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Re: Hello from ASUS [official rep]

Posted: 05 Mar 2014, 05:13
by Haste
Chief Blur Buster wrote:
Haste wrote:2560x1440 is nice but the horsepower needed to achieve decent frame rates at that resolution in demanding games is ridiculous.
I have told NVIDIA that ULMB should ideally be able to be enabled at even more refresh rates if possible (including as low as 60Hz). Hopefully the ROG has more ULMB refresh rates available than the VG248QE G-SYNC upgrade. Given the same persistence, 75fps@75Hz would have the same amount of motion blur as 120fps@120Hz.
Thanks, Mark. I'm sure it might help some peeps who are not sensible to flicker.

As for me the threshold between "Argh, my eyeeeeeees..." and "I can deal with it" is somewhere between 85Hz and 100Hz.
That's on my CRT.

Given strobbed backlight LCD's are harsher than the natural strobe of a CRT (I recall you compared 60Hz lightboost to 48Hz on a CRT), I reckon I wouldn't want to set ULMB at anything below 120Hz.

Re: Hello from ASUS [official rep]

Posted: 05 Mar 2014, 09:50
by Chief Blur Buster
Haste wrote:Given strobbed backlight LCD's are harsher than the natural strobe of a CRT (I recall you compared 60Hz lightboost to 48Hz on a CRT), I reckon I wouldn't want to set ULMB at anything below 120Hz.
That makes sense. 120Hz is the sweet spot if your eyes are sensitive & you can muster the frame rate. That said, my eyes can tolerate strobe backlight flicker down to 75Hz, while 60Hz is something I would only do for very short periods in emulators.

Re: Hello from ASUS [official rep]

Posted: 05 Mar 2014, 11:55
by Black Octagon
Hi JJ,

Thanks for taking the time to answer our questions on here.

I would like to know if you can disclose any technical details about the panel used on the ROG SWIFT PG278Q beyond what is on your website?

A lot of us are paying close attention to this model and the promise of finally having native 120Hz support at 2560x1440 (in addition to ULMB and G-Sync, of course). But beyond that, ASUS implies that this screen will surprise us in terms of what how good a 'very high quality' TN panel can look versus alternative panel technologies like IPS.

So, can you give us any specifics about how this TN panel will surpass the TNs to which we've grown accustomed?

Many thanks.

Sent from dumbphone (pls excuse typos and dumbness)

Re: Hello from ASUS [official rep]

Posted: 05 Mar 2014, 12:39
by ChristopherODd
Black Octagon wrote:Hi JJ,

Thanks for taking the time to answer our questions on here.

I would like to know if you can disclose any technical details about the panel used on the ROG SWIFT PG278Q beyond what is on your website?

A lot of us are paying close attention to this model and the promise of finally having native 120Hz support at 2560x1440 (in addition to ULMB and G-Sync, of course). But beyond that, ASUS implies that this screen will surprise us in terms of what how good a 'very high quality' TN panel can look versus alternative panel technologies like IPS.

So, can you give us any specifics about how this TN panel will surpass the TNs to which we've grown accustomed?

Many thanks.

Sent from dumbphone (pls excuse typos and dumbness)
I'd also love to know if there is a more narrowed release date.

Re: Hello from ASUS [official rep]

Posted: 06 Mar 2014, 03:44
by RealNC
Your ROG Swift PG278Q monitor looks very nice. Are you planning on supporting 1280x720 (720p) through simple pixel doubling (since 2560/2 = 1280, and 1440/2 = 720) so that we can run 720p content with a nice, sharp and crystal clear image rather than the blur fest when scaling with interpolation?

From an engineering standpoint, this would be quite easy to achieve (including no input lag; pixel doubling doesn't need any processing overhead worth mentioning.) Personally I'm intending to buy BenQ's XL2720G because it's a 1080p panel. Your PG278Q is a 1440p panel and thus will result in a hefty FPS drop with future computer games. But if the PG278Q would be able to display a sharp, pixel-doubled 720p mode, I'd go for that instead.

Re: Hello from ASUS [official rep]

Posted: 06 Mar 2014, 15:47
by treach
Hello together,

know the page for a long time, finally registered.

jj we all know there are enough 120/144 hz tn monitors , 1 korean pls panel and the eizo mva monitor.
i often visit prad.de cause i think they do the most accurate testing, i know you guys from asus have the pretty much the fastest monitors, so i look at this: http://www.prad.de/new/monitore/test/2014/test-asus-vs24ahl-teil7.html#Latenzzeit
and i think why havent you guys already made an ips with 120 hz

so i just wnated to know if you are working on 120 hz ips monitors or infos for the future because i see a good base here.

btw big respect to mark for all your work and knowledge.

Re: Hello from ASUS [official rep]

Posted: 07 Mar 2014, 13:15
by MonarchX
Hi ASUS!

I asked ASUS to sponsor a G-Sync equipped VG248QE or a G-Sync DIY kit for the VG248QE I already own in order for me to properly review the improved G-Sync color accuracy. I have all the needed hardware and software equipment to do so. A review like that would serve ASUS well since the majority of reviews give VG248QE a really bad score for having awful colors. I never heard back from ASUS, but the matter is closed as I am about to sell my VG248QE and purchase a superior gaming monitor - Eizo Foris FG2421.

I also think your pricing for the upcoming ASUS ROG TN panel is outrageous because no TN panel is worth that much.

Re: Hello from ASUS [official rep]

Posted: 07 Mar 2014, 13:39
by michaelius
Can you guys start offering gaming screens with semi-glossy screens in addition to matte ?

Re: Hello from ASUS [official rep]

Posted: 07 Mar 2014, 14:52
by RealNC
MonarchX wrote:I also think your pricing for the upcoming ASUS ROG TN panel is outrageous because no TN panel is worth that much.
The G-Sync module costs about $250, so in reality you need to subtract that to get the actual price Asus would otherwise be asking for the monitor.

That means that if a non-TN G-Sync monitor would appear, it would cost about $250 more than normal.

Re: Hello from ASUS [official rep]

Posted: 07 Mar 2014, 16:45
by vhn
RealNC wrote:
MonarchX wrote:I also think your pricing for the upcoming ASUS ROG TN panel is outrageous because no TN panel is worth that much.
The G-Sync module costs about $250, so in reality you need to subtract that to get the actual price Asus would otherwise be asking for the monitor.

That means that if a non-TN G-Sync monitor would appear, it would cost about $250 more than normal.
It costs the monitor manufacturers about 50 dollars to buy the g-sync module from Nvidia and install it in their own product. But whatever they decide to charge the consumer is of course another story.

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