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Re: built a completely new pc - lower input lag but higher desync
Posted: 18 Nov 2025, 15:46
by Unreazz
Slender wrote: ↑Yesterday, 19:10
donger wrote: ↑16 Nov 2025, 08:36
Desync has NOTHING do do with your PC hardware. It has to do with ISP, game servers, routing.
absolute cinema.
he is right lmao. do you really think that everyone who is connected to the internet arround the globe plays with the same condition and has the possibility to became a pro ? Your internet matters more than your hardware
Re: built a completely new pc - lower input lag but higher desync
Posted: 18 Nov 2025, 16:38
by Hyote
Unreazz wrote: ↑Today, 15:46
Slender wrote: ↑Yesterday, 19:10
donger wrote: ↑16 Nov 2025, 08:36
Desync has NOTHING do do with your PC hardware. It has to do with ISP, game servers, routing.
absolute cinema.
he is right lmao. do you really think that everyone who is connected to the internet arround the globe plays with the same condition and has the possibility to became a pro ? Your internet matters more than your hardware
Desync is like the term input lag, as it can mean just about everything. And from personal experience even I can say that you can fix desync with configuring hardware and software.
Re: built a completely new pc - lower input lag but higher desync
Posted: 18 Nov 2025, 16:47
by Unreazz
Hyote wrote: ↑Today, 16:38
Unreazz wrote: ↑Today, 15:46
Slender wrote: ↑Yesterday, 19:10
donger wrote: ↑16 Nov 2025, 08:36
Desync has NOTHING do do with your PC hardware. It has to do with ISP, game servers, routing.
absolute cinema.
he is right lmao. do you really think that everyone who is connected to the internet arround the globe plays with the same condition and has the possibility to became a pro ? Your internet matters more than your hardware
Desync is like the term input lag, as it can mean just about everything. And from personal experience even I can say that you can fix desync with configuring hardware and software.
No. I feel like people can't tell the difference between desync and input lag.
Input lag is a GRAPHICAL DELAY. It's when the image, the frame being played, takes longer than usual and your system feels slower overall.
Desync is what happens in an online game when what is happening on the server does not reflect what is on your screen and this information arrives too late.
Your bullets never hit, your opponents' interpolation is very fast (so fast that a human cannot track it), and the position query of your opponents is no longer correct. The client and server sessions are completely out of sync with each other.
That is the definition of desync. Desync only occurs in connection with the internet. It has nothing to do with hardware or anything else. Everything related to the system is input lag. The internet is not part of it.
Re: built a completely new pc - lower input lag but higher desync
Posted: 18 Nov 2025, 17:48
by Slender
Unreazz wrote: ↑Today, 16:47
Hyote wrote: ↑Today, 16:38
Unreazz wrote: ↑Today, 15:46
Slender wrote: ↑Yesterday, 19:10
absolute cinema.
he is right lmao. do you really think that everyone who is connected to the internet arround the globe plays with the same condition and has the possibility to became a pro ? Your internet matters more than your hardware
Desync is like the term input lag, as it can mean just about everything. And from personal experience even I can say that you can fix desync with configuring hardware and software.
No. I feel like people can't tell the difference between desync and input lag.
Input lag is a GRAPHICAL DELAY. It's when the image, the frame being played, takes longer than usual and your system feels slower overall.
Desync is what happens in an online game when what is happening on the server does not reflect what is on your screen and this information arrives too late.
Your bullets never hit, your opponents' interpolation is very fast (so fast that a human cannot track it), and the position query of your opponents is no longer correct. The client and server sessions are completely out of sync with each other.
That is the definition of desync. Desync only occurs in connection with the internet. It has nothing to do with hardware or anything else. Everything related to the system is input lag. The internet is not part of it.
same issue
Re: built a completely new pc - lower input lag but higher desync
Posted: 18 Nov 2025, 18:42
by Unreazz
Slender wrote: ↑Today, 17:48
Unreazz wrote: ↑Today, 16:47
Hyote wrote: ↑Today, 16:38
Unreazz wrote: ↑Today, 15:46
he is right lmao. do you really think that everyone who is connected to the internet arround the globe plays with the same condition and has the possibility to became a pro ? Your internet matters more than your hardware
Desync is like the term input lag, as it can mean just about everything. And from personal experience even I can say that you can fix desync with configuring hardware and software.
No. I feel like people can't tell the difference between desync and input lag.
Input lag is a GRAPHICAL DELAY. It's when the image, the frame being played, takes longer than usual and your system feels slower overall.
Desync is what happens in an online game when what is happening on the server does not reflect what is on your screen and this information arrives too late.
Your bullets never hit, your opponents' interpolation is very fast (so fast that a human cannot track it), and the position query of your opponents is no longer correct. The client and server sessions are completely out of sync with each other.
That is the definition of desync. Desync only occurs in connection with the internet. It has nothing to do with hardware or anything else. Everything related to the system is input lag. The internet is not part of it.
same issue
Nah it's not the same.
You can also have a system with zero input lag and still experience desync. That was actually the case for me, where I managed to get rid of my input lag for a short period of two weeks.
I reinstalled Windows and uninstalled the chipset drivers, and during that time I disabled Windows updates until they reactivated themselves after two weeks and the drivers were automatically reinstalled. If you want my opinion, I believe that input lag comes from the OS itself, or rather that the drivers corrupt the system time. And during that time, I also played online, of course, and I can tell you that it plays better with zero input lag, and you could even see more clearly afterwards that desync is real.
The enemy models still moved quickly, but you could now see the interpolation even better... That something was wrong. Having my system so fast and snappy was the best thing I've ever experienced. I suddenly started playing single-player games because it was just fun. It felt like it used to because there was nothing slowing you down anymore.
But desync? It was still there. Even though I no longer had input lag in the system. It was definitely advantageous, but there's nothing you can do about desync. Routing... peering ISP... these are things that are beyond your control.
For everyone who is interested what i have done to eliminate it. Just follow this.
https://pastebin.com/eKSpmVZ7