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Re: PC- is affected with 230V -TEST
Posted: 28 Jun 2022, 08:29
by wadge
pox02 wrote: ↑28 Jun 2022, 05:02
wadge wrote: ↑27 Jun 2022, 15:32
pox02 wrote: ↑27 Jun 2022, 12:31
wadge wrote: ↑27 Jun 2022, 11:23
Or is it possible to use a converter like this one :
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07BG983Y5? ... th=1&psc=1 to convert 220v to 110v and then use something to regulate the frequency like a VFD :
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Fictory-Motor- ... NrPXRydWU= not sure how to wire the vfd as it is single phase to 3 phase
I also ordered a small device to check the frequency that comes to my wall outlet to see if there is a significant variation or not.
From what i read online, old hardware might have been sensitive to ac frequency but maybe modern hardware with crystal clock aren't...
To me it must be something going out of sync/clock as the first game of the day is always on point (i mean when i start the pc and it was shut down for a while) and then it deterior...
u are correct most psus sensitive to 230v/50hz because most of them build on 120v/60hz
good video why 50hz worse on europe
i suggest get power station with external batteries u get best of both worlds 120v/60hz + able to charge the batteries with 230v/50hz u can look at " ego power station"
Thats something i had i mind but i saw a post from a guy on this forum who said power station didn't help... and it's not cheap, it's around 1000€ for a good one
hes power station build internally i never will go on that path if i was him external is much better
You have a link of one power station in particular ?
Re: PC- is affected with 230V -TEST
Posted: 28 Jun 2022, 19:15
by pox02
wadge wrote: ↑28 Jun 2022, 08:29
pox02 wrote: ↑28 Jun 2022, 05:02
wadge wrote: ↑27 Jun 2022, 15:32
pox02 wrote: ↑27 Jun 2022, 12:31
u are correct most psus sensitive to 230v/50hz because most of them build on 120v/60hz
good video why 50hz worse on europe
i suggest get power station with external batteries u get best of both worlds 120v/60hz + able to charge the batteries with 230v/50hz u can look at " ego power station"
Thats something i had i mind but i saw a post from a guy on this forum who said power station didn't help... and it's not cheap, it's around 1000€ for a good one
hes power station build internally i never will go on that path if i was him external is much better
You have a link of one power station in particular ?
EGO Power+ PST3040 google ch5500e charger try to found on your location 12ah/10ah batteries cause impossible to ship them IATA law BA6720T/BA5600T
Re: PC- is affected with 230V -TEST
Posted: 29 Jun 2022, 09:05
by wadge
Well ok; i read not so good review about it regarding the autonomy...
What is your theory behind that :
?
Re: PC- is affected with 230V -TEST
Posted: 01 Jul 2022, 05:29
by Eonds
wadge wrote: ↑27 Jun 2022, 16:05
Thatweirdinputlag wrote: ↑27 Jun 2022, 15:40
Didn't even realize how much AC power can effect a game. 20% slower is actually insane! Then again, any sort of power passing after the PSU is purely DC "Direct Current" in the form of 3.3V, 5V and 12V. Those go through separate rails and do not have a frequency like Alternating Current, their frequency is actually 0 since the current is always on at any given time. All monitors also have power supplies that also transforms the AC into DC.
Just as a side note, a lot of the top tier teams in the ESports industry specially in triple A titles are EU teams, and I can guarantee you on that high level of skill and competitiveness, they wouldn't have been able to make it by being 20% slower.
Thats also true but i'm convince something is altering the way our pc is supposed to work properly
And therefore i also came on a different supposition, at the end what rules our pc are those clocks build in it called crystal oscillators. I found an interesting article about temperature affecting the way they are working and there is other culprit (voltages, rfi and so on)
here is the link :
https://www.electronicdesign.com/techno ... n-crystals
I'm sure we can all regroup our knowledge and finally find what is causing all this mess !
Windows actually accounts for offsets in frequency automatically. If you want to learn more I suggest reading this
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/window ... ime-stamps
Re: PC- is affected with 230V -TEST
Posted: 03 Jul 2022, 17:28
by pox02
wadge wrote: ↑26 Jun 2022, 14:40
g00d8y3 wrote: ↑25 Jun 2022, 18:16
Someone should try 60hz 120/110v voltage while gaming i guess its a fix.
You know if the 220v/110v converters also convert 50hz to 60hz ?
https://www.220-electronics.com/power-x ... black.html 
Re: PC- is affected with 230V -TEST
Posted: 06 Jul 2022, 15:36
by Chief Blur Buster
Sometimes it's the PSU's fault in producing more EMI with a certain voltage (120V versus 240V or vice-versa).
Cheap chinese power supplies are more problematic than high-end brand-name power supplies. Typically this is not always fixable via an external power station (e.g. lithium batteries).
Please be noted that PSU-based interference is extremely hard to diagnose. Even switching voltages isn't guaranteed.
pox02 wrote: ↑27 Jun 2022, 12:31
u are correct most psus sensitive to 230v/50hz because most of them build on 120v/60hz
good video why 50hz worse on europe
i suggest get power station with external batteries u get best of both worlds 120v/60hz + able to charge the batteries with 230v/50hz u can look at " ego power station"
Just one caveat, the video doesn't explain the OP's problem.
This was more of a problem back in the analog days when you were stuck with 50Hz or 60Hz considerations. Consoles could only do one refresh rate back in those days -- and VSYNC ON during PAL runniing at 50fps vs 60fps would not affect a normal computer GPU which can run refresh rates decoupled from the mains frequency.
It's a useful datapoint to explain Europe vs US problem, but doesn't explain the OP's problem.