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Re: After all these years and still no fix for this input lag and desync :(

Posted: 17 Nov 2024, 02:19
by emgee
Yep this issue is absolutely fucked. I have all the same symptoms you described and have tried just about everything I can think of/has been suggested to me (even some of the more out there suggestions/ideas) with only temporary relief. At this point I'm probably in the camp of it having to be us/our bodies/some common habit. As illogical as that seems I feel like every other possible cause has been eliminated at this point. I've been to LAN tournaments and used pcs set up at the venue with their peripherals and still had the issue while I can look over at the person playing next to me and see that their game is perfectly smooth. It makes absolutely no sense but it is just how it is.

In regard to the breathing stuff, I do also have some breathing issues and use a cpap machine to sleep despite not being overweight at all. I tried using the cpap machine while gaming just out of curiosity but it didn't help. I would be careful about breathing too deep and fast though as you could hyperventilate :P

Maybe someone could take this issue to a university for investigation or maybe we could make up a really in depth survey to find some common cause? I don't really know what else can be done tbh as I also lack the scientific knowledge to solve such an evasive and unusual problem. I just check here every so often hoping someone else has figured out a solution :(

Re: After all these years and still no fix for this input lag and desync :(

Posted: 17 Nov 2024, 10:52
by Smokq
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Re: After all these years and still no fix for this input lag and desync :(

Posted: 17 Nov 2024, 11:34
by simon
I think the fact that there still is no solution should force people to think deeper. I think it is not possible for all players to have ''the right'' game. That's why there is no permanent solution. The way I've observed it work is when you have the godlike game, it comes at a cost of some other player on the opposite team. It's like a limited resource that you can somehow pull to your side causing others to then suffer. The problem seems to be local but I believe it actually affects the server as well. There are too many variables but when you install a new Windows and that immediately gives you a better game then how can this be related to breathing? I've had players tell me that when I join the game, their character slows down etc. It has also happened to me when some other player joins and they would dominate the game by a mile. You'll just feel stuck and as if the hitbox around you gets larger. You are big and slow and the other guy is small and fast.
I also wrote a topic about two computers syncing up on one circuit. If something is done in one, say a new Windows install, it will affect the gameplay on the other computer too.

Re: After all these years and still no fix for this input lag and desync :(

Posted: 17 Nov 2024, 12:36
by Smokq
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Re: After all these years and still no fix for this input lag and desync :(

Posted: 17 Nov 2024, 19:06
by donktuman
Smokq wrote:
17 Nov 2024, 10:52
its crazy how many of us have breathing issues and have this cursed input lag, so what I want is all of you to try this. (Is a way to measure your breathing condition).

How to Check Your Control Pause (CP):

Sit down and relax. Breathe normally for a minute.

Breathe out gently (don’t force it), then pinch your nose to hold your breath. Don’t take a big breath in before this—just exhale normally.

Count how many seconds you can hold your breath until you feel like you need to breathe again.

When you feel that urge, let go of your nose and breathe normally.

The number of seconds you held your breath is your CP.

What It Means
Less than 10 seconds: Your breathing might need work.
15-25 seconds: You’re doing okay but could improve.
Over 40 seconds: Great breathing!
Try it and see how you score.

In my case I hyperventilate and I have something weird called air hunger (u can search for it) anyways we dont need to have the exact same breathing problem but I think we all have bad breathing patterns, can you guys tell your score? mine is like 10-13 and my friends with no input lag have like 40 (idk why my score is so low, I legit can do exercise perfectly xd) but basically it means that your ability to tolerate low levels of carbon dioxide (CO₂) in your body is bad

I've ask chat gpt and he said this:
Your Control Pause (CP) could be affecting your input lag because of how your breathing impacts your nervous system and the signals your body sends to electronic devices.

Here’s why:

Nervous system and breathing: The way you breathe, especially if it’s shallow or fast, affects your nervous system. When you have a low CP, your body is often in a "fight or flight" state, which increases the activation of the sympathetic nervous system (the one that prepares you for action). This can cause more interference with electronic devices because your nervous system isn't balanced.

Oxygenation and motor control: More efficient breathing (with a higher CP) means your body is better oxygenated and less stressed. This can improve your focus, coordination, and motor control, which could help reduce input lag when gaming or using devices. If your breathing isn’t efficient, your body may not be in an optimal state to control your movements, which increases input lag.

Electrical interference: Although this is more complex, your breathing could generate slight changes in your body’s electric field. If your breathing is irregular or feels like “hyperventilation,” your body might create more electromagnetic interference, affecting your devices.
I can hold for about 1min 30 seconds and i still have this issue. I also run a lot train for marathons and shit. I have low resting heart rate which indicates i have decent level of fitness. and i still suffer from this issue :))))))

Re: After all these years and still no fix for this input lag and desync :(

Posted: 17 Nov 2024, 19:42
by Smokq
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Re: After all these years and still no fix for this input lag and desync :(

Posted: 17 Nov 2024, 23:14
by PuzzledLag
simon wrote:
17 Nov 2024, 11:34
I think the fact that there still is no solution should force people to think deeper. I think it is not possible for all players to have ''the right'' game. That's why there is no permanent solution. The way I've observed it work is when you have the godlike game, it comes at a cost of some other player on the opposite team. It's like a limited resource that you can somehow pull to your side causing others to then suffer. The problem seems to be local but I believe it actually affects the server as well. There are too many variables but when you install a new Windows and that immediately gives you a better game then how can this be related to breathing? I've had players tell me that when I join the game, their character slows down etc. It has also happened to me when some other player joins and they would dominate the game by a mile. You'll just feel stuck and as if the hitbox around you gets larger. You are big and slow and the other guy is small and fast.
I also wrote a topic about two computers syncing up on one circuit. If something is done in one, say a new Windows install, it will affect the gameplay on the other computer too.

U are absolutely right about this. I’ve realized that when my game is working correctly, that I’m really really hard to hit. I can almost get out of any situation even over peeking with ease. Feel like I’m in the matrix.

So with that being said; when I’m on the other side of this problem, it’s almost impossible to hit other people, and vice versa their aim assist against me is amazingly strong and easy to kill me. So u are correct about a few things i can 100% agree that I’ve noticed this too

Re: After all these years and still no fix for this input lag and desync :(

Posted: 18 Nov 2024, 07:26
by simon
Glad we're on the same page. This topic would gain so much more traction if people could see past themselves. What I mean by this is when their game is desynced and not running right then it's not them, it's a million things wrong - okay, fair enough. But when the game is running smoothly and they're pwning, then it's their skill and the game should be like that. But what if it's the same phenomenon that either allows you to make kills and be unhittable and fast while your enemies stand no chance, or it makes you an easy target for the enemies with the desync and all that stuff. Once you see this not only for yourself but for others too when they can't get any kills and you're having a blast then it changes how you see every fps game. There are some back and forth really balanced rounds that seem to be normal/neutral but it appears to me there's always some advantage factor other than skill.
Once you get this far with your thought process then you will wonder how much does skill really matter? How much does expensive gaming equipment really matter? I'm not saying either makes no difference but there is a line where the game itself starts limiting your abilities for some reason.
Just looking for the truth and I really can't find much discussion about it that is legit truth seeking, not someone trying to sell you something for attention.

Re: After all these years and still no fix for this input lag and desync :(

Posted: 19 Nov 2024, 08:21
by themagic
simon wrote:
18 Nov 2024, 07:26
Glad we're on the same page. This topic would gain so much more traction if people could see past themselves. What I mean by this is when their game is desynced and not running right then it's not them, it's a million things wrong - okay, fair enough. But when the game is running smoothly and they're pwning, then it's their skill and the game should be like that. But what if it's the same phenomenon that either allows you to make kills and be unhittable and fast while your enemies stand no chance, or it makes you an easy target for the enemies with the desync and all that stuff. Once you see this not only for yourself but for others too when they can't get any kills and you're having a blast then it changes how you see every fps game. There are some back and forth really balanced rounds that seem to be normal/neutral but it appears to me there's always some advantage factor other than skill.
Once you get this far with your thought process then you will wonder how much does skill really matter? How much does expensive gaming equipment really matter? I'm not saying either makes no difference but there is a line where the game itself starts limiting your abilities for some reason.
Just looking for the truth and I really can't find much discussion about it that is legit truth seeking, not someone trying to sell you something for attention.

Look at Call of Duty and what happens there...I stopped playing this game long ago but the experience some players describe is same what i experience in games like CS2, Valorant and started with Black Squad some years ago here and even in Rocket League i noticed that something happens with my Car and i'm unable to control it like before in the matches or the FIFA thing where players feel that for some reason the Players running slow on the Field and like there is huge latency and input lag and you start losing cause of that shit and getting goal by goal scored on your side and you just can't do nothing against that shit and you start to feel that things are completely unfair on your side from that point on...



Nah fuck this all shit but i already saw everything and i know for sure now that Developers doing there dirty things too and are to blame too and it's not only about providers and servers quality and ping shit talk differences...

Call of duty is the best proof for all the shit is going on today but it's sad that many Players just accept all the shit and don't react or even keep defend all this System and how things going on and they keep call that Esports and Fairplay...that is just the most disturbing thing about that all and the Online Gaming today at all.

If that is what Esports is...then we lost and it can be rigged and depends on luck and location where you living. And by this chance you have more LUCK to win in Lotto than to become an Pro Player who gonna earn some Money with that today or some day...

And that is the most fucked up Thing today and everything...some gonna understand and others will give a fuck and call me as an delusional and retarded but i don't give a fuck more. But i can imagine how things are fucked up in this World and everything that happens today just proofs and proofs more that i am not the Crazy one...But this World is and many many People who agree and keep support such things and act like everything Fair and Fun and Skill about. :!:

Re: After all these years and still no fix for this input lag and desync :(

Posted: 19 Nov 2024, 15:35
by Mugabi
Windows reinstall or when u first start your pc is where error correction algorithms aren't as activated as much as when you play csgo for more than 20 minutes or hours. So you get the smoothest experience in those moments, changing settings and bios also does the same thing, they reset hardware I coded error correction protocols.

What trigger these protocols? It's your body tense energy (biofield), which is related toyour mood, quality of life and how tense you are as a person. If you carefully notice, the game become really laggy in that moment you want to kill/is in gun fight because you are very shaky /tense, this causes your biofield to heighten alot and affect mouse /keyboard and net connection.

Breathing affects/regulates this chi energy. It only affects it and change it.

Try to go to the gym before you play, take a shower, do prayers to relax and take propranolol at 30 MG to have no race heart when you play and don't put any pressure on mouse while you use it. You will see there is alot less lag than beforez