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Re: ViewSonic XG2431 Discussion Thread [Blur Busters Approved XG2431 - 24" 240Hz IPS with Best Strobing]
Posted: 26 May 2022, 15:57
by CortexFPS
Re: ViewSonic XG2431 Discussion Thread [Blur Busters Approved XG2431 - 24" 240Hz IPS with Best Strobing]
Posted: 26 May 2022, 16:22
by Angel Soler
Hello Chief!!
I am very happy that the review of the XG2431 has come out. The input lag at 60hz is fantastic (8.8 ms).
The measurement that interests me is the input lag at 60hz with the strobe mode activated.
Rtings says that the input lag at 240hz without strobe and with strobe is very similar (2.7 vs 2.9).
My question is: if at 60hz the input lag is 8.8 without strobe. Did it look similar with the strobe mode?
Thank you very much
Re: ViewSonic XG2431 Discussion Thread [Blur Busters Approved XG2431 - 24" 240Hz IPS with Best Strobing]
Posted: 26 May 2022, 16:39
by Chief Blur Buster
Angel Soler wrote: ↑26 May 2022, 16:22
Hello Chief!!
I am very happy that the review of the XG2431 has come out. The input lag at 60hz is fantastic (8.8 ms).
The measurement that interests me is the input lag at 60hz with the strobe mode activated.
Rtings says that the input lag at 240hz without strobe and with strobe is very similar (2.7 vs 2.9).
My question is: if at 60hz the input lag is 8.8 without strobe. Did it look similar with the strobe mode?
Thank you very much
Still pretty low, but remember strobe also changes the latency gradient!
The strobe lag varies depending on the settings in ViewSonic Strobe Utility, as well as whether you use QFT or not.
You can get much lower strobe lag than factory strobe lag with 60Hz, by using a QFT mode (true the name of QUICK frame transport).
In practice, the XG2431 is one of the lowest-strobe-lag monitors on the market. I've said this a year ago, but it's finally nice to see RTINGS finally publish independent lag results.
Re: ViewSonic XG2431 Discussion Thread [Blur Busters Approved XG2431 - 24" 240Hz IPS with Best Strobing]
Posted: 26 May 2022, 18:51
by Angel Soler
Chief Blur Buster wrote: ↑26 May 2022, 16:39
Angel Soler wrote: ↑26 May 2022, 16:22
Hello Chief!!
I am very happy that the review of the XG2431 has come out. The input lag at 60hz is fantastic (8.8 ms).
The measurement that interests me is the input lag at 60hz with the strobe mode activated.
Rtings says that the input lag at 240hz without strobe and with strobe is very similar (2.7 vs 2.9).
My question is: if at 60hz the input lag is 8.8 without strobe. Did it look similar with the strobe mode?
Thank you very much
Still pretty low, but remember strobe also changes the latency gradient!
The strobe lag varies depending on the settings in ViewSonic Strobe Utility, as well as whether you use QFT or not.
You can get much lower strobe lag than factory strobe lag with 60Hz, by using a QFT mode (true the name of QUICK frame transport).
In practice, the XG2431 is one of the lowest-strobe-lag monitors on the market. I've said this a year ago, but it's finally nice to see RTINGS finally publish independent lag results.
Thank you very much for answering me so quickly
.
What you say is great.
So I will have better input lag for consoles with the XG2431 than with my current XL2411P, right?
Re: ViewSonic XG2431 Discussion Thread [Blur Busters Approved XG2431 - 24" 240Hz IPS with Best Strobing]
Posted: 26 May 2022, 19:00
by Chief Blur Buster
Angel Soler wrote: ↑26 May 2022, 18:51
What you say is great.
So I will have better input lag for consoles with the XG2431 than with my current XL2411P, right?
I haven't lag benchmarked XL2411P vs XG2431.
But RTINGS measured XL2411P non-strobed latency to be similar (+/- 1ms error margin).
Since I know both XL2411P and XG2431 are horizontal scanrate multisync, it's fairly easy to extrapolate (assuming GtG unchanged)
Consequently, I think XL2411P vs XG2431 is probably similar (+/- 1ms error margin), assuming similar strobe utility adjustment settings.
Re: ViewSonic XG2431 Discussion Thread [Blur Busters Approved XG2431 - 24" 240Hz IPS with Best Strobing]
Posted: 26 May 2022, 19:00
by Chief Blur Buster
Angel Soler wrote: ↑26 May 2022, 18:51
What you say is great.
So I will have better input lag for consoles with the XG2431 than with my current XL2411P, right?
I haven't lag benchmarked XL2411P vs XG2431.
But RTINGS measured XL2411P non-strobed latency to be similar (+/- 1ms error margin).
Since I know both XL2411P and XG2431 are horizontal scanrate multisync, it's fairly easy to extrapolate (assuming GtG unchanged)
Consequently, I think XL2411P vs XG2431 is probably similar (+/- 1ms error margin), assuming similar strobe utility adjustment settings.
Re: ViewSonic XG2431 Discussion Thread [Blur Busters Approved XG2431 - 24" 240Hz IPS with Best Strobing]
Posted: 26 May 2022, 19:00
by Chief Blur Buster
Angel Soler wrote: ↑26 May 2022, 18:51
What you say is great.
So I will have better input lag for consoles with the XG2431 than with my current XL2411P, right?
I haven't lag benchmarked XL2411P vs XG2431.
But RTINGS measured XL2411P non-strobed latency to be similar (+/- 1ms error margin).
Since I know both XL2411P and XG2431 are horizontal scanrate multisync, it's fairly easy to extrapolate (assuming GtG unchanged)
Consequently, I think XL2411P vs XG2431 is probably similar (+/- 1ms error margin), assuming similar strobe utility adjustment settings.
Re: ViewSonic XG2431 Discussion Thread [Blur Busters Approved XG2431 - 24" 240Hz IPS with Best Strobing]
Posted: 26 May 2022, 19:00
by Chief Blur Buster
Angel Soler wrote: ↑26 May 2022, 18:51
What you say is great.
So I will have better input lag for consoles with the XG2431 than with my current XL2411P, right?
I haven't lag benchmarked XL2411P vs XG2431.
But RTINGS measured XL2411P non-strobed latency to be similar (+/- 1ms error margin).
Since I know both XL2411P and XG2431 are horizontal scanrate multisync, it's fairly easy to extrapolate (assuming GtG unchanged)
Consequently, I think XL2411P vs XG2431 is probably similar (+/- 1ms error margin), assuming similar strobe utility adjustment settings.
Remember latency is lowest just immediately above the crosstalk band.
When doing advanced-user strobe-tuning at
www.blurbusters.com/xg2431
The same latency-gradient effect happens on all strobed monitors with an adjustable strobe phase, including XL2411P and XG2431
Out-ot-the-box, the crosstalk bar is pre-tuned to be as off-screen as possible (for standard non-QFT ATSC HDTV-like modes of VT1125 used by consoles too).
Re: ViewSonic XG2431 Discussion Thread [Blur Busters Approved XG2431 - 24" 240Hz IPS with Best Strobing]
Posted: 26 May 2022, 19:34
by Prolific
Prolific wrote: ↑26 May 2022, 15:48
With the ViewSonic Strobe Utility, I notice that the animation will go fast then slow is this intended or a sign of some other issue?
What I am seeing is the animation playing at normal speed for around 10 seconds then switching to half speed for around 4 seconds but I think the exact intervals vary randomly. There is no issue when I play the animation in the browser.
Still Looking for Help Here.
Also how do you think the XG24131 performs against the Acer XV252Q FBMIIPRX both monitors in strobe mode @240hz with high VTs? The Acer will have more headroom as far as high VTs due to its higher default refresh rate but lacks the tunability of the ViewSonic Utility. I wonder which you think wins out in this use case as the game I play I maxes out at 240hz before weirdness sets in.
Re: ViewSonic XG2431 Discussion Thread [Blur Busters Approved XG2431 - 24" 240Hz IPS with Best Strobing]
Posted: 26 May 2022, 23:55
by Angel Soler
Chief Blur Buster wrote: ↑26 May 2022, 19:00
Angel Soler wrote: ↑26 May 2022, 18:51
What you say is great.
So I will have better input lag for consoles with the XG2431 than with my current XL2411P, right?
I haven't lag benchmarked XL2411P vs XG2431.
But RTINGS measured XL2411P non-strobed latency to be similar (+/- 1ms error margin).
Since I know both XL2411P and XG2431 are horizontal scanrate multisync, it's fairly easy to extrapolate (assuming GtG unchanged)
Consequently, I think XL2411P vs XG2431 is probably similar (+/- 1ms error margin), assuming similar strobe utility adjustment settings.
Remember latency is lowest just immediately above the crosstalk band.
When doing advanced-user strobe-tuning at
www.blurbusters.com/xg2431
The same latency-gradient effect happens on all strobed monitors with an adjustable strobe phase, including XL2411P and XG2431
Out-ot-the-box, the crosstalk bar is pre-tuned to be as off-screen as possible (for standard non-QFT ATSC HDTV-like modes of VT1125 used by consoles too).
okay. Yes, I remember all these concepts
. I have learned a lot with you
.
But... correct me if I'm wrong. In the case of consoles, since V-Sync is enabled in most games, the lag would be the same anywhere on the screen. It is right?
