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Re: Looking for New Monitor Recommendations

Posted: 18 Jun 2020, 05:22
by ProX
june wrote:
17 Jun 2020, 17:34
ProX wrote:
17 Jun 2020, 07:40
I would go with Alienware AW2521HF, I tested and compared it with the Asus VG259QM and the input lag is lower / better, propably due to its uniqe hardware G-Sync Module / Scaler - which the other IPS models are missing. The build qualitity of the AW2521HF is also better than the VG259QM.
That your first one was faulty was bad luck, i have no image retention on my AW2521HF (you can google "retention test" for testing). Maybe you try it again with the AW2521HF.
is color the only difference between the AW2521HFL and AW2521HF? i found it hard to believe that color is the only reason it costs $100+ more but that's what the customer support representative told me when i asked
Yes, the only difference is the colour and they cost almost the same in most countries.

Re: Looking for New Monitor Recommendations

Posted: 18 Jun 2020, 06:25
by Max_hz
ProX wrote:
17 Jun 2020, 15:22
Max_hz wrote:
17 Jun 2020, 08:40
@ ProX
"I would go with Alienware AW2521HF, I tested and compared it with the Asus VG259QM and the input lag is lower / better, propably due to its uniqe hardware G-Sync Module / Scaler - which the other IPS models are missing"

In what way did you test this monitor? do you have special equipment for testing input-lag? or is this your subjective opinion?
From what I've read about this monitor https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/pr ... ors/specs/ it is freesync and g-sync compatible but not G-Sync.
I have no special equipment but i did a lot of tests, the processing time of the AW2521HF is really fast, e. g. it is more then 1 seconds faster back from desktop to a fullscreen game again then the Asus VG259QM.
The AW2521HF is actually a full G-SYNC monitor and it has definetly variable overdrive, you can set the overdrive setting to "extreme" and you has almost never any overshoot (still not on low FPS). So the nvidia page is wrong at this point, its only not certificated for what ever reason from nvidia (maybe Dell wanted to avoid the licence costs for the certification), but a hardware module should still be installed.

Btw "rtings" did a professional test on the AW2521HF and they wrote the following about the input lag: "The Alienware AW2521HF's input lag is outstanding."
"I have no special equipment but i did a lot of tests, the processing time of the AW2521HF is really fast, e. g. it is more then 1 seconds faster back from desktop to a fullscreen game again then the Asus VG259QM"

This has nothing to do with input lag, the time needed from switching desktop to a fullscreen game is related to many other sources.

"The AW2521HF is actually a full G-SYNC monitor and it has definetly variable overdrive, you can set the overdrive setting to "extreme" and you has almost never any overshoot (still not on low FPS)"

Can you give me some proove there is a dedicated G-sync module installed inside the AW2521HF ?

"So the nvidia page is wrong at this point, its only not certificated for what ever reason from nvidia (maybe Dell wanted to avoid the licence costs for the certification), but a hardware module should still be installed."

It is certified but not as G-sync, do you really think Dell will take the effort and costs to install a G-sync module without the Nvidia G-sync certification, that makes no sense.

"Btw "rtings" did a professional test on the AW2521HF and they wrote the following about the input lag: "The Alienware AW2521HF's input lag is outstanding."

It's on par with the other new IPS generation panels and btw if you talking about "Rtings" don't you find it strange that if a G-Sync module is present rtings did not notice it.
If there is something like a variable overdrive present in the AW2521HF then it must be a specific Dell solution rather then a dedicated Nvidia G-sync module but very strange that they do not mention it.

I only respond because you recommand this monitor to others as a full G-SYNC monitor while there is no proove of this, be careful to not spread misinformation!

Re: Looking for New Monitor Recommendations

Posted: 18 Jun 2020, 06:43
by ProX
Max_hz wrote:
18 Jun 2020, 06:25
ProX wrote:
17 Jun 2020, 15:22
Max_hz wrote:
17 Jun 2020, 08:40
@ ProX
"I would go with Alienware AW2521HF, I tested and compared it with the Asus VG259QM and the input lag is lower / better, propably due to its uniqe hardware G-Sync Module / Scaler - which the other IPS models are missing"

In what way did you test this monitor? do you have special equipment for testing input-lag? or is this your subjective opinion?
From what I've read about this monitor https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/pr ... ors/specs/ it is freesync and g-sync compatible but not G-Sync.
I have no special equipment but i did a lot of tests, the processing time of the AW2521HF is really fast, e. g. it is more then 1 seconds faster back from desktop to a fullscreen game again then the Asus VG259QM.
The AW2521HF is actually a full G-SYNC monitor and it has definetly variable overdrive, you can set the overdrive setting to "extreme" and you has almost never any overshoot (still not on low FPS). So the nvidia page is wrong at this point, its only not certificated for what ever reason from nvidia (maybe Dell wanted to avoid the licence costs for the certification), but a hardware module should still be installed.

Btw "rtings" did a professional test on the AW2521HF and they wrote the following about the input lag: "The Alienware AW2521HF's input lag is outstanding."
"I have no special equipment but i did a lot of tests, the processing time of the AW2521HF is really fast, e. g. it is more then 1 seconds faster back from desktop to a fullscreen game again then the Asus VG259QM"

This has nothing to do with input lag, the time needed from switching desktop to a fullscreen game is related to many other sources.

"The AW2521HF is actually a full G-SYNC monitor and it has definetly variable overdrive, you can set the overdrive setting to "extreme" and you has almost never any overshoot (still not on low FPS)"

Can you give me some proove there is a dedicated G-sync module installed inside the AW2521HF ?

"So the nvidia page is wrong at this point, its only not certificated for what ever reason from nvidia (maybe Dell wanted to avoid the licence costs for the certification), but a hardware module should still be installed."

It is certified but not as G-sync, do you really think Dell will take the effort and costs to install a G-sync module without the Nvidia G-sync certification, that makes no sense.

"Btw "rtings" did a professional test on the AW2521HF and they wrote the following about the input lag: "The Alienware AW2521HF's input lag is outstanding."

It's on par with the other new IPS generation panels and btw if you talking about "Rtings" don't you find it strange that if a G-Sync module is present rtings did not notice it.
If there is something like a variable overdrive present in the AW2521HF then it must be a specific Dell solution rather then a dedicated Nvidia G-sync module but very strange that they do not mention it.

I only respond because you recommand this monitor to others as a full G-SYNC monitor while there is no proove of this, be careful to not spread misinformation!
The AW2521HF has definetly a variable overdrive (while G-Sync is on), i already posted images on this forum in extreme overdrive mode. And the input lag is as I mentioned outstanding, prooved by professional tests. Believe it or not.

Re: Looking for New Monitor Recommendations

Posted: 18 Jun 2020, 06:50
by ProX
Another proove of the variable overdrive on the AW2521HF: look a this YT review, he tells that there is no overshoot in extreme mode overdrive (while he is wondering about the reason - but it is obvious): https://youtu.be/Z5vO-3guob4?t=110

Re: Looking for New Monitor Recommendations

Posted: 18 Jun 2020, 21:09
by june
i'm gonna have to agree with max here. admittedly, i am a novice, but i find it incredibly hard to believe that the aw2521hf has a gsync module because none of your supporting statements have any validity to them. for all i know, u might be right. but even if u are, u are not supporting your assumption logically