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Re: monitor 240hz for apex/warzone

Posted: 26 Oct 2021, 22:50
by IIISLIDEIII
lizardpeter wrote:
26 Oct 2021, 17:48
Acer 390 Hz IPS monitor.
they speak very well of the acer but I have not found any reviews with precise information on response times and any ghosting or overshot at intermediate fq.
I have to consider that the range on which I would go to use it is 200 fps and certainly not 390.

Re: monitor 240hz for call of duty

Posted: 27 Oct 2021, 04:13
by lizardpeter
IIISLIDEIII wrote:
26 Oct 2021, 22:50
lizardpeter wrote:
26 Oct 2021, 17:48
Acer 390 Hz IPS monitor.
they speak very well of the acer but I have not found any reviews with precise information on response times and any ghosting or overshot at intermediate fq.
I have to consider that the range on which I would go to use it is 200 fps and certainly not 390.
RTINGS, my personal favorite source for that stuff, should be reviewing the monitor soon. Generally, these new Fast IPS panels are about as fast as the best TN panels. However, the pixel response time is competing against those 240 Hz TN panels. In reality, these Fast IPS panels are not fast enough for a true 390 Hz experience, but they are faster than many of the well-known 240 Hz panels like the Zowie XL2546K that everyone talks about. However, response time is not everything. Sure, not every pixel transition can complete within the refresh interval, but having the higher refresh rate helps with MPRT, lowers motion blur, and decreases latency.

I would love to see something like a 480 Hz OLED screen with insane response times. I wouldn’t even care about burn in. It would be worth it to just use it and replace it in a few years.

Re: monitor 240hz for call of duty

Posted: 27 Oct 2021, 04:23
by lizardpeter
If you use GSYNC, I would probably recommend something else, however. I don’t use GSYNC. The 390 Hz monitor does not have the dedicated GSYNC module, meaning that it lacks variable overdrive.

Re: monitor 240hz for call of duty

Posted: 27 Oct 2021, 18:50
by IIISLIDEIII
lizardpeter wrote:
27 Oct 2021, 04:23
If you use GSYNC, I would probably recommend something else, however. I don’t use GSYNC. The 390 Hz monitor does not have the dedicated GSYNC module, meaning that it lacks variable overdrive.
I rarely use gsync

Re: monitor 240hz for call of duty

Posted: 29 Oct 2021, 23:25
by Nm_kng
isaac wrote:
26 Oct 2021, 11:49
Nm_kng wrote:
26 Oct 2021, 11:17
Hp Omen X25 is imo the best 240hz monitor to exist. The motion clarity on that thing is unmatched (without strobing tech)
do you prefer it to your own vg259qm or xl2546k ? 2546k is a big no for me bc of just two OD options ( both high and premium have crazy overshots )
VG259QM, but if you can find a 2nd gen TN monitor like the X25, XF252Q or the KD25F I would recommend you to get one. They’re just better.

Re: monitor 240hz for call of duty

Posted: 30 Oct 2021, 14:42
by Handler
Given you have a wide FPS range (150-220 FPS), I would recommend a monitor that has a g-sync module (I know you are not using g-sync but bear with me). When you have a wide FPS range you need a monitor that performs well (pixel response and overshoot) across that range. To get this you (usually) need variable overdrive. Monitors with G-sync modules always have variable overdrive and the implementation is usually good. Hardware Unboxed tests for pixel response and overshoot across the refresh range of the monitor so I would recommend checking their reviews out on YouTube.

One of the best options right now is the Asus PG279QM. The G7 also performs well, but some people report issues with flickering and it has a curve. If you don't have those problems or an issue with the curve then that might be a good option too. Full disclosure, I have the AW2721D and IMHO it's a great option as well. The PG279QM performs slightly better in almost all metrics, but it's also more expensive (especially if you catch the Alienware on sale). Check the Hardware Unboxed reviews for comparisons.

Hope my 2 cents are helpful!

P.S. There are monitors without G-sync modules that have variable overdrive, but it's not as common (though becoming more common) and the tuning is (usually) not as good so make sure you do your research on non g-sync module monitors.

Re: monitor 240hz for call of duty

Posted: 02 Nov 2021, 12:10
by IIISLIDEIII
Nm_kng wrote:
29 Oct 2021, 23:25
isaac wrote:
26 Oct 2021, 11:49
Nm_kng wrote:
26 Oct 2021, 11:17
Hp Omen X25 is imo the best 240hz monitor to exist. The motion clarity on that thing is unmatched (without strobing tech)
do you prefer it to your own vg259qm or xl2546k ? 2546k is a big no for me bc of just two OD options ( both high and premium have crazy overshots )
VG259QM, but if you can find a 2nd gen TN monitor like the X25, XF252Q or the KD25F I would recommend you to get one. They’re just better.
I've been trying a 2546k for 2 days and it's not bad, more responsive and less blur than my 27gn850, the only strange thing is that I notice very little difference between dyac on and off in game, and I was a bit disappointed as to hear a lot of people dyac should change things like day and night.

on warzone dyac premium with ama high, it gives me similar performance as dyac off and ama premium, maybe it's me who am not careful enough to notice the differences but seriously they are minimal

I'll be using this for a few days then I'll try x25 and vg259qm and see.
Handler wrote:
30 Oct 2021, 14:42
Given you have a wide FPS range (150-220 FPS), I would recommend a monitor that has a g-sync module (I know you are not using g-sync but bear with me). When you have a wide FPS range you need a monitor that performs well (pixel response and overshoot) across that range. To get this you (usually) need variable overdrive. Monitors with G-sync modules always have variable overdrive and the implementation is usually good. Hardware Unboxed tests for pixel response and overshoot across the refresh range of the monitor so I would recommend checking their reviews out on YouTube.

One of the best options right now is the Asus PG279QM. The G7 also performs well, but some people report issues with flickering and it has a curve. If you don't have those problems or an issue with the curve then that might be a good option too. Full disclosure, I have the AW2721D and IMHO it's a great option as well. The PG279QM performs slightly better in almost all metrics, but it's also more expensive (especially if you catch the Alienware on sale). Check the Hardware Unboxed reviews for comparisons.

Hope my 2 cents are helpful!

P.S. There are monitors without G-sync modules that have variable overdrive, but it's not as common (though becoming more common) and the tuning is (usually) not as good so make sure you do your research on non g-sync module monitors.
I'm also checking 27 1440p 240 as the new predator xb273ugx or alienware 2721d or asus, they are all very similar in performance, there is none among them that stands out from the others, maybe predator is a little better of all but is similar.

the decision is a bit difficult, it comes to choosing whether to have a fast all-rounder monitor or have 2 separate monitors, one for fps only and the other for everything else.
The 1080p monitors on a diagonal of 25 give you a reactivity that you cannot have on a 27 1440p, not very big differences but you can feel it a little, with 27 I have to move the screen far away to hear it well and in fast flicks or very close fights with 25 inches my eyes feel that they can handle everything more easily,

Re: monitor 240hz for call of duty

Posted: 02 Nov 2021, 16:33
by lizardpeter
IIISLIDEIII wrote:
02 Nov 2021, 12:10
I've been trying a 2546k for 2 days and it's not bad, more responsive and less blur than my 27gn850, the only strange thing is that I notice very little difference between dyac on and off in game, and I was a bit disappointed as to hear a lot of people dyac should change things like day and night.
I have a similar experience with BFI on my 390 Hz monitor. In the UFO test it's very apparent that there's a major improvement. In game, I really don't notice anything.

Re: monitor 240hz for call of duty

Posted: 07 Nov 2021, 22:44
by IIISLIDEIII
Handler wrote:
30 Oct 2021, 14:42
Given you have a wide FPS range (150-220 FPS), I would recommend a monitor that has a g-sync module (I know you are not using g-sync but bear with me). When you have a wide FPS range you need a monitor that performs well (pixel response and overshoot) across that range. To get this you (usually) need variable overdrive. Monitors with G-sync modules always have variable overdrive and the implementation is usually good. Hardware Unboxed tests for pixel response and overshoot across the refresh range of the monitor so I would recommend checking their reviews out on YouTube.

One of the best options right now is the Asus PG279QM. The G7 also performs well, but some people report issues with flickering and it has a curve. If you don't have those problems or an issue with the curve then that might be a good option too. Full disclosure, I have the AW2721D and IMHO it's a great option as well. The PG279QM performs slightly better in almost all metrics, but it's also more expensive (especially if you catch the Alienware on sale). Check the Hardware Unboxed reviews for comparisons.

Hope my 2 cents are helpful!

P.S. There are monitors without G-sync modules that have variable overdrive, but it's not as common (though becoming more common) and the tuning is (usually) not as good so make sure you do your research on non g-sync module monitors.
there would be the 360hz asus pg259qn which has the gsync module but the catch would be that the new acer nitro xv252qf 390hz has come out which is more performing and costs less than the asus, but does not have the module, only gsync compatibility .....

Re: monitor 240hz for call of duty

Posted: 08 Nov 2021, 07:26
by IIISLIDEIII
ok, wednesday i get hp omen x25, msi mag 251rx and acer nitro xv252qf, i will compare the monitors together with benq xl2546k and give my opinion and my decision