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dvpaour
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by dvpaour » 02 Nov 2020, 08:10
drjackmann wrote: ↑30 Oct 2020, 14:10
posting here to add a counterpoint to the "2020 gen IPS monitors are as good or superior to TN" - I'm a fast paced gamer with a twitch style of aiming and currently play Overwatch in GM+ as a DPS player, Diabotical, Valorant, etc. I made the transition from an Alienware 2518hf to the Asus VG259QM. The colors and detail were incredible and indeed did give me an advantage over my old set-up in situations where enemies were farther away or standing in a place where they were mildly camouflaged. However, it did NOT feel as responsive when playing super high paced duels. The image always remained very 'sharp' and clear with ELMB enabled at 280hz, but there was a noticeable lack of "smoothness" that I've always gotten from my high refresh TN set-ups. I've since sent that monitor back for return as of this morning and set-up the new XL2546k TN 240hz and it is so much easier to play in high ELO fps games again.
+1 spot on
I am also competitive FPS player and I got a new TN panel (omen x25f). IPS is not there yet, I think for casual gaming IPS is great but it annoys me how marketing and reviewers lie about the viability of IPS for bleeding edge competitive gaming. If you want absolute raw speed, rock solid refresh compliance and don't care about viewing angles or any irrelevant bullshit like that then TN is the only option still. People are lying if they think TN is only used due to sponsors.
Further to that, in trying to catch up to TN speeds, the new fast IPS monitors do not have the image quality advantage you would expect from IPS. There's little IQ difference between these fast IPS and the top TN panels. You're choosing between bad viewing angles (who cares) and glow issues.
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johny_ro
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by johny_ro » 02 Nov 2020, 09:49
drjackmann wrote: ↑02 Nov 2020, 07:35
depends on the game honestly.. and sometimes i switch around. here's what i've been using the past two months.
overwatch - native 1920x1080 (but render scale at 75pct)
valorant - 1600x900
diabotical - native but 4:3 1440x1080
csgo - 1024x768 black bars
apex - native 1920x1080
I'm only intrested in csgo, but I play it native 1080p and someone wrote that Benq is the king in lower resolutions for smoothness.
Right now i'm in dilemma for Zowie 2546K and Asus VG259QM. Do you think that Zowie is faster in 1080p than VG259QM?
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RLCSContender*
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by RLCSContender* » 03 Nov 2020, 02:19
My sincere apologies for not posting.
I've recently turned pro in rocket league so I had less time posting reviews.
for those people curious what its like being an esports professional, they really do spoil you. They give you cash.and the best computer hardware. They give me anything I want on top of a salary
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My headphones alone helps but my alienware aw2521hfl was the main reason why my game.improved.
My monitor is responsible for getting me there. It raised my overall ceiling.
YOUR INVESTMENT in the monitor of your choosing will dictate how good you will.become on my opinion. 240hz really improved my game
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RLCSContender*
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by RLCSContender* » 03 Nov 2020, 02:37
Rlcscontender's rankings based off my results and rigorous tests.
best motion clarity
#1Asus tuf vg259qm
#2 msi mag251rx
#3 dell al8enware aw2521hl(main)
Lowest input lag
#1. Acer predator xb253q gx
#2. Dell alienware aw2521hfl
#3 asus tuf vg259qm
Best strobing
1. Asus tuf vg259qm's elmb sync
2. Viewsonic elite xg270
3. Asus tuf vg279qm's elmb sync purexp
Least motion blur
1. Asus pg259qn
2. Asus vg259qm
2. Asus vg279qm
Fastest g2g response times
1. HP OMEN x27(1.95ms grey 2 grey)[ it has beaten every ips monitor in response time that ive tested]
I'll get into the details soon. But motion claritywise
The vg259qm is so far up ahead of 2nd place(strobing on or off) that it would be disrespectful to even rank #2 when it comes to overall motion clarity/buttery smooth gameplay. Ill get into that later.
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drjackmann
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by drjackmann » 03 Nov 2020, 07:08
johny_ro wrote: ↑02 Nov 2020, 09:49
drjackmann wrote: ↑02 Nov 2020, 07:35
depends on the game honestly.. and sometimes i switch around. here's what i've been using the past two months.
overwatch - native 1920x1080 (but render scale at 75pct)
valorant - 1600x900
diabotical - native but 4:3 1440x1080
csgo - 1024x768 black bars
apex - native 1920x1080
I'm only intrested in csgo, but I play it native 1080p and someone wrote that Benq is the king in lower resolutions for smoothness.
Right now i'm in dilemma for Zowie 2546K and Asus VG259QM. Do you think that Zowie is faster in 1080p than VG259QM?
what I can say is that the sharpening feature works REALLY well with lower resolutions like running 1024x768 in csgo.
I haven't played it really since I got the XL2546k besides hopping in a DM to test it but the image quality is definitely decent for such a low resolution. I'm now going to try the custom resolution (non gpu scaling) method posted on here and see what improvements / differences that makes. in terms of speed between the monitors, I find the speed of the XL2546k to be night and day compared to the VG259QM when it comes to FAST PACED COMPETITIVE FPS GAMES. But that's all it's better at. Any other considerations and it loses to the Asus or one of it's IPS equivalents bar none.
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lavaroach
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by lavaroach » 03 Nov 2020, 18:46
RLCScontender wrote: ↑03 Nov 2020, 02:37
Rlcscontender's rankings based off my results and rigorous tests.
best motion clarity
#1Asus tuf vg259qm
#2 msi mag251rx
#3 dell al8enware aw2521hl(main)
Lowest input lag
#1. Acer predator xb253q gx
#2. Dell alienware aw2521hfl
#3 asus tuf vg259qm
Best strobing
1. Asus tuf vg259qm's elmb sync
2. Viewsonic elite xg270
3. Asus tuf vg279qm's elmb sync purexp
Least motion blur
1. Asus pg259qn
2. Asus vg259qm
2. Asus vg279qm
Fastest g2g response times
1. HP OMEN x27(1.95ms grey 2 grey)[ it has beaten every ips monitor in response time that ive tested]
I'll get into the details soon. But motion claritywise
The vg259qm is so far up ahead of 2nd place(strobing on or off) that it would be disrespectful to even rank #2 when it comes to overall motion clarity/buttery smooth gameplay. Ill get into that later.
I want to thank you for your thoughts and reviews as I am a RL player as well (not anywhere near pro though!). Can you explain why you main the Alienware even though you rank the asus pg259qm with the least motion blur, or the tuf vg259qm as best clarity? basically... why are you maining the alienware even though ranked #3? Is it due to sponsorship? if that's the reason, totally understandable, just curious.
thanks!
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jimbus80
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by jimbus80 » 04 Nov 2020, 07:21
lavaroach wrote: ↑03 Nov 2020, 18:46
why are you maining the alienware even though ranked #3?
Excellent variable overdrive.
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PixelDuck87
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by PixelDuck87 » 04 Nov 2020, 07:37
jimbus80 wrote: ↑04 Nov 2020, 07:21
lavaroach wrote: ↑03 Nov 2020, 18:46
why are you maining the alienware even though ranked #3?
Excellent variable overdrive.
Does it really have a native gsync module?
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Stevie66
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by Stevie66 » 04 Nov 2020, 17:59
PixelDuck87 wrote: ↑04 Nov 2020, 07:37
jimbus80 wrote: ↑04 Nov 2020, 07:21
lavaroach wrote: ↑03 Nov 2020, 18:46
why are you maining the alienware even though ranked #3?
Excellent variable overdrive.
Does it really have a native gsync module?
No, it has some strange OD with adaptive sync on that gives decent results with 2 of the OD settings, with adaptive sync off only 1 OD is good to use.
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LikeableSloth
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by LikeableSloth » 04 Nov 2020, 18:26
Stevie66 wrote: ↑04 Nov 2020, 17:59
PixelDuck87 wrote: ↑04 Nov 2020, 07:37
jimbus80 wrote: ↑04 Nov 2020, 07:21
lavaroach wrote: ↑03 Nov 2020, 18:46
why are you maining the alienware even though ranked #3?
Excellent variable overdrive.
Does it really have a native gsync module?
No, it has some strange OD with adaptive sync on that gives decent results with 2 of the OD settings, with adaptive sync off only 1 OD is good to use.
Good thing there is half a ms differnce between them for the AW vrr on vs off. Freesync or Gsync when you use vrr is my question since it has both?