Best gaming monitor if not using any blur reduction?

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Re: Best gaming monitor if not using any blur reduction?

Post by Q83Ia7ta » 22 Jul 2014, 16:08

rabidz7 wrote:No mods done: Sony FW900 CRT. Modded monitor: VG278HE with 240Hz PCB installed.
VG278HE with 240Hz PCB installed is abandoned. Author won't give instructions because NDA.

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Re: Best gaming monitor if not using any blur reduction?

Post by Chief Blur Buster » 24 Jul 2014, 12:39

There are other ways to do a 240Hz PCB for LCD displays, but it takes an incredibly smart person to develop these boards.

There may be an easier target. Lots of high end HDTVs are already running at 240Hz from the interpolation engine (fake frames generator). A modder can bypass this by driving it from a custom DisplayPort circuit board! No overclocking needed as the TCON is already 240Hz. Problem is the cost as many of these TVs cost over 1000 dollars each, making hacking feel risky.

The trick is verifying with a cheap highspeed camera (even a gopro 3, but I use a Casio EX ZR200 which is 1000fps for under 200bux off ebay) to verify its already interpolating 240 unique frames per second, rather than using black frame or strobing tricks. Some 240Hz TVs are actually 120Hz+blackframes. While other 240Hz TVs are advertised as "Clear Motion 960" TVs, they create 240 refreshes per second while using the scanning backlight to go to the "960" emulation. THIS is the type of TV that can be more easily hacked to true-240Hz computer refresh simply by developing a DisplayPort board that directly connects to its TCON. There would be far less color degradation on some of these TVs since these LCD panels were designed to resist color degradation at high Hz, by millions dollars of TV manufacturer engineering, more than the monitor industry. Problem is, this stock is expensive for hackers to buy.
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Re: Best gaming monitor if not using any blur reduction?

Post by Q83Ia7ta » 25 Jul 2014, 16:49

Chief Blur Buster wrote:There are other ways to do a 240Hz PCB for LCD displays, but it takes an incredibly smart person to develop these boards.

There may be an easier target. Lots of high end HDTVs are already running at 240Hz from the interpolation engine (fake frames generator). A modder can bypass this by driving it from a custom DisplayPort circuit board! No overclocking needed as the TCON is already 240Hz. Problem is the cost as many of these TVs cost over 1000 dollars each, making hacking feel risky.
Another variant is hack BenQ firmware (and replace TCON?).

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Re: Best gaming monitor if not using any blur reduction?

Post by ericl » 25 Jul 2014, 19:58

Can we start a movement or something to get 240hz screens? :)

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Re: Best gaming monitor if not using any blur reduction?

Post by Q83Ia7ta » 25 Jul 2014, 22:32

ericl wrote:Can we start a movement or something to get 240hz screens? :)
Only by community request to monitor vendors like BenQ, ASUS, AOC, IIyama, Phillips :D
But they need just sell their 144Hz and G-SYNC monitors at first. Much faster to get 240Hz screens from vendors is to ask some talented people to make boads to sell like cirthix did.
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Re: Best gaming monitor if not using any blur reduction?

Post by flood » 25 Jul 2014, 22:33

I'd prefer a movement to get rid of refresh rates that are multiples of 24 and 30

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Re: Best gaming monitor if not using any blur reduction?

Post by Q83Ia7ta » 25 Jul 2014, 22:34

flood wrote:I'd prefer a movement to get rid of refresh rates that are multiples of 24 and 30
What is so bad in refresh rates that are multiples of 24 and 30?

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Re: Best gaming monitor if not using any blur reduction?

Post by Edmond » 31 Jul 2014, 05:36

harrwang38 wrote: I am looking for the best 120/144hz gaming monitor that has the BEST COLORS and LOWEST INPUT LAG.
Well, if this is your criteria, then its an EASY answer.

You want the former best-in-slot monitor. Which is any of the Korean overclockable 1440p IPS monitors that ONLY HAS ONE dual-link DVI connection. And you can count on it overclocking to 100hz.

Recently this first place has been taken from this Korean panel by the Asus pg278q. You lose viewing angles, colors, good looking panel, BUT you gain gsync and motion blur reduction mode which need your game to have constant 100fps and cant be used with gsync.

These are the 2nd and 1st place monitors right now. We will probably have variable refresh rate IPS monitors by spring 2015, so this list will probably change then. Also, id say the 3rd place now belongs to the Sony FW900.

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Re: Best gaming monitor if not using any blur reduction?

Post by Chief Blur Buster » 31 Jul 2014, 20:45

Keep in mind there is some minor input lag in a QNIX panel. Very low but it is there. This may not be big enough to be a consideration, but it is worth keeping in mind if you are playing in the elite leagues. There is even reportedly more average lag with ULMB/LightBoost strobing than the lag in the QNIX. And some competitive players playing in the paid/sponsored leagues, even find strobing lag to be too much for them.
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