand with these BenQ's is that the strobe area is adjustable so you can tweak it to near perfection. Not many other displays on the market offer this level of flexibility and couple that w/the fact that this monitor actually gets brighter with BFI/DyAc active and it makes it extra unique (it gets extremely bright at 100% so if you're sensitive to that, I'd run it at a reduced brightness).

Quote from a Japanese review: http://blog.livedoor.jp/wisteriear/arch ... 95844.html
with DyAc + of "ZOWIE XL2746S" it is not fixed brightness but the same as the normal mode. The feature is that it can be adjusted freely from 0 to 100%, a maximum setting of 480 cd / m ^ 2 in the high setting, and a very bright screen display of 430 cd / m ^ 2 even in the premium setting that further reduces the afterimage.
In addition, you can manually tweak crosstalk using BlurBuster's BenQ utility instead of having to go into the service menu each time: https://blurbusters.com/benq/strobe-utility/
Awesome, thank you for clearing things up for me, I'll keep my pre order but the wait is brutal haha.

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