Rare/Electrical Issues Affecting Latency — Interference, EMI, EMF

[danbmx]

Im from Brazil too, have same issues, try everthng and nothing...
In cs 2 i play with 1ms and 400+fps and fells so much lag, desynch, heavy mouse... so much disadvantage (same on apex & csgo)
in the mornings its feels better, but never 100%
I think its server side, or some windows stuff

My config;
i7 12700k, rtx 3070ti, 240hz, z690, ddr5

Brazil too,

Did you buy the UPS? Do you live in an apartment? Is it 110V or 220V? If it's 220V, do you use one or two phases?

no UPS, I live in a house without grounding. 110v

[Anonymous271863]

Online UPS really reduces the input lag. Many professional players use it. I bought myself an online UPS a few months ago and it removed the input lag by 90%.
If online UPS does not help you, then it is not about electricity. So you have a high level of emi or something else.

would this UPS work for reducing the input lag? idk if it's online or not but it doesn't state that anywhere
it's called apc back-ups pro 1500

[delve]

Online UPS really reduces the input lag. Many professional players use it. I bought myself an online UPS a few months ago and it removed the input lag by 90%.
If online UPS does not help you, then it is not about electricity. So you have a high level of emi or something else.

would this UPS work for reducing the input lag? idk if it's online or not but it doesn't state that anywhere
it's called apc back-ups pro 1500

no, that one is line interactive.

[Chief Blur Buster]

Okay, I should remind everyone about the biggest pie slice in the infinite pie chart of options:

Fully proper isolating UPS power supplies are often pretty expensive. Good ones for data center racks can be well into four figures.

At a certain cost point, it's cheaper to just buy a giant LiFePo4 battery (e.g. cheap 12.8V 200AH with built-in BMS + get a cheap inverter) to battery-power your 500 watt gaming rig. And it usually fixes more external bad-electricity problems than even a good UPS will.

Basically build your dream UPS of clean electricity from scratch, and then unplug from your dirty power grid.

You can buy a large Jackery Power Station (or clone), many exist for between $1K-$3K all built. Or cobble together a 1000-3000 watt power station from scratch via YouTube videos. Google "how to build a lithium power station" if you can't afford a Jackery but can afford buiding your DIY power station $300-$600 kilowatt-hour-plus kilowatt-output-league lithium battery with built in battery management system (BMS) + charger + external high-quality inverter.

USD $279.99 battery + USD $59.99 inverter = Power Gaming Rig for 2-3 hours
You're your own power company for 2-3 hours, forget the dirty electricity stuff, forget wasting time troubleshooting...

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= USD $59.00
(12.8V 100aH = 12.8 x 100 = 1.28 kilowatt-hour capacity = can sustain 400 watts for 3 hours)
(now available for under $300 and can power an average RTX-powered desktop tower gaming PC rig for about 2.5 to 3 hours)
(120 volt 750 watt sinewave AC inverter not included -- but about $100-150 extra).
Search Term: "12 volt 100 ah lithium iron battery" on your amazon/ebay/favorite site

Okay, you need a battery charger too (I left that out), so you'll have to use a small charger overnight to refill your battery, but then you get 7000 recharge cycles in these new durable lithium-iron batteries. So 15 years of gaming offgrid 2-3 hours every night. These modern lithium iron batteries generally now have a built-in BMS system which makes it safe to attach an external voltage to these batteries -- much safer to charge these new lithium-iron batteries than an old car battery. Just use any old car battery charger, and call it a day.

So you see, for less than $400, you can power your gaming PC off a battery for about 2.5 to 3 hours, including your monitor and your Internet router (yes, you need to offgrid everything that touches the PC). Don't forget to isolate your Internet line too if you can, or preferably use fiber so no copper from outside world is touching your PC.

Add 50% cost in some countries, but these chinese kilowatt batteries are really cheap now -- absurdly so -- because of the EV adoption and grid scale batteries. The savings is now already passed to the consumer, so you can offgrid your PC for under $500!

Offgriding via a battery certainly won't solve adjacent interference (e.g. over-the-air interference from nearby large motors, like emitting from an old apartment mechanical floor or an apartment room adjacent to a laundry room of very old drying machines -- old motors can emit a lot of inteference, for example).

But it will solve dirty electric grid by becoming your own power company for your PC for under $1000.

The offgriding solution is one of the easiest and biggest brute fix-all slices in the infinite power chart of possible EMI problem+solution combos. It is now a money cost typically less than the cost of the gaming PC+GPU rig that you bought, thanks to the giant kilowatt lithium-battery price drops. If it doesn't fix your problem, at least you know your EMI problem is probably one of those tiny-sliver slices that is hard to find / hard to solve.



So if a battery (for your PC + router + monitor) doesn't fix your problems, then you've got bigger interference troubleshooting ahead of you.

[Chief Blur Buster]

It's a cost-benefit decision, between affordability, convenience, etc.

It's now cheaper to become your own power company than to buy a $500 UPS.
A large online UPS with power conditioner can sometimes cost $1000+

As a Plan B, there's another option:

Offgridding PC on Battery for Under $400:
Be Your Own Power Company For Cheap -- 12.8V 100AH lithium-iron batteries

[internetexplorer4]

Hi guys, I'm from Brazil. I am not encouraging anyone to stop looking for solutions. I'm a layman on the subject, but I've been researching this anomolo inputlag caused by electricity for years. in 2018-2019 the pc was perfect and very cool, but after 2019 it's all over. I tried 2 completely different pcs, different houses and nothing happened. Recently, after testing an online double conversion UPS with pure sine wave (I feel the battery play better with the equipment disconnected from the socket, but it doesn't come close to normal operation) it didn't work, not even a panamax power conditioner. I saw several people saying that a balanced theroidal transformer would solve the problem, so I decided to buy it and spent some money because I live in Brazil and for us it is a very high value. And it didn't solve anything. So guys, don't spend money for nothing until you have an explanation with factual evidence about the solution. I particularly give up playing for fun and competitively (which I did best and it was good). It really is impossible.

hi I'm from Brazil too, I've found where this interference is coming from (in my case) can you add me on discord? waaaa#8369

[InputLagger]

Hi guys, I'm from Brazil. I am not encouraging anyone to stop looking for solutions. I'm a layman on the subject, but I've been researching this anomolo inputlag caused by electricity for years. in 2018-2019 the pc was perfect and very cool, but after 2019 it's all over. I tried 2 completely different pcs, different houses and nothing happened. Recently, after testing an online double conversion UPS with pure sine wave (I feel the battery play better with the equipment disconnected from the socket, but it doesn't come close to normal operation) it didn't work, not even a panamax power conditioner. I saw several people saying that a balanced theroidal transformer would solve the problem, so I decided to buy it and spent some money because I live in Brazil and for us it is a very high value. And it didn't solve anything. So guys, don't spend money for nothing until you have an explanation with factual evidence about the solution. I particularly give up playing for fun and competitively (which I did best and it was good). It really is impossible.

hi I'm from Brazil too, I've found where this interference is coming from (in my case) can you add me on discord? waaaa#8369

Share this info for blurbusters public and googlers. Why do you need hide this in private conversations?

[Anonymous271863]

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[internetexplorer4]

Hi guys, I'm from Brazil. I am not encouraging anyone to stop looking for solutions. I'm a layman on the subject, but I've been researching this anomolo inputlag caused by electricity for years. in 2018-2019 the pc was perfect and very cool, but after 2019 it's all over. I tried 2 completely different pcs, different houses and nothing happened. Recently, after testing an online double conversion UPS with pure sine wave (I feel the battery play better with the equipment disconnected from the socket, but it doesn't come close to normal operation) it didn't work, not even a panamax power conditioner. I saw several people saying that a balanced theroidal transformer would solve the problem, so I decided to buy it and spent some money because I live in Brazil and for us it is a very high value. And it didn't solve anything. So guys, don't spend money for nothing until you have an explanation with factual evidence about the solution. I particularly give up playing for fun and competitively (which I did best and it was good). It really is impossible.

hi I'm from Brazil too, I've found where this interference is coming from (in my case) can you add me on discord? waaaa#8369

Share this info for blurbusters public and googlers. Why do you need hide this in private conversations?

I made a post explaining everything and they deleted, also it's good to have a deeper conversation with people that are in my country both because location and language, my english is not very good

[Sqnax17]

Hi guys, I'm from Brazil. I am not encouraging anyone to stop looking for solutions. I'm a layman on the subject, but I've been researching this anomolo inputlag caused by electricity for years. in 2018-2019 the pc was perfect and very cool, but after 2019 it's all over. I tried 2 completely different pcs, different houses and nothing happened. Recently, after testing an online double conversion UPS with pure sine wave (I feel the battery play better with the equipment disconnected from the socket, but it doesn't come close to normal operation) it didn't work, not even a panamax power conditioner. I saw several people saying that a balanced theroidal transformer would solve the problem, so I decided to buy it and spent some money because I live in Brazil and for us it is a very high value. And it didn't solve anything. So guys, don't spend money for nothing until you have an explanation with factual evidence about the solution. I particularly give up playing for fun and competitively (which I did best and it was good). It really is impossible.

Interesting updates guys, recently in my neighborhood a transformer shorted out and with that burned some equipment in some houses. the electric company changed it for a new one, and guess what, it improved a lot, but what is more interesting is that when i turn on the electric shower the iputlag disappears completely, the iron too but reduces it just a little. what they tell me. Soon I will call an electrician to measure everything and give me an opinion.