Hello, as most of you know we all have some sort of weird input lag/delay/hit reg, etc.
I'm one of you guys, despite all of my trying and efforts, still have weird blurry, delayed everything. Today I'll share 2 videos that I just captured using my phone.
First video is from my local PC: https://streamable.com/52r7iu
Second video is from my local PC using NvidiaGeForceNow: https://streamable.com/f3l6re
Monitor in the video is MSI Nxg253r 360hz.
My question is: Why when I use Nvidia GeForce Now to play the game, my monitor seems more smooth and feels like high HZ, and the game is not delayed?
Comparison Local Pc + Nvidia GeForce Now
Comparison Local Pc + Nvidia GeForce Now
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Re: Comparison Local Pc + Nvidia GeForce Now
afn7 wrote: ↑03 Aug 2022, 09:15Hello, as most of you know we all have some sort of weird input lag/delay/hit reg, etc.
I'm one of you guys, despite all of my trying and efforts, still have weird blurry, delayed everything. Today I'll share 2 videos that I just captured using my phone.
First video is from my local PC: https://streamable.com/52r7iu
Second video is from my local PC using NvidiaGeForceNow: https://streamable.com/f3l6re
Monitor in the video is MSI Nxg253r 360hz.
My question is: Why when I use Nvidia GeForce Now to play the game, my monitor seems more smooth and feels like high HZ, and the game is not delayed?
TBH- cannot tell just form those videos (would have to be side-by-side and with same input pattern in both scenarios). One is a colored background vs a gray/black/white background. I don't know if that makes a significant different, but just noticed it.
Also, is it possible you are putting in inputs faster in the first video? Maybe GeForce experience has an input delay & your movement is slower (which would appear smoother?)
Re: Comparison Local Pc + Nvidia GeForce Now
Well, when I first try GeForceNow, I notice my keyboard felt responsive, and my monitor felt fluid, even though I was playing through the distanced server(which gives me latency because of ping). Then I decided to take a video that prove me right IMO. Of course, we can do more professional tests, like the same speed, etc. but I have more than 2.5k hours on rocket league, so I did not think that matters. My theory, even if we do test with the same speed, my local computer would have a blurry image. In the video just focus on the ball and you'll understand my point.Shade7 wrote: ↑03 Aug 2022, 16:03TBH- cannot tell just form those videos (would have to be side-by-side and with same input pattern in both scenarios). One is a colored background vs a gray/black/white background. I don't know if that makes a significant different, but just noticed it.
Also, is it possible you are putting in inputs faster in the first video? Maybe GeForce experience has an input delay & your movement is slower (which would appear smoother?)
Maybe people in this forum with the same delay and issues would try GeForceNow 24 hours premium to see how it performs. I also tested csgo and same issue.
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Re: Comparison Local Pc + Nvidia GeForce Now
I think it is because the mouse capture is decoupled from the game.
In Geforce Now you capture 100% of the mouse events at constant intervals and send that buffer to the server.
When you render the game yourself:
1) The game reads at irregular times
2) The game can block mouse capture
3) You may have a race condition for resource
In Geforce Now you capture 100% of the mouse events at constant intervals and send that buffer to the server.
When you render the game yourself:
1) The game reads at irregular times
2) The game can block mouse capture
3) You may have a race condition for resource
Re: Comparison Local Pc + Nvidia GeForce Now
So we can safe to say, GeForceNow kind of acts as a VPN? Because we are connecting the game server from another server.
Also yesterday, just of curiosity I installed windows 10(latest stock) with CSM+Legacy to MBR m2ssd. It seems more stable than UEFI+GPT. Still testing tho.
Also yesterday, just of curiosity I installed windows 10(latest stock) with CSM+Legacy to MBR m2ssd. It seems more stable than UEFI+GPT. Still testing tho.
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Re: Comparison Local Pc + Nvidia GeForce Now
Did it felt less floaty on legacy? I've been trying out legacy too and surprisingly it feels better tooafn7 wrote: ↑05 Aug 2022, 08:08So we can safe to say, GeForceNow kind of acts as a VPN? Because we are connecting the game server from another server.
Also yesterday, just of curiosity I installed windows 10(latest stock) with CSM+Legacy to MBR m2ssd. It seems more stable than UEFI+GPT. Still testing tho.
Re: Comparison Local Pc + Nvidia GeForce Now
Yes, I've been testing all day today. I can definitely say CSM + Legacy with MBR feels more comfortable and less floaty. No secure boot + TPM and I could play valorant. I'll stick with a legacy to test more. My theory is maybe some devices don't fully support UEFI so we end up having issues. Even tho I updated my GTX 1080 VBIOS and GOP. Also, latency moon shows less latency with this setup.Stimpy7314 wrote: ↑05 Aug 2022, 08:33Did it felt less floaty on legacy? I've been trying out legacy too and surprisingly it feels better tooafn7 wrote: ↑05 Aug 2022, 08:08So we can safe to say, GeForceNow kind of acts as a VPN? Because we are connecting the game server from another server.
Also yesterday, just of curiosity I installed windows 10(latest stock) with CSM+Legacy to MBR m2ssd. It seems more stable than UEFI+GPT. Still testing tho.
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Re: Comparison Local Pc + Nvidia GeForce Now
but without secure boot enabled u cant pla faceit or valorant??afn7 wrote: ↑05 Aug 2022, 18:07Yes, I've been testing all day today. I can definitely say CSM + Legacy with MBR feels more comfortable and less floaty. No secure boot + TPM and I could play valorant. I'll stick with a legacy to test more. My theory is maybe some devices don't fully support UEFI so we end up having issues. Even tho I updated my GTX 1080 VBIOS and GOP. Also, latency moon shows less latency with this setup.Stimpy7314 wrote: ↑05 Aug 2022, 08:33Did it felt less floaty on legacy? I've been trying out legacy too and surprisingly it feels better tooafn7 wrote: ↑05 Aug 2022, 08:08So we can safe to say, GeForceNow kind of acts as a VPN? Because we are connecting the game server from another server.
Also yesterday, just of curiosity I installed windows 10(latest stock) with CSM+Legacy to MBR m2ssd. It seems more stable than UEFI+GPT. Still testing tho.
Re: Comparison Local Pc + Nvidia GeForce Now
My drive is formatted as GPT (and I installed Win10 with CSM disabled). Just tried CSM enabled + OS set to "other OS" instead of UEFI. Personally, I felt like it increased my input delay. Mouse movements didn't appear or feel slower (similar appearance on monitor), but there was a longer delay for the movements to register (my G-pro Wireless Superlight felt like a "cheaper" wireless mouse with that amount of input delay).
Re: Comparison Local Pc + Nvidia GeForce Now
Bro i got a titan x Pascal (similar to yours 1080), whats the point ti update vbios? And how to do it sir?afn7 wrote: ↑05 Aug 2022, 18:07Yes, I've been testing all day today. I can definitely say CSM + Legacy with MBR feels more comfortable and less floaty. No secure boot + TPM and I could play valorant. I'll stick with a legacy to test more. My theory is maybe some devices don't fully support UEFI so we end up having issues. Even tho I updated my GTX 1080 VBIOS and GOP. Also, latency moon shows less latency with this setup.Stimpy7314 wrote: ↑05 Aug 2022, 08:33Did it felt less floaty on legacy? I've been trying out legacy too and surprisingly it feels better tooafn7 wrote: ↑05 Aug 2022, 08:08So we can safe to say, GeForceNow kind of acts as a VPN? Because we are connecting the game server from another server.
Also yesterday, just of curiosity I installed windows 10(latest stock) with CSM+Legacy to MBR m2ssd. It seems more stable than UEFI+GPT. Still testing tho.
Gop? What does it means? Thanks in advance