05/22/2020 UPDATE. The IPS 240hz monitor tier list.(I've measured/tried the all) and my honest explanation why.

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Re: 05/22/2020 UPDATE. The IPS 240hz monitor tier list.(I've measured/tried the all) and my honest explanation why.

Post by RLCSContender* » 16 Jun 2020, 18:35

The final input lag test at 60hz fixed refresh.

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This is quite possibly the best console gaming monitor right now. Not to mention, it will have a firmware update where its HDMI 2.0 port will support HDMI-VRR up to 144hz i believe.

Coming up next, ULMB (144hz and 120hz respectively)


btw, to anyone reading, just ignore the trolls/shit posters. There are a lot of disgruntled TN users who are trying to cope. As i've stated, i'm not here to start a heated debate about their coping mechanisms. I've been fairly transparent with my tests, the tests i've used, and i've used excessive amounts of photos/videos/etc backing up almost everything i've said.

They have WORDS,

while i have THIS

Image. This thing right here is what i recommend if you intend to measure rise and fall times.

as an engineer, i've been doing rise/fall time measurements ever since i was in college and fortunately, it overlap with computer science.

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Re: 05/22/2020 UPDATE. The IPS 240hz monitor tier list.(I've measured/tried the all) and my honest explanation why.

Post by Kryptik » 16 Jun 2020, 18:44

axaro1 wrote:
16 Jun 2020, 05:18

Set the monitor to 280hz and enable Gsync/Freesync + ingame(or config file) fps cap

Unless you can constantly output more than 280fps I don't think it's worth to play with an uncapped framerate, personally I'm very sensible to tearing even at the higher refresh rate.

In games where my fps fluctuate between 220-300 I prefer setting the refresh rate to 240hz and capping at 236, this is a personal choice but I think it definitely helps muscle memory since you keep the frametime variations as consistent as possible.
Ok so for example if I can't get more than 250 fps in quake than the best thing to do is use 240hz (or 280hz?) with freesync + 250 fps cap

or use 240hz and cap the fps at 236?

Which method should offer the least input lag or doesn't really matter?

Also what do you guys think of the VG259QM colors for an IPS?..I've been seeing some reviews suggesting its colors are good but aren't that great compared to other IPS monitors so some clarification as to what exactly that means would be nice.

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Re: 05/22/2020 UPDATE. The IPS 240hz monitor tier list.(I've measured/tried the all) and my honest explanation why.

Post by Makie » 16 Jun 2020, 18:54

Hey RLSCcontender, Sir you are doing a fine job with your research and testing. The information you provided has been invaluable for customers like me trying to narrow down the right monitor for ps5/Xbox/pc gaming. To your recommendation I bought and now own the Mag251rx and have been very pleased so far. The majority usage is for gaming on consoles and pc. Input lag and response time is very important and the color from IPS is a huge bonus. I intend to get a 2nd monitor and now have just ordered the xb273x based on your recommendation again. Keep up the good work sir!

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Re: 05/22/2020 UPDATE. The IPS 240hz monitor tier list.(I've measured/tried the all) and my honest explanation why.

Post by WayUpGaming » 16 Jun 2020, 19:53

damn man, now you're making me regret ordering the MSI MAG251RX lol....the Acer was on sale too and I passed up on that for this one due to your recommendation earlier, I had a feeling this Acer monitor was gonna be a beast!

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Re: 05/22/2020 UPDATE. The IPS 240hz monitor tier list.(I've measured/tried the all) and my honest explanation why.

Post by Sacraficemygoat » 16 Jun 2020, 21:15

@RLCScontender So I've read a few pages here and there. I'm really undecided on the AW2521HF or Asus VG259QM. Though by the little research I've been able to find, it seems the VG259QM may be the better option to go with.

I have both monitors coming tomorrow (wasn't intended, but ended up happening LOL.) What would you guys recommend? I'll be using it mainly for competitive gaming. I prefer the minimalist look of the Asus compared to the AW. I also don't care about 280Hz on the Asus, 100% okay with 240Hz which is what I'll run on either monitor.

Would you recommend the Asus over the AW?
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Re: 05/22/2020 UPDATE. The IPS 240hz monitor tier list.(I've measured/tried the all) and my honest explanation why.

Post by js27 » 16 Jun 2020, 21:21

RLCScontender I have a question for you, are the response times on acer the same with g-sync on vs off?
About gsync monitors having no input lag, I dont think thats true, check tftcentral review for asus pg258q, it has 2.9ms processing lag,
also dell s2716dg has 2.7ms

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Re: 05/22/2020 UPDATE. The IPS 240hz monitor tier list.(I've measured/tried the all) and my honest explanation why.

Post by 1000WATT » 16 Jun 2020, 21:52

RLCScontender wrote: btw, to anyone reading, just ignore the trolls/shit posters. There are a lot of disgruntled TN users who are trying to cope. As i've stated, i'm not here to start a heated debate about their coping mechanisms. I've been fairly transparent with my tests, the tests i've used, and i've used excessive amounts of photos/videos/etc backing up almost everything i've said.
RLCScontender wrote:
16 Jun 2020, 18:35
They have WORDS,
while i have THIS
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I do not need a photodiode to understand that all the monitors in this g-sync picture and all have different input lags.
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I do not need a photodiode to know that they have the exact same g-sync module installed as in the first g-sync monitor. An exception is a monitor with g-sync2 and active cooling.

After blocking from the chief. You wrote low-key posts for a month. Has anyone come to your topic and start to bother you? I do not see these posts. But you again began to turn this forum into a ips vs tn war.

Let's remember how it was.
RLCScontender wrote:
11 May 2020, 22:54
ya i do apologize for bashing TN. Even if what i posted was truthful, some people find it insulting if i did. That is the gist of the heated debates.

Its not something ppl want to hear regardless if it's true. The same way if i go to a religious event and i blurted out that religion is false.

Anyways, i sincerely apologize to the TN owners who feel insulted. If TN is your preference, more power to ya. Not here to convince u otherwise.
And a month later, you again set to work on the old.
RLCScontender wrote:
16 Jun 2020, 13:22
if you put the 240hz g sync predator against the fastest TN, the fastest TN will lose. The response time differences are SO negligible that it's literally impossible to tell the difference in practice in my opinion. however, the input lag is night and day. The input lag is LOWER on the predator AND LOWER accross the refresh rate range. Whereas the fastest TN, the input lag starts to get horrendous the moment the FPS dips below 240hz.

TFT central posted these input lag results. The fastest TN Acer Nitro XF252Q has way more input lag than the acer nitro xv273x(the same exact panel and release date as the xb273x, difference is the predator has instantaneous no input lag thx to g-sync scaler and way better response times).
Yes, a monitor with a g-sync module in the vast majority of cases gives a smaller input lag at a frequency of 60. But what does this have to do with ips or tn? As if there is only ips240g-sync, and tn240g-sync does not exist.
RLCScontender wrote:
13 Jun 2020, 01:32
the fastest TN has more input lag and it gets UGLY if you play at lower refresh rates. For example, the Alienware aw2521hf's input lag is generally consistent throughout its refresh rate range, Even on 60hz, the input lag is still low(240hz, it's almost as low as the acer clone). But when i had the omen x27, the input lag was unbearable (especially at 60hz). Even the fastest TN omen x25f, the input lag gets UGLY if the FPS is below 240hz(according to rtings).
One gets the feeling that x25f and fx252q are two monitors on this planet.

Please contact the moderators if you think that I’m trolling you and lying to your topic. Let's see how it ends.
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Re: 05/22/2020 UPDATE. The IPS 240hz monitor tier list.(I've measured/tried the all) and my honest explanation why.

Post by RLCSContender* » 16 Jun 2020, 22:31

js27 wrote:
16 Jun 2020, 21:21
RLCScontender I have a question for you, are the response times on acer the same with g-sync on vs off?
About gsync monitors having no input lag, I dont think thats true, check tftcentral review for asus pg258q, it has 2.9ms processing lag,
also dell s2716dg has 2.7ms
not in my train of thought to do that but, here you go.



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beautiful aint it?


looks like no changes in response time. All you see is a crispy clear looking UFO with ZERO overshoot.


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Re: 05/22/2020 UPDATE. The IPS 240hz monitor tier list.(I've measured/tried the all) and my honest explanation why.

Post by Makie » 16 Jun 2020, 22:49

How’s the picture quality and colors on the xb273x compared to the Mag251rx is there a discernible difference?

To be clear the xb273x is better than the Mag251rx when it comes to console gaming at 60hz? Low input lag and response time with no ghosting overshoot? I want the best monitor for PS5/Xbox series x

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