Need help choosing for competetive gaming (XL2546 / XG2730 / MAG251RX)

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Need help choosing for competetive gaming (XL2546 / XG2730 / MAG251RX)

Post by Diesto » 06 Aug 2020, 15:42

Hello!

So I am into competetive gaming and want to buy a 240hz screen. I was kind of set on the BenQ Zowie XL2546 since most pros use this screen, but upon researching I get a bit uncertain. XL2546 is one of the oldest 240hz monitors and I know there will soon come a new one. Also the new IPS looks nice, but a bit worried about their perfomance compared to the XL2546 although I´ve read that IPS has improved a lot recently.

What would you consider to be the ultimate gaming screen, and why?

I want the smoothest experience (least ghosting / overshoot) with the lowest amount of repsonse time and input lag. Color accuracy is nice, but not a priority. I have mainly narrowed it down to these:

BenQ Zowie XL2546 / s
MSI Optix MAG251RX
Viewsonic XG2730


Bonus question I sometimes play warzone at 140 fps. Is there any huge drawbacks on playing with a 240hz monitor compared to a 144hz monitor when fps is lower?

Thanks everyone! :D

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Re: Need help choosing for competetive gaming (XL2546 / XG2730 / MAG251RX)

Post by frosti » 16 Aug 2020, 16:21

Imo MSI. After 2 days of reading reviews I'll go for it.

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Re: Need help choosing for competetive gaming (XL2546 / XG2730 / MAG251RX)

Post by purplew » 17 Aug 2020, 10:00

i have the mag251rx, there's a fair amount of crosstalk if you're truly looking for motionblur-free gaming it's not the best choice. but it does have good colors (i guess)

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Re: Need help choosing for competetive gaming (XL2546 / XG2730 / MAG251RX)

Post by Stevie66 » 17 Aug 2020, 10:45

I got the MAG251RX and LG 27GN750 lately and prefer the LG for gaming, feels more responsive and clearer for me. Have the Alienware AW2521HF on the way next and will compare it to the LG. Acer ones seem the best or so people say so I would probably try those next.
Also heard good things about the 280hz Asus ones, but I also use the monitor for console gaming and fighting games and they have huge lag at 60hz, if you don't play anything that low you should probably look into it.

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Re: Need help choosing for competetive gaming (XL2546 / XG2730 / MAG251RX)

Post by Faskill » 21 Aug 2020, 06:41

Stevie66 wrote:
17 Aug 2020, 10:45
I got the MAG251RX and LG 27GN750 lately and prefer the LG for gaming, feels more responsive and clearer for me. Have the Alienware AW2521HF on the way next and will compare it to the LG. Acer ones seem the best or so people say so I would probably try those next.
Also heard good things about the 280hz Asus ones, but I also use the monitor for console gaming and fighting games and they have huge lag at 60hz, if you don't play anything that low you should probably look into it.
Hi Stevie, would love any comment on the AW2521 once you receive it, currently hesitating between this one and the Acer XB253QGX

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Re: Need help choosing for competetive gaming (XL2546 / XG2730 / MAG251RX)

Post by speancer » 21 Aug 2020, 08:13

Stevie66 wrote:
17 Aug 2020, 10:45
I got the MAG251RX and LG 27GN750 lately and prefer the LG for gaming, feels more responsive and clearer for me. Have the Alienware AW2521HF on the way next and will compare it to the LG. Acer ones seem the best or so people say so I would probably try those next.
Also heard good things about the 280hz Asus ones, but I also use the monitor for console gaming and fighting games and they have huge lag at 60hz, if you don't play anything that low you should probably look into it.
Concerning ASUS 280 Hz monitors, as far as I know only VG279QM has very high input lag on fixed 60 Hz refresh rate, VG259QM doesn't have this problem. I'm waiting for RTINGS review for final confirmation, however.

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Main display (TV/PC monitor): LG 42C21LA (4K 120 Hz OLED / WBE panel)
Tested displays: ASUS VG259QM/VG279QM [favourite LCD FPS display] (280 Hz IPS) • Zowie XL2546K/XL2540K/XL2546 (240 Hz TN DyAc) • Dell S3222DGM [favourite LCD display for the best blacks, contrast and panel uniformity] (165 Hz VA) • Dell Alienware AW2521HFLA (240 Hz IPS) • HP Omen X 25f (240 Hz TN) • MSI MAG251RX (240 Hz IPS) • Gigabyte M27Q (170 Hz IPS) • Acer Predator XB273X (240 Hz IPS G-SYNC) • Acer Predator XB271HU (165 Hz IPS G-SYNC) • Acer Nitro XV272UKV (170 Hz IPS) • Acer Nitro XV252QF (390 Hz IPS) • LG 27GN800 (144 Hz IPS) • LG 27GL850 (144 Hz nanoIPS) • LG 27GP850 (180 Hz nanoIPS) • Samsung Odyssey G7 (240 Hz VA)

OS: Windows 11 Pro GPU: Palit GeForce RTX 4090 GameRock OC CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D + be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 + Arctic MX-6 RAM: 32GB (2x16GB dual channel) DDR5 Kingston Fury Beast Black 6000 MHz CL30 (fully optimized primary and secondary timings by Buildzoid for SK Hynix die on AM5 platform) PSU: Corsair RM1200x SHIFT 1200W (ATX 3.0, PCIe 5.0 12VHPWR 600W) SSD1: Kingston KC3000 1TB NVMe PCIe 4.0 x4 SSD2: Corsair Force MP510 960GB PCIe 3.0 x4 MB: ASUS ROG STRIX X670E-A GAMING WIFI (GPU PCIe 5.0 x16, NVMe PCIe 5.0 x4) CASE: be quiet! Silent Base 802 Window White CASE FANS: be quiet! Silent Wings 4 140mm PWM (3x front, 1x rear, 1x top rear, positive pressure) MOUSE: Logitech G PRO X Superlight (white) Lightspeed wireless MOUSEPAD: ARTISAN FX HIEN (wine red, soft, XL) KEYBOARD: Logitech G915 TKL (white, GL Tactile) Lightspeed wireless HEADPHONES: Sennheiser Momentum 4 Wireless (white) 24-bit 96 KHz + Sennheiser BTD600 Bluetooth 5.2 aptX Adaptive CHAIR: Herman Miller Aeron (graphite, fully loaded, size C)

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Re: Need help choosing for competetive gaming (XL2546 / XG2730 / MAG251RX)

Post by Stevie66 » 21 Aug 2020, 10:44

Faskill wrote:
21 Aug 2020, 06:41
Stevie66 wrote:
17 Aug 2020, 10:45
I got the MAG251RX and LG 27GN750 lately and prefer the LG for gaming, feels more responsive and clearer for me. Have the Alienware AW2521HF on the way next and will compare it to the LG. Acer ones seem the best or so people say so I would probably try those next.
Also heard good things about the 280hz Asus ones, but I also use the monitor for console gaming and fighting games and they have huge lag at 60hz, if you don't play anything that low you should probably look into it.
Hi Stevie, would love any comment on the AW2521 once you receive it, currently hesitating between this one and the Acer XB253QGX
Sure, should be getting it early September(Dell is slow) and it will be compared with the LG GN750, and the MSI MAG, nothing scientific of course.
speancer wrote:
21 Aug 2020, 08:13
Stevie66 wrote:
17 Aug 2020, 10:45
I got the MAG251RX and LG 27GN750 lately and prefer the LG for gaming, feels more responsive and clearer for me. Have the Alienware AW2521HF on the way next and will compare it to the LG. Acer ones seem the best or so people say so I would probably try those next.
Also heard good things about the 280hz Asus ones, but I also use the monitor for console gaming and fighting games and they have huge lag at 60hz, if you don't play anything that low you should probably look into it.
Concerning ASUS 280 Hz monitors, as far as I know only VG279QM has very high input lag on fixed 60 Hz refresh rate, VG259QM doesn't have this problem. I'm waiting for RTINGS review for final confirmation, however.

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Oh I figured both would be similar, guess I'll wait for the review on it, would be great if it didn't have that problem then I'd put it back on my list to try out.

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Re: Need help choosing for competetive gaming (XL2546 / XG2730 / MAG251RX)

Post by purplew » 21 Aug 2020, 12:00

Also check out the HP Omen X25 , 240hz TN with really nice colors

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Re: Need help choosing for competetive gaming (XL2546 / XG2730 / MAG251RX)

Post by speancer » 21 Aug 2020, 12:55

purplew wrote:
21 Aug 2020, 12:00
Also check out the HP Omen X25 , 240hz TN with really nice colors
Just to add, seems like Omen X 25 is the G-SYNC version and Omen X 25f is Free-Sync version of the same monitor. Thanks to that X 25f is much cheaper. Monitors with G-SYNC modules are always more expensive.

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Main display (TV/PC monitor): LG 42C21LA (4K 120 Hz OLED / WBE panel)
Tested displays: ASUS VG259QM/VG279QM [favourite LCD FPS display] (280 Hz IPS) • Zowie XL2546K/XL2540K/XL2546 (240 Hz TN DyAc) • Dell S3222DGM [favourite LCD display for the best blacks, contrast and panel uniformity] (165 Hz VA) • Dell Alienware AW2521HFLA (240 Hz IPS) • HP Omen X 25f (240 Hz TN) • MSI MAG251RX (240 Hz IPS) • Gigabyte M27Q (170 Hz IPS) • Acer Predator XB273X (240 Hz IPS G-SYNC) • Acer Predator XB271HU (165 Hz IPS G-SYNC) • Acer Nitro XV272UKV (170 Hz IPS) • Acer Nitro XV252QF (390 Hz IPS) • LG 27GN800 (144 Hz IPS) • LG 27GL850 (144 Hz nanoIPS) • LG 27GP850 (180 Hz nanoIPS) • Samsung Odyssey G7 (240 Hz VA)

OS: Windows 11 Pro GPU: Palit GeForce RTX 4090 GameRock OC CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D + be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 + Arctic MX-6 RAM: 32GB (2x16GB dual channel) DDR5 Kingston Fury Beast Black 6000 MHz CL30 (fully optimized primary and secondary timings by Buildzoid for SK Hynix die on AM5 platform) PSU: Corsair RM1200x SHIFT 1200W (ATX 3.0, PCIe 5.0 12VHPWR 600W) SSD1: Kingston KC3000 1TB NVMe PCIe 4.0 x4 SSD2: Corsair Force MP510 960GB PCIe 3.0 x4 MB: ASUS ROG STRIX X670E-A GAMING WIFI (GPU PCIe 5.0 x16, NVMe PCIe 5.0 x4) CASE: be quiet! Silent Base 802 Window White CASE FANS: be quiet! Silent Wings 4 140mm PWM (3x front, 1x rear, 1x top rear, positive pressure) MOUSE: Logitech G PRO X Superlight (white) Lightspeed wireless MOUSEPAD: ARTISAN FX HIEN (wine red, soft, XL) KEYBOARD: Logitech G915 TKL (white, GL Tactile) Lightspeed wireless HEADPHONES: Sennheiser Momentum 4 Wireless (white) 24-bit 96 KHz + Sennheiser BTD600 Bluetooth 5.2 aptX Adaptive CHAIR: Herman Miller Aeron (graphite, fully loaded, size C)

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Re: Need help choosing for competetive gaming (XL2546 / XG2730 / MAG251RX)

Post by speancer » 25 Aug 2020, 13:39

Stevie66 wrote:
21 Aug 2020, 10:44
Oh I figured both would be similar, guess I'll wait for the review on it, would be great if it didn't have that problem then I'd put it back on my list to try out.
Hey man, got an update and bad news, sadly. According to brand-new review of VG259QM from RTINGS, very high input lag at fixed 60 Hz is also present in the smaller brother of VG279QM. From their test it even seems like the bigger variant is actually better in terms of response times and overshoot performance.

https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/ ... ng-vg259qm
Main display (TV/PC monitor): LG 42C21LA (4K 120 Hz OLED / WBE panel)
Tested displays: ASUS VG259QM/VG279QM [favourite LCD FPS display] (280 Hz IPS) • Zowie XL2546K/XL2540K/XL2546 (240 Hz TN DyAc) • Dell S3222DGM [favourite LCD display for the best blacks, contrast and panel uniformity] (165 Hz VA) • Dell Alienware AW2521HFLA (240 Hz IPS) • HP Omen X 25f (240 Hz TN) • MSI MAG251RX (240 Hz IPS) • Gigabyte M27Q (170 Hz IPS) • Acer Predator XB273X (240 Hz IPS G-SYNC) • Acer Predator XB271HU (165 Hz IPS G-SYNC) • Acer Nitro XV272UKV (170 Hz IPS) • Acer Nitro XV252QF (390 Hz IPS) • LG 27GN800 (144 Hz IPS) • LG 27GL850 (144 Hz nanoIPS) • LG 27GP850 (180 Hz nanoIPS) • Samsung Odyssey G7 (240 Hz VA)

OS: Windows 11 Pro GPU: Palit GeForce RTX 4090 GameRock OC CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D + be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 + Arctic MX-6 RAM: 32GB (2x16GB dual channel) DDR5 Kingston Fury Beast Black 6000 MHz CL30 (fully optimized primary and secondary timings by Buildzoid for SK Hynix die on AM5 platform) PSU: Corsair RM1200x SHIFT 1200W (ATX 3.0, PCIe 5.0 12VHPWR 600W) SSD1: Kingston KC3000 1TB NVMe PCIe 4.0 x4 SSD2: Corsair Force MP510 960GB PCIe 3.0 x4 MB: ASUS ROG STRIX X670E-A GAMING WIFI (GPU PCIe 5.0 x16, NVMe PCIe 5.0 x4) CASE: be quiet! Silent Base 802 Window White CASE FANS: be quiet! Silent Wings 4 140mm PWM (3x front, 1x rear, 1x top rear, positive pressure) MOUSE: Logitech G PRO X Superlight (white) Lightspeed wireless MOUSEPAD: ARTISAN FX HIEN (wine red, soft, XL) KEYBOARD: Logitech G915 TKL (white, GL Tactile) Lightspeed wireless HEADPHONES: Sennheiser Momentum 4 Wireless (white) 24-bit 96 KHz + Sennheiser BTD600 Bluetooth 5.2 aptX Adaptive CHAIR: Herman Miller Aeron (graphite, fully loaded, size C)

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