Do you have proper equipment? Bcuz i used a two oscilloscopes($400 being one fo them). Also with colors, can you prove that the 8 bit Asus has anti banding technology, ditherign, and a 10 bit color depth like the MSI?
Why VG279QM is fastest?RLCScontender wrote: ↑03 May 2020, 05:50AND confirmation bias. Finding every little evidence to support your own bias against that said item. Yet why does every youtuber who reviewed the new IPS monitor say the same thing "can't really tell the difference between TN but the TN like performance is definitely there"
uh what? the VG279qm is the fastest monitor in the world right now. LOL FASTER than any TNThe more important is to get used to one choosen monitor and adapt the sensitivity of the mouse + learn aiming at (in case of IPS panel - more visibile) players due to other colors (the eyes need to get used to new colors also)
Im still thinking about the guy who were using the Acer XF252Q (240hz TN) with the 3ms input lag and moved on Asus VG279QM and played on this better in Cs GO due to lower input lag, in this case 2ms. Or maybe he was better due to the Estimated Signal Processing Lag which is insanly low on Asus= 0.30ms.
I assume this is similar on the MAG, even u said its 2,4ms (total input lag?), so its still similar to 2ms )asus)
The 2,4ms on the MSI is based on Pixel Response Time Element ? dunno what is the difference vs Estimated Signal Processing Lag (0,3 on asus)
I know this is minimal difference but still its good to know
input lag at 240hz refresh and framerates above the refresh rate become impossible to know the difference. (unless you're comparing extremes like 2ms input lag to 5ms input lag). Trivial changes in input lag doesnt' matter.
IF TWO equally skilled CSGO players, one of them is using a monitor with 2ms input lag and the other a 2.4ms input lag, the differences are so negligible that any variance in head to head competition isn't because of the input lag. However, the person with the slight disadvantage in input lag will have better viewing angles, no side effects such as distortion from the edges, better more accurate colors , and is able to use that monitor fore very thing else other than gaming. THAT is 1 million times noticeable than these trivial differences in performance.
t;dr;ljk
g2g average becomes redundant at 240hz
trivial differences in input lag if two skilled players went head to head would have zero impact
Do you think it's harder to spot enemies in the distance on 1080p 27inch compared to 24inch in battle royal games or battlefield V if you're familiar with games like this? Or in CSGO on dust 2 if you're checking A from the pit for example?forii wrote: ↑03 May 2020, 05:55
Why VG279QM is fastest?
You said the MAG is faster, faster response time, better overdrive, less aggressive crosstalk, input lag same
Thats the reason why I bought Mag and hopefully it will be better and faster than asus, even thought I paid 473$ for that, after huge discount, because it costs 528$ normally (Proshop site/poland). Asus 27 inch is 408$
the MSI is about 25% faster within the 240hz refresh. Since the pixel response time 0.8-1ms in the advantage of the MSI. if the FPS exceeds 240hz and the person overclocks the Asus to 280hz, the asus is faster(presuming the FPS is above 240hz)forii wrote: ↑03 May 2020, 05:55Why VG279QM is fastest?RLCScontender wrote: ↑03 May 2020, 05:50AND confirmation bias. Finding every little evidence to support your own bias against that said item. Yet why does every youtuber who reviewed the new IPS monitor say the same thing "can't really tell the difference between TN but the TN like performance is definitely there"
uh what? the VG279qm is the fastest monitor in the world right now. LOL FASTER than any TNThe more important is to get used to one choosen monitor and adapt the sensitivity of the mouse + learn aiming at (in case of IPS panel - more visibile) players due to other colors (the eyes need to get used to new colors also)
Im still thinking about the guy who were using the Acer XF252Q (240hz TN) with the 3ms input lag and moved on Asus VG279QM and played on this better in Cs GO due to lower input lag, in this case 2ms. Or maybe he was better due to the Estimated Signal Processing Lag which is insanly low on Asus= 0.30ms.
I assume this is similar on the MAG, even u said its 2,4ms (total input lag?), so its still similar to 2ms )asus)
The 2,4ms on the MSI is based on Pixel Response Time Element ? dunno what is the difference vs Estimated Signal Processing Lag (0,3 on asus)
I know this is minimal difference but still its good to know
input lag at 240hz refresh and framerates above the refresh rate become impossible to know the difference. (unless you're comparing extremes like 2ms input lag to 5ms input lag). Trivial changes in input lag doesnt' matter.
IF TWO equally skilled CSGO players, one of them is using a monitor with 2ms input lag and the other a 2.4ms input lag, the differences are so negligible that any variance in head to head competition isn't because of the input lag. However, the person with the slight disadvantage in input lag will have better viewing angles, no side effects such as distortion from the edges, better more accurate colors , and is able to use that monitor fore very thing else other than gaming. THAT is 1 million times noticeable than these trivial differences in performance.
t;dr;ljk
g2g average becomes redundant at 240hz
trivial differences in input lag if two skilled players went head to head would have zero impact
You said the MAG is faster, faster response time, better overdrive, less aggressive crosstalk, input lag same
Thats the reason why I bought Mag and hopefully it will be better and faster than asus, even thought I paid 473$ for that, after huge discount, because it costs 528$ normally (Proshop site/poland). Asus 27 inch is 408$
I see, ok, thats good, my fps are much lower than 240 sometimes.RLCScontender wrote: ↑03 May 2020, 11:00the MSI is about 25% faster within the 240hz refresh. Since the pixel response time 0.8-1ms in the advantage of the MSI. if the FPS exceeds 240hz and the person overclocks the Asus to 280hz, the asus is faster(presuming the FPS is above 240hz)forii wrote: ↑03 May 2020, 05:55Why VG279QM is fastest?RLCScontender wrote: ↑03 May 2020, 05:50AND confirmation bias. Finding every little evidence to support your own bias against that said item. Yet why does every youtuber who reviewed the new IPS monitor say the same thing "can't really tell the difference between TN but the TN like performance is definitely there"
uh what? the VG279qm is the fastest monitor in the world right now. LOL FASTER than any TNThe more important is to get used to one choosen monitor and adapt the sensitivity of the mouse + learn aiming at (in case of IPS panel - more visibile) players due to other colors (the eyes need to get used to new colors also)
Im still thinking about the guy who were using the Acer XF252Q (240hz TN) with the 3ms input lag and moved on Asus VG279QM and played on this better in Cs GO due to lower input lag, in this case 2ms. Or maybe he was better due to the Estimated Signal Processing Lag which is insanly low on Asus= 0.30ms.
I assume this is similar on the MAG, even u said its 2,4ms (total input lag?), so its still similar to 2ms )asus)
The 2,4ms on the MSI is based on Pixel Response Time Element ? dunno what is the difference vs Estimated Signal Processing Lag (0,3 on asus)
I know this is minimal difference but still its good to know
input lag at 240hz refresh and framerates above the refresh rate become impossible to know the difference. (unless you're comparing extremes like 2ms input lag to 5ms input lag). Trivial changes in input lag doesnt' matter.
IF TWO equally skilled CSGO players, one of them is using a monitor with 2ms input lag and the other a 2.4ms input lag, the differences are so negligible that any variance in head to head competition isn't because of the input lag. However, the person with the slight disadvantage in input lag will have better viewing angles, no side effects such as distortion from the edges, better more accurate colors , and is able to use that monitor fore very thing else other than gaming. THAT is 1 million times noticeable than these trivial differences in performance.
t;dr;ljk
g2g average becomes redundant at 240hz
trivial differences in input lag if two skilled players went head to head would have zero impact
You said the MAG is faster, faster response time, better overdrive, less aggressive crosstalk, input lag same
Thats the reason why I bought Mag and hopefully it will be better and faster than asus, even thought I paid 473$ for that, after huge discount, because it costs 528$ normally (Proshop site/poland). Asus 27 inch is 408$
