05/22/2020 UPDATE. The IPS 240hz monitor tier list.(I've measured/tried the all) and my honest explanation why.

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Re: 05/22/2020 UPDATE. The IPS 240hz monitor tier list.(I've measured/tried the all) and my honest explanation why.

Post by ProX » 11 Jun 2020, 04:18

Can you check the input lags (not g2g) with G-Sync on (v-sync off) FPS @240 (or below) and set the AW2521HF on Extreme Overdrive. I think the AW2521HF will have better results. You should also check my results on Site 39.

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Re: 05/22/2020 UPDATE. The IPS 240hz monitor tier list.(I've measured/tried the all) and my honest explanation why.

Post by RLCSContender* » 11 Jun 2020, 04:55

so basically assymetricalblur=trailing artefacts in ONE side(coronas or ghosting artefacts)
symmetrical blur=slight dbl images MAINLY on the dome but as the refresh rate gets lower, it's basically everywhere.

that makes a lot of sense. As the higher the FPS/Refresh rate is, the less symmetrical blur, which explains the better motion clarity when jumping from 144hz to 240hz, this unfortunately trivializes TN panels major advantage which is faster response times(which is very noticeable on adaptive sync range, in those UFO tests ANd in practice).

. The one i was mostly looking at was the "assymetrical blur" or trailing artefacts. This also explains why the 280hz monitor has slightly less symmetrical blur(due to increased MPRT) than the 240hz monitors. Although it's difficult to see

Weird because those two photos had two straight lines, so they should be fairly accurate UFO tests. I'm wondering why the alienware UFO test doesnt' have symmetrical blur when both their persistence is at -4(240hz). That or i didn't take the UFO test correctly.

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Either way, that doesn't disprove the response times. I've looked at the UFO tests fairly well and the MSI is the sharper image of the two with very very feint inverse ghosting artefacts whereas the Alienware showed ghosting on the dome but no inverse ghosting artefacts(it's weird how it didn't show symmetrical blur though, maybe i didn't take the UFO test photo correctly).

here's another accurate ufo test photo(straight line) of the 240hz msi(LEFT) vs 240hz Alienware (RIGHT)

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Re: 05/22/2020 UPDATE. The IPS 240hz monitor tier list.(I've measured/tried the all) and my honest explanation why.

Post by Blehhh » 11 Jun 2020, 06:41

RLCScontender wrote:
10 Jun 2020, 22:47
Shyzo wrote:
10 Jun 2020, 16:28
Hey there.
Insane testing you did there. I did not read through all 39 Pages but I read the first and skipped through some of the others.

I am wondering why you said Backlight strobing is a must have for you since you use it to break a losing streak.
Is there a reason then why you don´t always use it in the first place? It apparently makes you play better!?

I am also currently on the struggle if I should get the AW2521HF (340€) or MAG251RX (399€) or VG259QM (350€).

out of the three, it goes like this

1. MSI. Not available or too expensive?
2. Asus 25", not available or too expensive?
3. Alienware 25", not available or too expensive?

dont' waste your money on anythign else but these three.

i would go with the MSI given that option. the MSI is fast and has a godly gaming app where you can cheat in REAL TIME. For example, if you are quick scoping with a sniper rifle on CSGO or battlefield or want to get that perfect head shot, 1 click of a button and 240hz backlight strobing is on with the MSi, and boom, the guy's brains got blown out. or if i want to get that PERFECT kick of in rocket league, 1 click of the button to turn on 240hz strobing, and i get that PERFECT hit right in the middle. They will soon add "zero latency" on the MSI gaming app for the msi mag251rx as well.

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to me, backlgiht strobing is pretty darn important. The MSI has this app where you can assign any macro, even the crossheirs. if you play with it enough, you can use that as a way to cheat or gain an unfair advantage.

also, the MSI can get a 12 bit color depth signal via HDMI @120hz
Finally a good review for VG259QM, Thanks for all the effort can wait to see the numbers :). Btw i want to ask about MSI gaming app. so basically you have to press a button for the backlight strobing to be activated to get the perfect headshot or perfect kick in rocket league, then do u need to press the button again to off it?
If so does this mean Everytime i try to get the perfect headshot or perfect kick in rocket league i have to press the button every single time? wouldnt that be abit annoying since u mostly need spend the time focusing. Sorry im completely ignorant about this app, trying to understand it.
Thanks for the clarification in advance and stay safe :)

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Re: 05/22/2020 UPDATE. The IPS 240hz monitor tier list.(I've measured/tried the all) and my honest explanation why.

Post by RLCSContender* » 11 Jun 2020, 10:05

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It's situational and only be used on specific situations. you can revert back to ur original settings by simply assigning macro that does that.

For me, i use it on specific situations or if if i'm on a bad losing streak. i strobe as a way to avoid playing on tilt. Backlight strobing to me is my anti-tilt measures. It's a way to see the game in a different point of view since sometimes i get bored playing the normal way. it's a luxury, a helpful one at that.

Also, because it can strobe at 240hz, it can be used competitively as well. If iw ere to loook back at all my matches using backlight strobing, i would say i win around 80% of the time. in rocket league, it's VERY easy to whiff the ball especially if it's going fast. I find that if i'm strobing, i rarely make mistakes(espeCIALLy on a 50/50 situation) and this is all from sub-conscious level.

i just prefer to play the normal way since it's already buttery smooth enough as it is. I juts use it in situationss where i know it can help me out.

yes, the app has plenty of macros you can use. if you are creative, you have an unfair edge above the competition. it's best uses are for FPS and shooter games(revealing enemies, seeing in the dark, sniping for that clear head shot, etc). it's pretty darn useful. Get creative and figure out your playstyle UNQUE to you.

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Re: 05/22/2020 UPDATE. The IPS 240hz monitor tier list.(I've measured/tried the all) and my honest explanation why.

Post by kofman13 » 11 Jun 2020, 10:34

RLCScontender wrote:
10 Jun 2020, 23:39
IPS

Not a big fan of TN.
Besides color accuracy and viewing angles, what do you like about IPS more than TN? speaking in terms of pure gaming performance. i obviously know only a fraction of what you know about monitors, but i always read that if you dont care about visuals, TN always is better? thats why i been waiting for XL2546S since benQ apparently has the best BFI/blur reduction. but maybe i should be focusing on IPS?

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Re: 05/22/2020 UPDATE. The IPS 240hz monitor tier list.(I've measured/tried the all) and my honest explanation why.

Post by WayUpGaming » 11 Jun 2020, 13:20

RLCScontender, pulled the trigger on the MSI Optix MAG251RX, can you please share your ICC profile?

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Re: 05/22/2020 UPDATE. The IPS 240hz monitor tier list.(I've measured/tried the all) and my honest explanation why.

Post by Ryno24 » 11 Jun 2020, 13:40

WayUpGaming wrote:
11 Jun 2020, 13:20
RLCScontender, pulled the trigger on the MSI Optix MAG251RX, can you please share your ICC profile?
Dang that was quick!

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Re: 05/22/2020 UPDATE. The IPS 240hz monitor tier list.(I've measured/tried the all) and my honest explanation why.

Post by Shyzo » 11 Jun 2020, 17:58

RLCScontender wrote:
10 Jun 2020, 22:47

out of the three, it goes like this

1. MSI. Not available or too expensive?
2. Asus 25", not available or too expensive?
3. Alienware 25", not available or too expensive?

dont' waste your money on anythign else but these three.

They will soon add "zero latency" on the MSI gaming app for the msi mag251rx as well.
Ty for your advice. What will the "zero latency" do?
RLCScontender wrote:
10 Jun 2020, 22:47
to me, backlgiht strobing is pretty darn important.
Why don´t you always enable it? The monitor is too dim for you if enabled or any other reason?
RLCScontender wrote:
10 Jun 2020, 22:47
also, the MSI can get a 12 bit color depth signal via HDMI @120hz
Source?

What do you think about the Predator XB253Q GX? https://www.acer.com/ac/en/US/content/p ... .KX3AA.X03

Edit: Another question: Do any of the 240Hz IPS panels have True 10bit?

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Re: 05/22/2020 UPDATE. The IPS 240hz monitor tier list.(I've measured/tried the all) and my honest explanation why.

Post by WayUpGaming » 11 Jun 2020, 20:16

Ryno24 wrote:
11 Jun 2020, 13:40
WayUpGaming wrote:
11 Jun 2020, 13:20
RLCScontender, pulled the trigger on the MSI Optix MAG251RX, can you please share your ICC profile?
Dang that was quick!
Haha ya, after hearing opinions from yourself and RLCS, I was definitely sold on it lol. I should be getting it in 5 days, can't wait!

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Re: 05/22/2020 UPDATE. The IPS 240hz monitor tier list.(I've measured/tried the all) and my honest explanation why.

Post by gmgp17 » 11 Jun 2020, 20:21

WayUpGaming wrote:
11 Jun 2020, 20:16
Ryno24 wrote:
11 Jun 2020, 13:40
WayUpGaming wrote:
11 Jun 2020, 13:20
RLCScontender, pulled the trigger on the MSI Optix MAG251RX, can you please share your ICC profile?
Dang that was quick!
Haha ya, after hearing opinions from yourself and RLCS, I was definitely sold on it lol. I should be getting it in 5 days, can't wait!
where did you find one?

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