after 25 years his input lag gone...

[blackmagic]

He was live streaming on Twitch so i went on his stream and asked him how he managed to fix it, he responded that he didn't know, but he was having issues again. Albeit his English is not 100% so maybe I misunderstood him.

So something must have changed outside of his control and fixed the issue.

EDIT: Albeit watching his stream his inputs seemed fine, he was playing CS:GO.

yes this dudes input is much fine and even the clip above already proofs it all.


i can tell this all just by watching how easy his hitreg connects and by the fast and quick fire speed rate and the stable accurate spray leaving his weapon. it just works like good swiss clock. there no much weird bullshit happening or going on with his spray and hitreg...


he cleans 3/4 enemy with spectre in just some seconds out of his way...and the enemy dont even have much chance to to turn around and react to this. the sage tried and noticed that there some behind but failed to his proffesional hitreg spray...

and all this indicates that everything works to his favor in these matches and his KAD and SCORE difference compared to other players in these matches just proofs it all more again.


i saw already many many such similar moments with spectre "from behind moments" and it clearly BY FAR dont works for all players the same way...

and that is the huge advantage against disadvantage and most unfair bullshit...if you ask me.


i was first thinking that this all might be about just having very high FPS but then i went to youtube to find clips and players which play on good hardware and with almost same high FPS...

and guess what ? 9 out of 10 clips had rly bad and different hitreg compared to this dudes clip...even with FPS around 500/600 lol and there whole gameplay was just completely different than what this dude has in his room and especially in that one gameplay example above.

[dervu]

Remember, to get to such conclusions to you to have good amount of data, not just rely on couple of clips. In one clip there might be low rank, enemy might be tired or many other reasons.
I would only trust tests done in controlled envrionment.

I have never seen any real test with 1000fps cam done by anyone with even 1vs1 situation online where one player has this issue and other doesn't, then compared that to 1vs where other person also doesn't have this issue.

[axaro1]

yes this dudes input is much fine and even the clip above already proofs it all.


i can tell this all just by watching how easy his hitreg connects and by the fast and quick fire speed rate and the stable accurate spray leaving his weapon. it just works like good swiss clock. there no much weird bullshit happening or going on with his spray and hitreg...

you are jumping to conclusions based on a bunch of cherry picked clips that aren't even that impressive.

he cleans 3/4 enemy with spectre in just some seconds out of his way...and the enemy dont even have much chance to to turn around and react to this. the sage tried and noticed that there some behind but failed to his proffesional hitreg spray...

Are you talking about the first clip? the enemies literally walked into his crosshair after he locked on the first guy...

Remember, to get to such conclusions to you to have good amount of data, not just rely on couple of clips. In one clip there might be low rank, enemy might be tired or many other reasons.
I would only trust tests done in controlled envrionment.

I have never seen any real test with 1000fps cam done by anyone with even 1vs1 situation online where one player has this issue and other doesn't, then compared that to 1vs where other person also doesn't have this issue.

pretty much ^this

[blackmagic]

cherry picking


i can upload my 24h gameplay video and for some reason i dont get such cherry moments here...for 24/7 tryharding and practice and already warmed up...all day not once a cherry moment or only one or two but with very much random luck.

in similar situation i would kill only 1 or max 2 enemy from behind with spectre and never so easy all 4 like this dude...


so its not rly about cherry picking at all and has nothing to do with this...you completely failed to understand the point of all this.


there exist players that manage to do 1 ace with very much luck and tryhard in like 10 matches or even more and there exist players which do easy aces like every match they play or even many ace in just one match and its completely normal gameplay day routine for them...


that what my talk is about and you are talking about some cherry bullshit to me.


im talking about the hitreg or whatever advantage/disadvantage difference that players experience and yes you can perform like this dude and have similar good moments...the main point is...how often you can repeat these and have such good cherry moments compared to players that have almost every match such moments and for some still unknown reason its more easy for them to perform these and do this cherry moments from there location and room ? if you gonna compare to other players that just has not such privilege and luck...for some reason...



so pls stop talk about cherry picking guys.
go down the rabbit hole and start to look at things more global and not only from your own experience and the bubble you living in...

[axaro1]

cherry picking


i can upload my 24h gameplay video and for some reason i dont get such cherry moments here...for 24/7 tryharding and practice and already warmed up...all day not once a cherry moment or only one or two but with very much random luck.

in similar situation i would kill only 1 or max 2 enemy from behind with spectre and never so easy all 4 like this dude...


so its not rly about cherry picking at all and has nothing to do with this...you completely failed to understand the point of all this.


there exist players that manage to do 1 ace with very much luck and tryhard in like 10 matches or even more and there exist players which do easy aces like every match they play or even many ace in just one match and its completely normal gameplay day routine for them...


that what my talk is about and you are talking about some cherry bullshit to me.

If you are already on a debloated windows installation/custom windows OS you should probably invest your time into aim training instead of looking for the final obscure tweak that you believe will fix every issue you have with games.

Work on your aim, crosshair placement (which is clearly something done correctly in the video that you posted), practice something like Voltaic aim routines in Aimlab/Kovaak.
Yes, the enemies walked right into his crosshair when he got a triple with the spectre but he wouldn't have got the triple without approaching the angle with good crosshair positioning, as you can see from the video he also tend to aim slightly below enemies heads so that he can headshot just by letting the recoil pattern do its thing. I genuinely doubt that you approach the game with the same level of awareness, feel free to share your gameplay.

If you are already on a debloated system it's extremely unlikely that there's some "magic tweak" that can turn your gameplay into a completely different level.

im talking about the hitreg or whatever advantage/disadvantage difference that players experience and yes you can perform like this dude and have similar good moments...the main point is...how often you can repeat these and have such good cherry moments compared to players that have almost every match such moments and for some still unknown reason its more easy for them to perform these and do this cherry moments from there location and room ? if you gonna compare to other players that just has not such privilege and luck...for some reason...

Hitregs/desync issues are something that has been correctly adressed by Riot Games increasing simulation tick rate to 128hz.
There aren't many other games capable of running such high tick rates with a good optimized game engine which also benefit from a high quality mouse API.

They also adressed walking/shooting spread to mitigate peeker advantage. If your ping is stable I don't see what could be the issue.

[caponew0w]

cherry picking


i can upload my 24h gameplay video and for some reason i dont get such cherry moments here...for 24/7 tryharding and practice and already warmed up...all day not once a cherry moment or only one or two but with very much random luck.

in similar situation i would kill only 1 or max 2 enemy from behind with spectre and never so easy all 4 like this dude...


so its not rly about cherry picking at all and has nothing to do with this...you completely failed to understand the point of all this.


there exist players that manage to do 1 ace with very much luck and tryhard in like 10 matches or even more and there exist players which do easy aces like every match they play or even many ace in just one match and its completely normal gameplay day routine for them...


that what my talk is about and you are talking about some cherry bullshit to me.

If you are already on a debloated windows installation/custom windows OS you should probably invest your time into aim training instead of looking for the final obscure tweak that you believe will fix every issue you have with games.

Work on your aim, crosshair placement (which is clearly something done correctly in the video that you posted), practice something like Voltaic aim routines in Aimlab/Kovaak.
Yes, the enemies walked right into his crosshair when he got a triple with the spectre but he wouldn't have got the triple without approaching the angle with good crosshair positioning, as you can see from the video he also tend to aim slightly below enemies heads so that he can headshot just by letting the recoil pattern do its thing. I genuinely doubt that you approach the game with the same level of awareness, feel free to share your gameplay.

If you are already on a debloated system it's extremely unlikely that there's some "magic tweak" that can turn your gameplay into a completely different level.

im talking about the hitreg or whatever advantage/disadvantage difference that players experience and yes you can perform like this dude and have similar good moments...the main point is...how often you can repeat these and have such good cherry moments compared to players that have almost every match such moments and for some still unknown reason its more easy for them to perform these and do this cherry moments from there location and room ? if you gonna compare to other players that just has not such privilege and luck...for some reason...

Hitregs/desync issues are something that has been correctly adressed by Riot Games increasing simulation tick rate to 128hz.
There aren't many other games capable of running such high tick rates with a good optimized game engine which also benefit from a high quality mouse API.

They also adressed walking/shooting spread to mitigate peeker advantage. If your ping is stable I don't see what could be the issue.

You are talking like everyone's game behaves the same. This is not the case. So far I strongly agree with blackmagic, but taking in consideration that the problem is not within the games, but more client sided due to electricity and/or internet.
Fun part starts at 00:33, make sure not to blink. (stable 400+ fps, no packetloss, no ping spikes)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4W4PBL6V2Y

[blackmagic]

cherry picking


i can upload my 24h gameplay video and for some reason i dont get such cherry moments here...for 24/7 tryharding and practice and already warmed up...all day not once a cherry moment or only one or two but with very much random luck.

in similar situation i would kill only 1 or max 2 enemy from behind with spectre and never so easy all 4 like this dude...


so its not rly about cherry picking at all and has nothing to do with this...you completely failed to understand the point of all this.


there exist players that manage to do 1 ace with very much luck and tryhard in like 10 matches or even more and there exist players which do easy aces like every match they play or even many ace in just one match and its completely normal gameplay day routine for them...


that what my talk is about and you are talking about some cherry bullshit to me.

If you are already on a debloated windows installation/custom windows OS you should probably invest your time into aim training instead of looking for the final obscure tweak that you believe will fix every issue you have with games.

Work on your aim, crosshair placement (which is clearly something done correctly in the video that you posted), practice something like Voltaic aim routines in Aimlab/Kovaak.
Yes, the enemies walked right into his crosshair when he got a triple with the spectre but he wouldn't have got the triple without approaching the angle with good crosshair positioning, as you can see from the video he also tend to aim slightly below enemies heads so that he can headshot just by letting the recoil pattern do its thing. I genuinely doubt that you approach the game with the same level of awareness, feel free to share your gameplay.

If you are already on a debloated system it's extremely unlikely that there's some "magic tweak" that can turn your gameplay into a completely different level.

im talking about the hitreg or whatever advantage/disadvantage difference that players experience and yes you can perform like this dude and have similar good moments...the main point is...how often you can repeat these and have such good cherry moments compared to players that have almost every match such moments and for some still unknown reason its more easy for them to perform these and do this cherry moments from there location and room ? if you gonna compare to other players that just has not such privilege and luck...for some reason...

Hitregs/desync issues are something that has been correctly adressed by Riot Games increasing simulation tick rate to 128hz.
There aren't many other games capable of running such high tick rates with a good optimized game engine which also benefit from a high quality mouse API.

They also adressed walking/shooting spread to mitigate peeker advantage. If your ping is stable I don't see what could be the issue.

You are talking like everyone's game behaves the same. This is not the case. So far I strongly agree with blackmagic, but taking in consideration that the problem is not within the games, but more client sided due to electricity and/or internet.
Fun part starts at 00:33, make sure not to blink. (stable 400+ fps, no packetloss, no ping spikes)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4W4PBL6V2Y

i have these moments too 1:27 and noticed them often here and it blows every time my mind...you try to kill some and then a random player just steals the kill from you like its normal of the world but its clearly not...and this just another good proof that something very wrong happens and you feel like full desynced and off match on your side while some other players in that one match getting full advantage by that and just rekt you like some average bot...round for round...

your aim perfect on head and you do everything right in time but your kill still gets robbed by that "one other advantage player" which probably dont experience such shit much on his side than you experience in that one deathmatch...as an example and in theory.


and that is the most unfair bullshit but there many more worse things happens and going on than that. which even more noticeable..

btw here everything stable too...no lags, no loss...constant 20ms ping...all looks like normal but it is clearly not as soon when i join a match and start see all the bullshit that happens infront of my face.

[caponew0w]

cherry picking


i can upload my 24h gameplay video and for some reason i dont get such cherry moments here...for 24/7 tryharding and practice and already warmed up...all day not once a cherry moment or only one or two but with very much random luck.

in similar situation i would kill only 1 or max 2 enemy from behind with spectre and never so easy all 4 like this dude...


so its not rly about cherry picking at all and has nothing to do with this...you completely failed to understand the point of all this.


there exist players that manage to do 1 ace with very much luck and tryhard in like 10 matches or even more and there exist players which do easy aces like every match they play or even many ace in just one match and its completely normal gameplay day routine for them...


that what my talk is about and you are talking about some cherry bullshit to me.

If you are already on a debloated windows installation/custom windows OS you should probably invest your time into aim training instead of looking for the final obscure tweak that you believe will fix every issue you have with games.

Work on your aim, crosshair placement (which is clearly something done correctly in the video that you posted), practice something like Voltaic aim routines in Aimlab/Kovaak.
Yes, the enemies walked right into his crosshair when he got a triple with the spectre but he wouldn't have got the triple without approaching the angle with good crosshair positioning, as you can see from the video he also tend to aim slightly below enemies heads so that he can headshot just by letting the recoil pattern do its thing. I genuinely doubt that you approach the game with the same level of awareness, feel free to share your gameplay.

If you are already on a debloated system it's extremely unlikely that there's some "magic tweak" that can turn your gameplay into a completely different level.

im talking about the hitreg or whatever advantage/disadvantage difference that players experience and yes you can perform like this dude and have similar good moments...the main point is...how often you can repeat these and have such good cherry moments compared to players that have almost every match such moments and for some still unknown reason its more easy for them to perform these and do this cherry moments from there location and room ? if you gonna compare to other players that just has not such privilege and luck...for some reason...

Hitregs/desync issues are something that has been correctly adressed by Riot Games increasing simulation tick rate to 128hz.
There aren't many other games capable of running such high tick rates with a good optimized game engine which also benefit from a high quality mouse API.

They also adressed walking/shooting spread to mitigate peeker advantage. If your ping is stable I don't see what could be the issue.

You are talking like everyone's game behaves the same. This is not the case. So far I strongly agree with blackmagic, but taking in consideration that the problem is not within the games, but more client sided due to electricity and/or internet.
Fun part starts at 00:33, make sure not to blink. (stable 400+ fps, no packetloss, no ping spikes)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4W4PBL6V2Y

i have these moments too 1:27 and noticed them often here and it blows every time my mind...you try to kill some and then a random player steals the kill from you like its normal of the world but its clearly not...and this just another good proof that something very wrong happens and you feel like full desynced and off match on your side while some other players in that one match getting full advantage by that and just rekt you like some average bot...round for round...

you just see all the blood and your aim perfect on head and you do everything right but your kill still gets robbed by that "one other player" which probably dont experience such shit much on his side than you experience in that one deathmatch...as an example and in theory.

and that is the most unfair bullshit but there many more worse things happens and going on than that. which even more noticeable...

here everything stable too...no lags, no loss...constant 20ms ping...

The 1:27 moment is one of the okay ones for me. At the end of the video you can see what really is the most difficult part for me, last couple of clips. I changed location in another city and this solved the input lag and stutters for me, but the hitreg is very inconsistent. The desync crippled in slowly from decent to worst but not as worst as before. Tested on gaming laptop as well with the same result. This video is from my old location. Is painfull to watch others playing in normal conditions and even more painfull to see people saying to get good and train aim.

[blackmagic]

If you are already on a debloated windows installation/custom windows OS you should probably invest your time into aim training instead of looking for the final obscure tweak that you believe will fix every issue you have with games.

Work on your aim, crosshair placement (which is clearly something done correctly in the video that you posted), practice something like Voltaic aim routines in Aimlab/Kovaak.
Yes, the enemies walked right into his crosshair when he got a triple with the spectre but he wouldn't have got the triple without approaching the angle with good crosshair positioning, as you can see from the video he also tend to aim slightly below enemies heads so that he can headshot just by letting the recoil pattern do its thing. I genuinely doubt that you approach the game with the same level of awareness, feel free to share your gameplay.

If you are already on a debloated system it's extremely unlikely that there's some "magic tweak" that can turn your gameplay into a completely different level.



Hitregs/desync issues are something that has been correctly adressed by Riot Games increasing simulation tick rate to 128hz.
There aren't many other games capable of running such high tick rates with a good optimized game engine which also benefit from a high quality mouse API.

They also adressed walking/shooting spread to mitigate peeker advantage. If your ping is stable I don't see what could be the issue.

You are talking like everyone's game behaves the same. This is not the case. So far I strongly agree with blackmagic, but taking in consideration that the problem is not within the games, but more client sided due to electricity and/or internet.
Fun part starts at 00:33, make sure not to blink. (stable 400+ fps, no packetloss, no ping spikes)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4W4PBL6V2Y

i have these moments too 1:27 and noticed them often here and it blows every time my mind...you try to kill some and then a random player steals the kill from you like its normal of the world but its clearly not...and this just another good proof that something very wrong happens and you feel like full desynced and off match on your side while some other players in that one match getting full advantage by that and just rekt you like some average bot...round for round...

you just see all the blood and your aim perfect on head and you do everything right but your kill still gets robbed by that "one other player" which probably dont experience such shit much on his side than you experience in that one deathmatch...as an example and in theory.

and that is the most unfair bullshit but there many more worse things happens and going on than that. which even more noticeable...

here everything stable too...no lags, no loss...constant 20ms ping...

The 1:27 moment is one of the okay ones for me. At the end of the video you can see what really is the most difficult part for me, last couple of clips. I changed location in another city and this solved the input lag and stutters for me, but the hitreg is very inconsistent. The desync crippled in slowly from decent to worst but not as worst as before. Tested on gaming laptop as well with the same result. This video is from my old location. Is painfull to watch others playing in normal conditions and even more painfull to see people saying to get good and train aim.

idk..normally you should get that one kill at 1:27. in normal world...with advantage you know what i mean


1:27 is an good indicator for people that want know if something wrong or not with there game...if such moments happens often too you...then you can be sure that your gameplay experience are fucked and rigged and you will go tryhard in next comp match and probably still lose...


but your video is very good example overall and shows everything...all the differences in one clip and how the game can behave and how it should not behave...or how it behaves for some players which still dont realize all this things and still believe that this all normal or just skill issues and such people probably gonna never awake up...


and if there still people that dont believe in all this or which still talking about just cherry picking or ping differences and ping spikes...then idk which clip can open there eyes and help to understand what we are talking about here...


there already many proofs out there and the experience is clearly not same for all...very far not same...there is a very huge gap between all the experiences....

and it has nothing to do with 1.ping and even not with packetloss...and for sure its not about 2. cherry picking or just bad fails moments


its completely something else going on behind the scenes....

[caponew0w]

You are talking like everyone's game behaves the same. This is not the case. So far I strongly agree with blackmagic, but taking in consideration that the problem is not within the games, but more client sided due to electricity and/or internet.
Fun part starts at 00:33, make sure not to blink. (stable 400+ fps, no packetloss, no ping spikes)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4W4PBL6V2Y

i have these moments too 1:27 and noticed them often here and it blows every time my mind...you try to kill some and then a random player steals the kill from you like its normal of the world but its clearly not...and this just another good proof that something very wrong happens and you feel like full desynced and off match on your side while some other players in that one match getting full advantage by that and just rekt you like some average bot...round for round...

you just see all the blood and your aim perfect on head and you do everything right but your kill still gets robbed by that "one other player" which probably dont experience such shit much on his side than you experience in that one deathmatch...as an example and in theory.

and that is the most unfair bullshit but there many more worse things happens and going on than that. which even more noticeable...

here everything stable too...no lags, no loss...constant 20ms ping...

The 1:27 moment is one of the okay ones for me. At the end of the video you can see what really is the most difficult part for me, last couple of clips. I changed location in another city and this solved the input lag and stutters for me, but the hitreg is very inconsistent. The desync crippled in slowly from decent to worst but not as worst as before. Tested on gaming laptop as well with the same result. This video is from my old location. Is painfull to watch others playing in normal conditions and even more painfull to see people saying to get good and train aim.

idk..normally you should get that one kill at 1:27. in normal world...with advantage you know what i mean


1:27 is an good indicator for people that want know if something wrong or not with there game...if such moments happens often too you...then you can be sure that your gameplay experience are fucked and rigged and you will go tryhard in next comp match and probably still lose...


but your video is very good example overall and shows everything...all the differences in one clip and how the game can behave and how it should not behave...or how it behaves for some players which still dont realize all this things and still believe that this all normal or just skill issues and such people probably gonna never awake up...


and if there still people that dont believe in all this or which still talking about just cherry picking or ping differences and ping spikes...then idk which clip can open there eyes and help to understand what we are talking about here...


there already many proofs out there and the experience is clearly not same for all...very far not same...there is a very huge gap between all the experiences....

and it has nothing to do with 1.ping and even not with packetloss...and for sure its not about 2. cherry picking or just bad fails moments


its completely something else going on behind the scenes....

To highlight the issue even more, I will post here a csgo video from my old location. I shortly described my story some weeks ago in the EMI forum but I think more people frecvent this one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DHLaVU00A0

Maybe who will see this will understand not to blame teammates when they having a bad game.
blackmagic I tried to PM you but it does not work, would like to get in touch with you if you agree. Justinian#7542 on discord. Thanks.