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Re: Acer XV252QF for csgo

Posted: 14 Dec 2021, 12:15
by IIISLIDEIII
NoiZ wrote:
13 Dec 2021, 17:02
IIISLIDEIII wrote:
12 Dec 2021, 20:33
NoiZ wrote:
12 Dec 2021, 17:29
Ok cool. Yes this is gonna be my startup setup. Waiting for the ddr5 to drop in price and next one will be i9 12700k and a 3080 card for sure.
And I ordered the omen x25 but got the x25f instead. Didn't even try it out just shipping it back.
Read that the x25 is a much better monitor.
Wish I lived in the US. Man the prices are so great over there.
Paid almost 550 euro with shipping for my acer. Not a cheap monitor so hope it holds up.
as I told you omen x25 is better than acer on response times, and not a little, but response times are not everything as lizardpeter says, acer is better than omen on everything else.
You need to know if response times are your number 1 priority, if they are Omen is the choice.
Well responstime isn't everything. I'm trying to see the big picture and that's why I'm trying out the Acer first.
To bad the the BB approved monitor isn't sold in Europe. That would have been nice to try out.
Mostly I'm looking for a monitor to game on and not for anything else.
Minimal tearing and hopefully a smooth feeling in games and god response time.
Also that it can keep up on abit faster games later on also.
I've never been one that needs to have the best but why not try to find what suits my needs and wants best.
Not going only what others think beacuse that's differs alot so better to try it out myself for a week or two then decide. Might even up on a TN panel again who knows.
Don't have anything against TN panels just fun to try out ips and see if I like it or not.
i am exactly like you, i still have trial time with amazon which expires on january 27th and i still have here in front of me omen and acer, i would like to keep both ..... lol
they have different peak performances but both excellent, really difficult.
I think the choice will be easier when they come out 360hz or 480hz tn panel, they have won everything for competitive play.

Re: Acer XV252QF for csgo

Posted: 14 Dec 2021, 15:04
by lizardpeter
IIISLIDEIII wrote:
14 Dec 2021, 12:15
i am exactly like you, i still have trial time with amazon which expires on january 27th and i still have here in front of me omen and acer, i would like to keep both ..... lol
they have different peak performances but both excellent, really difficult.
I think the choice will be easier when they come out 360hz or 480hz tn panel, they have won everything for competitive play.
I hope the 480 Hz monitors in late 2022 will be TN or manufacturers finally use blue-phase LCDs or OLEDs. Insanely fast pixel response times and that kind of refresh rate would be insane. It would also be very nice to upgrade to one of those in late 2022 when I upgrade to a 4090.

Re: Acer XV252QF for csgo

Posted: 14 Dec 2021, 17:20
by NoiZ
Yes let's hope that BenQ and others will still provide a 360hz screen in 2022.
And the omen seems to be a wery good contendor but i still think the Acer has the upperhand in my opinion on more ways. So let's see which one gets to stay and whom get booted out into the cold 😂

Re: Acer XV252QF for csgo

Posted: 15 Dec 2021, 11:58
by StarWarsCoffee
NoiZ wrote:
12 Dec 2021, 17:29
Paid almost 550 euro with shipping for my acer. Not a cheap monitor so hope it holds up.
Where did you buy it from? I can't find the Omen X25 or the Acer 390hz available for sale anywhere...

Re: Acer XV252QF for csgo

Posted: 15 Dec 2021, 14:57
by NoiZ
StarWarsCoffee wrote:
15 Dec 2021, 11:58
NoiZ wrote:
12 Dec 2021, 17:29
Paid almost 550 euro with shipping for my acer. Not a cheap monitor so hope it holds up.
Where did you buy it from? I can't find the Omen X25 or the Acer 390hz available for sale anywhere...
Well I'm in Europe, Sweden to be exact. The asus I've bought from Sweden biggest computer online store and the omen x25 directly from HP Sweden.
We have several stores that has them in stock so it's pretty easy to find one.
What we lack is gpus though :) :)

Re: Acer XV252QF for csgo

Posted: 15 Dec 2021, 15:33
by StarWarsCoffee
NoiZ wrote:
15 Dec 2021, 14:57
StarWarsCoffee wrote:
15 Dec 2021, 11:58
NoiZ wrote:
12 Dec 2021, 17:29
Paid almost 550 euro with shipping for my acer. Not a cheap monitor so hope it holds up.
Where did you buy it from? I can't find the Omen X25 or the Acer 390hz available for sale anywhere...
Well I'm in Europe, Sweden to be exact. The asus I've bought from Sweden biggest computer online store and the omen x25 directly from HP Sweden.
We have several stores that has them in stock so it's pretty easy to find one.
What we lack is gpus though :) :)
Any online retailers? I'll pay the shipping to the US! :P

Re: Acer XV252QF for csgo

Posted: 21 Dec 2021, 00:50
by NoiZ
StarWarsCoffee wrote:
15 Dec 2021, 15:33
NoiZ wrote:
15 Dec 2021, 14:57
StarWarsCoffee wrote:
15 Dec 2021, 11:58
NoiZ wrote:
12 Dec 2021, 17:29
Paid almost 550 euro with shipping for my acer. Not a cheap monitor so hope it holds up.
Where did you buy it from? I can't find the Omen X25 or the Acer 390hz available for sale anywhere...
Well I'm in Europe, Sweden to be exact. The asus I've bought from Sweden biggest computer online store and the omen x25 directly from HP Sweden.
We have several stores that has them in stock so it's pretty easy to find one.
What we lack is gpus though :) :)
Any online retailers? I'll pay the shipping to the US! :P
That's gonna be a pretty pennie to ship :P

Re: Acer XV252QF for csgo

Posted: 21 Dec 2021, 02:05
by Zace
lizardpeter wrote:
14 Dec 2021, 15:04
IIISLIDEIII wrote:
14 Dec 2021, 12:15
i am exactly like you, i still have trial time with amazon which expires on january 27th and i still have here in front of me omen and acer, i would like to keep both ..... lol
they have different peak performances but both excellent, really difficult.
I think the choice will be easier when they come out 360hz or 480hz tn panel, they have won everything for competitive play.
I hope the 480 Hz monitors in late 2022 will be TN or manufacturers finally use blue-phase LCDs or OLEDs. Insanely fast pixel response times and that kind of refresh rate would be insane. It would also be very nice to upgrade to one of those in late 2022 when I upgrade to a 4090.
Never heard of blue phase, but the acer just isn’t fast enough. Even with ulmb it just lacks the clarity.

Re: Acer XV252QF for csgo

Posted: 21 Dec 2021, 04:06
by planart
I think this Acer is really good for CS:GO - if you manage to get 390fps.

I have XL2456K and XV252QF (two different setups) and overall I prefer XV252QF.

Credit where it's due, no matter what any of the response times tables or anything says, TN-panel on the BenQ is still sharper on moving objects meaning no motion blur. And not only even with Dyac enabled - it gets the upper hand no matter what strobing or overdrive setting is used. In practice TN panel stays more sharp in 3D gaming, but other than that single feature I don't think it has a lot going for it. It's even quite terrible monitor the second you close the game.

XV252QF overall picture quality is vastly superior (IPS), input lag is tad better and yes - it's quite a lot smoother also with no tearing visible to the eye. It is a tad more blurry in practice even if ufo test photos might look pretty similar.

It all comes down to personal preference in the end.

Re: Acer XV252QF for csgo

Posted: 21 Dec 2021, 05:08
by IIISLIDEIII
planart wrote:
21 Dec 2021, 04:06
I think this Acer is really good for CS:GO - if you manage to get 390fps.

I have XL2456K and XV252QF (two different setups) and overall I prefer XV252QF.

Credit where it's due, no matter what any of the response times tables or anything says, TN-panel on the BenQ is still sharper on moving objects meaning no motion blur. And not only even with Dyac enabled - it gets the upper hand no matter what strobing or overdrive setting is used. In practice TN panel stays more sharp in 3D gaming, but other than that single feature I don't think it has a lot going for it. It's even quite terrible monitor the second you close the game.

XV252QF overall picture quality is vastly superior (IPS), input lag is tad better and yes - it's quite a lot smoother also with no tearing visible to the eye. It is a tad more blurry in practice even if ufo test photos might look pretty similar.

It all comes down to personal preference in the end.
that's right, acer is better in everything even than Omen but the response times do not keep up