AW2521HF overdrive settings with VRR off and on..and a few questions.
Re: AW2521HF overdrive settings with VRR off and on..and a few questions.
The only thing I noticed was when I put extreme with gsync off funny stuff starts to happen, artifacts, overshooting etc...
Anyway Im kinda disapointed with it, I though the difference was gonna be bigger compared to my old benq xl2411z.
Anyway Im kinda disapointed with it, I though the difference was gonna be bigger compared to my old benq xl2411z.
Re: AW2521HF overdrive settings with VRR off and on..and a few questions.
The highest overdrive presets typically aren't "best," since they can create overshoot.
The best "overdrive" in an objective sense is where the overvolt is balanced to the point that the GtG time matches the scanout time of the monitor's native refresh rate as closely as possible, which results in a neutral image without ghosting or smearing, leaving only the MPRT (aka persistence) blur of the display.
The improvement from your old 144Hz monitor to your new 240Hz will instead mostly come from any reduction in processing latency and the decrease in scanout time (6.9ms vs 4.2ms) with an additional 96 refreshes per second.
Ideally, if both monitors have good overdrive tuning, they should look the same in this respect; neutral.
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Re: AW2521HF overdrive settings with VRR off and on..and a few questions.
I used the middle option overdrive on the old benq (high) which had slight overshoot but never bothered me ingame.
Re: AW2521HF overdrive settings with VRR off and on..and a few questions.
The point is, higher overdrive presets don't necessarily = better (let alone lower latency) unless you prefer overshoot for whatever reason, which is usually all they start to introduce over the lower presets.
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Author: Blur Busters "G-SYNC 101" Series
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Re: AW2521HF overdrive settings with VRR off and on..and a few questions.
Ok I just noticed something...On my benq when i push the overdrive to max (premium) I can see the coronas and the inverse ghosting but ingame its nowhere near as noticeable as with the AW.
Is ghosting, coronas and stuff like that more noticerable on an IPS panel compared to TN?
Re: AW2521HF overdrive settings with VRR off and on..and a few questions.
Depends entirely on the panel type, its native base GtG, the overdrive tuning of the given model, and what preset you have it on.maestroo wrote: ↑02 Jan 2022, 15:00Ok I just noticed something...On my benq when i push the overdrive to max (premium) I can see the coronas and the inverse ghosting but ingame its nowhere near as noticeable as with the AW.
Is ghosting, coronas and stuff like that more noticerable on an IPS panel compared to TN?
TN panels used to have a huge edge on other panel types where native GtG performance and achievable overdrive tuning was concerned, but the latest IPS panels have caught up since, to the point that the fastest modern IPS panels can now have better overall GtG performance than the fastest older TN panels.
It's possible you're just really, really used to the overdrive performance of your BenQ to the point that any change on the new model is distracting you, regardless if it's better or worse.
That said, the BenQ's max overdrive preset may, hypothetically, be roughly equivalent to your new monitor's middle or upper middle setting, and your new monitor may simply have more overshoot at it's highest overdrive preset than your old monitor.
Again, all models are tuned differently. Overdrive can even be tuned differently on the same panel depending on what brand you purchased. I.E. AOC could use the same panel, but have weak overdrive across all presets, while ASUS, with that same panel, may have more aggressive overdrive across all presets, and so on.
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Author: Blur Busters "G-SYNC 101" Series
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Re: AW2521HF overdrive settings with VRR off and on..and a few questions.
It's not, in fact from the UFO ghosting test it appears that the benq is worse. The alienware on the minimun overdrive has zero ghosting while the benq still has a bit but then ingame its like you dont notice anything wrong with the benq, my guess is because of his washed out colours as with the alienware everything pops out way more. idk
Re: AW2521HF overdrive settings with VRR off and on..and a few questions.
Color contrast can have an effect on perceived overdrive performance, yes.
And I say again, GtG is an average of all the possible pixel transitions from one shade to another, so even if one monitor has faster transitions in multiple ranges of shades than another monitor, the monitor with the slower overall GtG could still have faster transitions in a specific range of shades.
So there's really no "one" answer or "best" across-the-board setting, as it's dependent on the monitor in question and what you're comparing it to, but again, you can pretty much just use your eyes where overdrive presets are concerned and adjust to your preference.
The "best" overdrive preset in your case would probably be whichever one provides the least distracting artifacts in-game; test patterns are just reference for an isolated baseline.
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Author: Blur Busters "G-SYNC 101" Series
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Re: AW2521HF overdrive settings with VRR off and on..and a few questions.
Okay, then change the overdrive until the ghosting is reduced? "Fast" looks good in your video. What do you find wrong with that preset?maestroo wrote: ↑02 Jan 2022, 18:25This looks incredible bad...Sorry for the bad quality tho
https://streamable.com/3mdm8e
And again, if you're playing in G-SYNC mode (don't know if you are), since the monitor doesn't have variable overdrive, it will be stuck in one overdrive preset, so the lower the framerate below the refresh rate, the worse the overdrive will probably be, since it's only tuned for the max refresh rate.
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Author: Blur Busters "G-SYNC 101" Series
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Author: Blur Busters "G-SYNC 101" Series
Displays: ASUS PG27AQN, LG 48C4 Scaler: RetroTINK 4k Consoles: Dreamcast, PS2, PS3, PS5, Switch 2, Wii, Xbox, Analogue Pocket + Dock VR: Beyond, Quest 3, Reverb G2, Index OS: Windows 11 Pro Case: Fractal Design Torrent PSU: Seasonic PRIME TX-1000 MB: ASUS Z790 Hero CPU: Intel i9-13900k w/Noctua NH-U12A GPU: GIGABYTE RTX 4090 GAMING OC RAM: 32GB G.SKILL Trident Z5 DDR5 6400MHz CL32 SSDs: 2TB WD_BLACK SN850 (OS), 4TB WD_BLACK SN850X (Games) Keyboards: Wooting 60HE, Logitech G915 TKL Mice: Razer Viper Mini SE, Razer Viper 8kHz Sound: Creative Sound Blaster Katana V2 (speakers/amp/DAC), AFUL Performer 8 (IEMs)
