Ground fault or something else

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Rallaz
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Re: Ground fault or something else

Post by Rallaz » 17 Jun 2025, 11:29

Slender wrote:
17 Jun 2025, 02:21
Inputlagguy wrote:
16 Jun 2025, 21:14
Rallaz wrote:
16 Jun 2025, 04:29
Inputlagguy wrote:
13 Jun 2025, 00:26
Yep. I’ve noticed static/grounding directly affect my gameplay many many times.

Playing with socks and shoes on vs barefoot makes a difference. Touching the monitor sometimes puts it in god mode, absolutely no desync and buttery smooth gameplay.
Putting down the controller for 10-15 seconds and picking it back up seems like it simply resets the charge and gives u better gameplay until u start shooting/driving around in ur case.

Interesting I’ve noticed the same thing that cotton (which causes less static) makes the gameplay worse vs causing more static with stretchy elastic like clothes. Weird

I still cannot get around the fact that i can’t get good gameplay literally *anywhere* i go. Even where my friends play amazingly well effortlessly. I have about 2 minutes of good gameplay and i can feel the desync start to settle in.

Our body must react differently than other people to static charges or something. I’ve been shocking my cats sometimes when we touch. I have no idea i really barely play much anymore, it’s too stressful.

I either sit in the firing range for hours testing things or just jump into ranked with like a 5-10% rate of good gameplay out of the whole session.

There’s no use in playing anything competitive with this problem, especially games that are fast paced and where aim/micro movements matter the most. U are at a huge disadvantage(which seems like an understatement really). More like a handicap
Yes, your describing many things I've also noticed myself.
While I tho use this "wiring" trick it causes overall much less delay by having cables wired from the monitor stand or pc-case to the waterborne-element.
Somehow it makes a lot of difference.
Which is why it leads me to some grounding issue.

But I cannot wrap my head around if its a device causing this issue itself since I've like many others tried multiple setups of mice, kb, monitors etc.
And at some locations the problem doesn't even occur with my regualar stuff.

But my conclusion is that some how it's bound to static eletricity and its something either "we" build up because of something.
I don't have any real idea.
It's very weird.

Something that's not for none-believers to read now:
I don't shower for like 2-3 days the problem becomes SOMEHOW less noticeable.
If I shower than the next day its like I'm resetting it back to square-one xD.
Just some odd patterns I've noticed, even tried showering every day and that gives me a consistent of worsen gameplay.
Its just extremely weird.

I've tried using USB-fans connected to my pc and aiming that fan to blow air on the wires for mouse and kb, and that seems to really affect something.
It's like a "clock" of like 2-minutes good, 2 minutes bad kinda pretty much. But the thing is that it's like stuck than between the "worse state and the best state".
Not super bad and not super good.
The shower thing; may because of ur skin becoming very dry after showers.

There was a post a while ago a guy saying he’s 100% sure it’s due to dry skin and static. I tried what he said (using lotion to avoid dry skin) and instantly felt a difference in gameplay.
Dry skin is more prone to holding a static charge so there’s that
did he find out where the static charge on his body came from? Even if so, touching a grounded PC or grounding contact should remove the charge. In fact, connecting the body to ground should solve such problems, but it does not. The body does two things: conducts and absorbs current. if you consider the body the main source, isolate your feet from the floor and use all wireless devices.
I've already tried this in some what "way".
Wireless USB hub with wireless kb and mouse as well.
I think you could be on to something about the walls tho.. ngl.
Pointing fans towards the wall seems to lift of the effect of slow inputs in some degree

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Slender
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Re: Ground fault or something else

Post by Slender » 17 Jun 2025, 12:36

"Well it's a good question cause anything protaning to static or frequencys it's work the convo.so let's begin by say that you body runs of Electrons to stay alive and if you do things to you self by being around certain things off what not you body beggins to adapt and servive.so you turn your frequence up and you become what ever you can be just font over think...But with your situation u got a slit in a label or not making good connection at port cause there is frequency that are contained and they travel up and through them cables and a disturbed frequency makes static if you don't want to buy a new cord I tell you what you do is wrap aluminum foil around the corn at the connected end should help and for yourself downy dryer sheets 2 in each front pocket it works it will drive u crazy"

Kyousuke
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Re: Ground fault or something else

Post by Kyousuke » 09 Aug 2025, 16:15

Rallaz wrote:
12 Jun 2025, 07:37
It's been a long time since I posted about my issue regarding input lag here, I know there is a lot of unfamiliar faces here nowadays and they like to come to their own conclusions pretty fast. ANYWAY.

Regarding the problem I've got.
It is not proven ofc that this makes a difference by any stats or facts rather than my own.

When I strap a normal USB cable to my PC-case or even monitor stand(Zowie BenQ XL2546K).
Then "connect" it to my waterborne element with both ends touching the magnetic/metal parts.
My inputs in-game and in any game, even in Windows 11 it feels much and I'm not gonna be delusional here, I mean way more precise and faster by miles.
In competetive games many things under 1 second matters alot.
I can easily say for myself it goes down from 0.250 seconds delay to something around 0.050 seconds which is a lot in many games and especially in my personal most loved gamed called Rocket League.
Inputs in this game matter so much that you cannot execute specific mechanics because of the game functions and lets you steer or control your car.

What I found interesting is that one guy mentioned about touching metal parts makes his inputs better for a few seconds.
This goes for me as well like an on and off button as well.


Same as another person also mentioned about our body makes us have a an effect on this.
Even tho this may be something far more far fetched thing is that if make a choice of having a "functioning" breathing t-shirts which in my case feels more static while you put it on it affects inputs in a positive way rather than having a regualar cotton t-shirt.

I'm wondering why this could be the case with my own theory with the USB cable "connected" between my PC-case or even monitor stand to begin with.
I write specifically in the Niche Issues forum because its not something related to Windows/Bios settings.
I've already explored anything you can come up with in terms of those.

Tested
- I have tested each and every single outlet in my place and firends places, some feels worse some feels better.
- I only have real ground pins my kitchen outlets and thats have been tested and makes it slower by far.
- I've checked with a multi-meter every single outlet and nothing stands out
- All different kinds of UPS

Not tested
- I've NOT opened up my outlets and checked for bad wiring and such

I'm a believer of this is something related to either Ground or something causing a strange signal causing my devices to
act very ab-normal.
If I for example turn off Wi-Fi on my phone while having it laying between keyboard and mouse it causes and minimal slighty "worsen" input feeling. I would have expected it to feel better but this is not the case.
(edit) This problem occurs wether I have an ethernet connection or not.
This meaning the cable being unplugged or not. No difference.


Any ideas of what I could try is welcoming


' Related topics '
viewtopic.php?f=24&t=14705
viewtopic.php?f=24&t=14720
I also experienced this. I copied a YouTuber and connected a USB cable and a laptop charger (plugged into the wall) via a grounding clip.
It actually reduced my input lag quite a bit, but it seems like it only works for a while and not completely fixed.
I also tried connecting the grounding clip to a screw I put in the wall, and it felt a bit faster than before.
Now I’m ordering a few more of those cables to test, since the one I have isn’t long enough.

MontyTheAverage
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Re: Ground fault or something else

Post by MontyTheAverage » 14 Aug 2025, 00:07

Kyousuke wrote:
09 Aug 2025, 16:15
Rallaz wrote:
12 Jun 2025, 07:37
It's been a long time since I posted about my issue regarding input lag here, I know there is a lot of unfamiliar faces here nowadays and they like to come to their own conclusions pretty fast. ANYWAY.

Regarding the problem I've got.
It is not proven ofc that this makes a difference by any stats or facts rather than my own.

When I strap a normal USB cable to my PC-case or even monitor stand(Zowie BenQ XL2546K).
Then "connect" it to my waterborne element with both ends touching the magnetic/metal parts.
My inputs in-game and in any game, even in Windows 11 it feels much and I'm not gonna be delusional here, I mean way more precise and faster by miles.
In competetive games many things under 1 second matters alot.
I can easily say for myself it goes down from 0.250 seconds delay to something around 0.050 seconds which is a lot in many games and especially in my personal most loved gamed called Rocket League.
Inputs in this game matter so much that you cannot execute specific mechanics because of the game functions and lets you steer or control your car.

What I found interesting is that one guy mentioned about touching metal parts makes his inputs better for a few seconds.
This goes for me as well like an on and off button as well.


Same as another person also mentioned about our body makes us have a an effect on this.
Even tho this may be something far more far fetched thing is that if make a choice of having a "functioning" breathing t-shirts which in my case feels more static while you put it on it affects inputs in a positive way rather than having a regualar cotton t-shirt.

I'm wondering why this could be the case with my own theory with the USB cable "connected" between my PC-case or even monitor stand to begin with.
I write specifically in the Niche Issues forum because its not something related to Windows/Bios settings.
I've already explored anything you can come up with in terms of those.

Tested
- I have tested each and every single outlet in my place and firends places, some feels worse some feels better.
- I only have real ground pins my kitchen outlets and thats have been tested and makes it slower by far.
- I've checked with a multi-meter every single outlet and nothing stands out
- All different kinds of UPS

Not tested
- I've NOT opened up my outlets and checked for bad wiring and such

I'm a believer of this is something related to either Ground or something causing a strange signal causing my devices to
act very ab-normal.
If I for example turn off Wi-Fi on my phone while having it laying between keyboard and mouse it causes and minimal slighty "worsen" input feeling. I would have expected it to feel better but this is not the case.
(edit) This problem occurs wether I have an ethernet connection or not.
This meaning the cable being unplugged or not. No difference.


Any ideas of what I could try is welcoming


' Related topics '
viewtopic.php?f=24&t=14705
viewtopic.php?f=24&t=14720
I also experienced this. I copied a YouTuber and connected a USB cable and a laptop charger (plugged into the wall) via a grounding clip.
It actually reduced my input lag quite a bit, but it seems like it only works for a while and not completely fixed.
I also tried connecting the grounding clip to a screw I put in the wall, and it felt a bit faster than before.
Now I’m ordering a few more of those cables to test, since the one I have isn’t long enough.
Can you show picture or show what you are trying exactly? Or what clips or cables you bought?

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