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AW2521HFLA ghosting

Post by Kaspir » 23 Apr 2022, 17:10

I bought this monitor 3 days ago. Im having insane amount of ghosting when playing on 240hz. When I change to 60hz ghosting drastically reduces. How can I fix this and is this monitor or gpu problem?
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Re: AW2521HFLA ghosting

Post by Chief Blur Buster » 25 Apr 2022, 16:09

Kaspir wrote:
23 Apr 2022, 17:10
I bought this monitor 3 days ago. Im having insane amount of ghosting when playing on 240hz. When I change to 60hz ghosting drastically reduces. How can I fix this and is this monitor or gpu problem?
A more accurate test for ghosting -- please use www.testufo.com/ghosting and do the smartphone handwave (instructions. I need to see motion-ghost.

Important question:
Are you seeing ghosting when you track eyes on moving objects, or only during stationary gaze?

If stationary gaze, make sure not to confuse ghosting with stroboscopic effects -- The Stroboscopic Effect of Finite Frame Rates.

If moving eyes on moving objects and you still see ghosting, make sure you warm up your screen, make sure you adjust your Overdrive settings, try turning off VRR (sometimes cheap implementations of VRR has nasty ghosting effects due to poor overdrive), and see if the ghosting improves. You can also use www.testufo.com/ghosting while adjusting these settings, to improve your ghosting.
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Re: AW2521HFLA ghosting

Post by Kaspir » 25 Apr 2022, 21:09

I have VRR turned off. The instrutions link doesn't work but I think I've made good photo.

During stationary gaze I see alot of ghosting, but when I track moving objects I still see it, and it looks like Stroboscopic Effect of Finite Frame Rates, but it shouldn't be that bad I think.
Also when I move my mouse all textures smear, it looks like pixel response is too low and pixels are changing color too slow.

I use lowest overdrive setting - fast. There is super fast and extreme but these create big overshoot. Using warm colors didn't improve.
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Re: AW2521HFLA ghosting

Post by RealNC » 26 Apr 2022, 04:17

Kaspir wrote:
25 Apr 2022, 21:09
I have VRR turned off. The instrutions link doesn't work but I think I've made good photo.
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Re: AW2521HFLA ghosting

Post by Discorz » 26 Apr 2022, 05:18

For some people higher refresh and frame rate can look blurrier than lower. Increasing refresh rate reduces eye-tracked motion blur but for fixed-gaze situations it narrows the gap between stroboscopic images making the motion look blurry. I belive solution to this is 1000+Hz/fps. viewtopic.php?p=73581#p73581

But before we confirm this is the case do the ghosting test linked above.

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Re: AW2521HFLA ghosting

Post by Kaspir » 26 Apr 2022, 07:50

Photo didn't uploaded, I don't know why but I've made the video.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/10PXx9j ... sp=sharing
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Re: AW2521HFLA ghosting

Post by Chief Blur Buster » 27 Apr 2022, 16:52

Kaspir wrote:
26 Apr 2022, 07:50
Photo didn't uploaded, I don't know why but I've made the video.
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Re: AW2521HFLA ghosting

Post by Kaspir » 28 Apr 2022, 00:10

Ok here's the link. It might have problem playing the video but there is option to download it.

Also, is this normal that color on ips panel depends on position of my camera? In real life it's just grey but on video these moving walls change colors from black to white.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/10PXx9j ... sp=sharing

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Re: AW2521HFLA ghosting

Post by Discorz » 02 May 2022, 04:26

Kaspir wrote:
25 Apr 2022, 21:09
I have VRR turned off. The instrutions link doesn't work but I think I've made good photo.

During stationary gaze I see alot of ghosting, but when I track moving objects I still see it, and it looks like Stroboscopic Effect of Finite Frame Rates, but it shouldn't be that bad I think.
Also when I move my mouse all textures smear, it looks like pixel response is too low and pixels are changing color too slow.

I use lowest overdrive setting - fast. There is super fast and extreme but these create big overshoot. Using warm colors didn't improve.
Kaspir wrote:
28 Apr 2022, 00:10
Ok here's the link. It might have problem playing the video but there is option to download it.

Also, is this normal that color on ips panel depends on position of my camera? In real life it's just grey but on video these moving walls change colors from black to white.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/10PXx9j ... sp=sharing
Did you mean during stationary gaze u see a lot of duplicate images (stroboscopic effect), but when u track u see smeared trail (ghosting)?

Footage shows monitor is working fine. I think you're sensitive to stroboscopic effect, meaning you're a stationary gaze type player. I'm afraid there is not much u can do. Even motion blur reduction won't be very beneficial. You could try it but this monitor doesn't have such feature.

Feel free to enable VRR. There is no reason to have it disabled. It might help a little bit.

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Re: AW2521HFLA ghosting

Post by Loyal888 » 16 Jul 2022, 17:02

I had a 2720hfa for 29 days before I returned it within the 30 days policy that the company had. My problem was the same. But for some reason it gave me bad eye strain and tunnel vision as well. There were nights when I just went to sleep and when I blinked my vision had bright greyish spots in the middle, like 5-6 of them. I couldn't even see properly with very dim lights when I usually do. It was for sure a very "interesting" screen to experience. Never had any issues like this in my life before. Then I bought a plain ips panel, but eventually sold it and now I am in the hunt for a new one, very hard to find a good high refresh rate monitor nowadays tbh. It was an acer nitro vg240yp. That didn't cause me any problems. It was actually good. With the Alienware monitor, I tried lowering brightness, changing frequency, using vesa certified DP cable or the one it came with or the hdmi cable. Tried lowering contrast, f lux and so on. For the weird ghosting, I couldn't fix that in any way. I tried it with different gpus, since dell told me I have a bad setup for the monitor?(never heard of this) Basically with the help of my friends I tried all sort of configs like amd with radeon gpu, amd with nvidia gpu and vice versa. I was never so disappointed in a monitor as the nano ips ones. :\ Sorry to hear that you have this problem. Hope I could help a bit? Good luck!

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