ASUS ROG Swift 500Hz Announced!

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daviddave1
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Re: ASUS ROG Swift 500Hz Announced!

Post by daviddave1 » 14 Nov 2023, 08:21

Jefa35 wrote:
14 Nov 2023, 07:44
daviddave1 wrote:
14 Nov 2023, 07:13
Jefa35 wrote:
14 Nov 2023, 04:45
daviddave1 wrote:
13 Nov 2023, 06:44

Tnx. I found it out later also.
I could not believe anyone would play on a monitor with 150 nits or even 30 nits. And did not understand why these options are in there.
It had to be a mistake the way Hardware unboxed CASUALLY said that 150nits! is a good balance between playabilty and motionblur deductibility. (He says this is the ULMB2 video https://youtu.be/LZndZ7NWnZs?si=MxwKDHwOqvYalNS8&t=720 12:02 .)
Evidently these people do exist and dont have a superdark sunglasses expierencie with nits that low. Me personally I feel like a blind man needing a blindman stick to aim with 150 nits. Respectfully.
It is not only about personal experience, if we talk about competitive FPS games where you need optimal visibility, anything below 250 nits is simply not sufficient. Being used to a mediocre brightness like 150 nits doesn't mean it is good enough.

Not saying you need over 400 nits to see well in game, but 250-300 nits range is the minimum depending on how bright you room is.
The PG27AQN was to dark with its 270 nits. Had to send it back. So did Hausgames, Hausgames do find that the ~300 nits on the pg248qp are sufficiënt. He said the pg248qp IS darker then the Zowies XL2566K. This makes me doubt in buying this monitor cause the XL2566K was not the brightest ( XL2456K was brghter)
I will probely buy it at amazon when its availble in W Europe. If its to dark I send it back and most likely buy the Acer Nitro XV242F 540 hz that uses the same panel but withouth ULMB2.
300-350 nits on the PG248QP, which is already pretty good, is with ULMB 2.0 on. Without it the monitor can display over 400 nits which is way enough.
And this new eTN panel is already excellent without BFI, I wouldn't even bother using BFI on it and prioritize a lower input lag + better brightness. That's why I am definitely looking forward the Acer XV242F, it would also allow me to save a few hundreds euros (Asus is overpriced in Europe + extra euros for GSync module...).
It should not be 350. Optimum Techs readings where incorrect. Hardwareunboxed measured 300 nits. Cause the monitor is darker then the 348 nits XL2566K this makes sense.
| Now:
| Past: XL2586X 540Hz/PG248QP/271QRX/VG259QM with the Qisda panel/PG27AQN/XL2566K

Jefa35
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Re: ASUS ROG Swift 500Hz Announced!

Post by Jefa35 » 14 Nov 2023, 08:32

daviddave1 wrote:
14 Nov 2023, 08:21
Jefa35 wrote:
14 Nov 2023, 07:44
daviddave1 wrote:
14 Nov 2023, 07:13
Jefa35 wrote:
14 Nov 2023, 04:45


It is not only about personal experience, if we talk about competitive FPS games where you need optimal visibility, anything below 250 nits is simply not sufficient. Being used to a mediocre brightness like 150 nits doesn't mean it is good enough.

Not saying you need over 400 nits to see well in game, but 250-300 nits range is the minimum depending on how bright you room is.
The PG27AQN was to dark with its 270 nits. Had to send it back. So did Hausgames, Hausgames do find that the ~300 nits on the pg248qp are sufficiënt. He said the pg248qp IS darker then the Zowies XL2566K. This makes me doubt in buying this monitor cause the XL2566K was not the brightest ( XL2456K was brghter)
I will probely buy it at amazon when its availble in W Europe. If its to dark I send it back and most likely buy the Acer Nitro XV242F 540 hz that uses the same panel but withouth ULMB2.
300-350 nits on the PG248QP, which is already pretty good, is with ULMB 2.0 on. Without it the monitor can display over 400 nits which is way enough.
And this new eTN panel is already excellent without BFI, I wouldn't even bother using BFI on it and prioritize a lower input lag + better brightness. That's why I am definitely looking forward the Acer XV242F, it would also allow me to save a few hundreds euros (Asus is overpriced in Europe + extra euros for GSync module...).
It should not be 350. Optimum Techs readings where incorrect. Hardwareunboxed measured 300 nits. Cause the monitor is darker then the 348 nits XL2566K this makes sense.
We'll see the more in depth reviews by rtings / tftcentral, but 300 nits with ULMB 2.0 on is good. XL2566K with DyAc+ drops to 280 nits.
PC: 3080 FE - 7800X3D / Monitor: VG259QM 280Hz / Mouse: Finalmouse UltralightX Guardian Medium / Keyboard: Wooting 60HE / Mousepads: Artisan Zero Soft, Hayate Otsu Soft, Raiden Mid, Hien Soft

daviddave1
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Re: ASUS ROG Swift 500Hz Announced!

Post by daviddave1 » 14 Nov 2023, 08:59

Jefa35 wrote:
14 Nov 2023, 08:32
daviddave1 wrote:
14 Nov 2023, 08:21
Jefa35 wrote:
14 Nov 2023, 07:44
daviddave1 wrote:
14 Nov 2023, 07:13


The PG27AQN was to dark with its 270 nits. Had to send it back. So did Hausgames, Hausgames do find that the ~300 nits on the pg248qp are sufficiënt. He said the pg248qp IS darker then the Zowies XL2566K. This makes me doubt in buying this monitor cause the XL2566K was not the brightest ( XL2456K was brghter)
I will probely buy it at amazon when its availble in W Europe. If its to dark I send it back and most likely buy the Acer Nitro XV242F 540 hz that uses the same panel but withouth ULMB2.
300-350 nits on the PG248QP, which is already pretty good, is with ULMB 2.0 on. Without it the monitor can display over 400 nits which is way enough.
And this new eTN panel is already excellent without BFI, I wouldn't even bother using BFI on it and prioritize a lower input lag + better brightness. That's why I am definitely looking forward the Acer XV242F, it would also allow me to save a few hundreds euros (Asus is overpriced in Europe + extra euros for GSync module...).
It should not be 350. Optimum Techs readings where incorrect. Hardwareunboxed measured 300 nits. Cause the monitor is darker then the 348 nits XL2566K this makes sense.
We'll see the more in depth reviews by rtings / tftcentral, but 300 nits with ULMB 2.0 on is good. XL2566K with DyAc+ drops to 280 nits.
Then the PG248QP will have lower nits then 280 cause the PG248QP gets darker then the XL2566K.
( but https://www.displayninja.com/benq-zowie-xl2566k-review/ https://www.techspot.com/review/2681-be ... e-xl2566k/ etc say different. The first states xl2566K has 352 nits with dyac plus
| Now:
| Past: XL2586X 540Hz/PG248QP/271QRX/VG259QM with the Qisda panel/PG27AQN/XL2566K

Jefa35
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Re: ASUS ROG Swift 500Hz Announced!

Post by Jefa35 » 14 Nov 2023, 09:18

daviddave1 wrote:
14 Nov 2023, 08:59
Jefa35 wrote:
14 Nov 2023, 08:32
daviddave1 wrote:
14 Nov 2023, 08:21
Jefa35 wrote:
14 Nov 2023, 07:44


300-350 nits on the PG248QP, which is already pretty good, is with ULMB 2.0 on. Without it the monitor can display over 400 nits which is way enough.
And this new eTN panel is already excellent without BFI, I wouldn't even bother using BFI on it and prioritize a lower input lag + better brightness. That's why I am definitely looking forward the Acer XV242F, it would also allow me to save a few hundreds euros (Asus is overpriced in Europe + extra euros for GSync module...).
It should not be 350. Optimum Techs readings where incorrect. Hardwareunboxed measured 300 nits. Cause the monitor is darker then the 348 nits XL2566K this makes sense.
We'll see the more in depth reviews by rtings / tftcentral, but 300 nits with ULMB 2.0 on is good. XL2566K with DyAc+ drops to 280 nits.
Then the PG248QP will have lower nits then 280 cause the PG248QP gets darker then the XL2566K.
( but https://www.displayninja.com/benq-zowie-xl2566k-review/ https://www.techspot.com/review/2681-be ... e-xl2566k/ etc say different. The first states xl2566K has 352 nits with dyac plus
280nits is the measure from rtings for the xl2566k with DyAc, some other reviews say otherwise. We'll see when full in depth reviews for PG248QP come out.
PC: 3080 FE - 7800X3D / Monitor: VG259QM 280Hz / Mouse: Finalmouse UltralightX Guardian Medium / Keyboard: Wooting 60HE / Mousepads: Artisan Zero Soft, Hayate Otsu Soft, Raiden Mid, Hien Soft

Hitesh12
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Re: ASUS ROG Swift 500Hz Announced!

Post by Hitesh12 » 16 Nov 2023, 01:35

Jefa35 wrote:
14 Nov 2023, 07:44
daviddave1 wrote:
14 Nov 2023, 07:13
Jefa35 wrote:
14 Nov 2023, 04:45
daviddave1 wrote:
13 Nov 2023, 06:44

Tnx. I found it out later also.
I could not believe anyone would play on a monitor with 150 nits or even 30 nits. And did not understand why these options are in there.
It had to be a mistake the way Hardware unboxed CASUALLY said that 150nits! is a good balance between playabilty and motionblur deductibility. (He says this is the ULMB2 video https://youtu.be/LZndZ7NWnZs?si=MxwKDHwOqvYalNS8&t=720 12:02 .)
Evidently these people do exist and dont have a superdark sunglasses expierencie with nits that low. Me personally I feel like a blind man needing a blindman stick to aim with 150 nits. Respectfully.
It is not only about personal experience, if we talk about competitive FPS games where you need optimal visibility, anything below 250 nits is simply not sufficient. Being used to a mediocre brightness like 150 nits doesn't mean it is good enough.

Not saying you need over 400 nits to see well in game, but 250-300 nits range is the minimum depending on how bright you room is.
The PG27AQN was to dark with its 270 nits. Had to send it back. So did Hausgames, Hausgames do find that the ~300 nits on the pg248qp are sufficiënt. He said the pg248qp IS darker then the Zowies XL2566K. This makes me doubt in buying this monitor cause the XL2566K was not the brightest ( XL2456K was brghter)
I will probely buy it at amazon when its availble in W Europe. If its to dark I send it back and most likely buy the Acer Nitro XV242F 540 hz that uses the same panel but withouth ULMB2.
300-350 nits on the PG248QP, which is already pretty good, is with ULMB 2.0 on. Without it the monitor can display over 400 nits which is way enough.
And this new eTN panel is already excellent without BFI, I wouldn't even bother using BFI on it and prioritize a lower input lag + better brightness. That's why I am definitely looking forward the Acer XV242F, it would also allow me to save a few hundreds euros (Asus is overpriced in Europe + extra euros for GSync module...).
Does disabling BFI reduces input lag?

Jefa35
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Re: ASUS ROG Swift 500Hz Announced!

Post by Jefa35 » 16 Nov 2023, 08:55

Hitesh12 wrote:
16 Nov 2023, 01:35
Jefa35 wrote:
14 Nov 2023, 07:44
daviddave1 wrote:
14 Nov 2023, 07:13
Jefa35 wrote:
14 Nov 2023, 04:45


It is not only about personal experience, if we talk about competitive FPS games where you need optimal visibility, anything below 250 nits is simply not sufficient. Being used to a mediocre brightness like 150 nits doesn't mean it is good enough.

Not saying you need over 400 nits to see well in game, but 250-300 nits range is the minimum depending on how bright you room is.
The PG27AQN was to dark with its 270 nits. Had to send it back. So did Hausgames, Hausgames do find that the ~300 nits on the pg248qp are sufficiënt. He said the pg248qp IS darker then the Zowies XL2566K. This makes me doubt in buying this monitor cause the XL2566K was not the brightest ( XL2456K was brghter)
I will probely buy it at amazon when its availble in W Europe. If its to dark I send it back and most likely buy the Acer Nitro XV242F 540 hz that uses the same panel but withouth ULMB2.
300-350 nits on the PG248QP, which is already pretty good, is with ULMB 2.0 on. Without it the monitor can display over 400 nits which is way enough.
And this new eTN panel is already excellent without BFI, I wouldn't even bother using BFI on it and prioritize a lower input lag + better brightness. That's why I am definitely looking forward the Acer XV242F, it would also allow me to save a few hundreds euros (Asus is overpriced in Europe + extra euros for GSync module...).
Does disabling BFI reduces input lag?
BFI increases input lag, hence yes disabling it will decrease it and make it back to the "normal" input lag of the display. On the XL2566K we talking about 2.1ms vs 3.9ms input lag with BFI according to rtings. And if you want your BFI to be efficient, you need fps>Hz which can be tricky on a 540Hz display, or you need to use BFI at lower Hz (then you kinda waste the potential of the monitor...).
Considering the fact that this new 540Hz is already excellent without BFI, I don't think paying the extra for the GSync module and ULMB 2.0 of the Asus is worth.
PC: 3080 FE - 7800X3D / Monitor: VG259QM 280Hz / Mouse: Finalmouse UltralightX Guardian Medium / Keyboard: Wooting 60HE / Mousepads: Artisan Zero Soft, Hayate Otsu Soft, Raiden Mid, Hien Soft

NDUS
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Re: ASUS ROG Swift 500Hz Announced!

Post by NDUS » 16 Nov 2023, 16:23

I bought a PG248QP 540hz and here's a little bit of hilarity. There is currently no way to mount it with VESA safely.

The box comes with no VESA equipment, unlike some of Asus' other monitors.

If you try to mount it to your monitor arm, you will discover that a standard VESA mounting plate blocks the G-sync fan. Yes, they put the g-sync fan's only ventilation intake INSIDE THE VESA MOUNT! Lmao

So looking at Asus other monitors that don't cost $900, they include a special VESA plate and standoffs that allows the gsync module to get air. But the instructions for PG248QP 540hz simply say: "The 100x100 VESA wall mount kit is purchased separately."
If you Google, there is no such kit from Asus. At least not in the US market.

So if you spend $900 on this monitor and are hoping to use it with a monitor arm, sorry - not happening

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Re: ASUS ROG Swift 500Hz Announced!

Post by daviddave1 » 16 Nov 2023, 17:38

NDUS wrote:
16 Nov 2023, 16:23
I bought a PG248QP 540hz and here's a little bit of hilarity. There is currently no way to mount it with VESA safely.

The box comes with no VESA equipment, unlike some of Asus' other monitors.

If you try to mount it to your monitor arm, you will discover that a standard VESA mounting plate blocks the G-sync fan. Yes, they put the g-sync fan's only ventilation intake INSIDE THE VESA MOUNT! Lmao

So looking at Asus other monitors that don't cost $900, they include a special VESA plate and standoffs that allows the gsync module to get air. But the instructions for PG248QP 540hz simply say: "The 100x100 VESA wall mount kit is purchased separately."
If you Google, there is no such kit from Asus. At least not in the US market.

So if you spend $900 on this monitor and are hoping to use it with a monitor arm, sorry - not happening
Interesting. Ty for sharing! This monitor is about to hit the EU market prob. Next week. Hope to buy it then. If I get stuck on this matter I will mail Asus support.

Can u please tell me what monitor u had before this monitor and how the brightness hold up with ulmb2 with 100 pulsewidth on the pg248qp compared to your old monitor when u enabled backlightstrobing on your old monitor? (If it had backlightstrobing ofc)
I am very curious what monitor u had before! hope to hear from u!!
| Now:
| Past: XL2586X 540Hz/PG248QP/271QRX/VG259QM with the Qisda panel/PG27AQN/XL2566K

NDUS
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Re: ASUS ROG Swift 500Hz Announced!

Post by NDUS » 16 Nov 2023, 17:55

daviddave1 wrote:
16 Nov 2023, 17:38
NDUS wrote:
16 Nov 2023, 16:23
I bought a PG248QP 540hz and here's a little bit of hilarity. There is currently no way to mount it with VESA safely.

The box comes with no VESA equipment, unlike some of Asus' other monitors.

If you try to mount it to your monitor arm, you will discover that a standard VESA mounting plate blocks the G-sync fan. Yes, they put the g-sync fan's only ventilation intake INSIDE THE VESA MOUNT! Lmao

So looking at Asus other monitors that don't cost $900, they include a special VESA plate and standoffs that allows the gsync module to get air. But the instructions for PG248QP 540hz simply say: "The 100x100 VESA wall mount kit is purchased separately."
If you Google, there is no such kit from Asus. At least not in the US market.

So if you spend $900 on this monitor and are hoping to use it with a monitor arm, sorry - not happening
Interesting. Ty for sharing! This monitor is about to hit the EU market prob. Next week. Hope to buy it then. If I get stuck on this matter I will mail Asus support.

Can u please tell me what monitor u had before this monitor and how the brightness hold up with ulmb2 with 100 pulsewidth on the pg248qp compared to your old monitor when u enabled backlightstrobing on your old monitor? (If it had backlightstrobing ofc)
I am very curious what monitor u had before! hope to hear from u!!
I had a XL2540, which has BFI in the factory menu

The PG248QP has more brightness with ULMB + 100 pulsewidth, maybe 50-75% brighter to my eyeballs. But my XL2540 is old (purchased at release date) and backlights decrease in brightness with age so it's not the fairest comparison.

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Re: ASUS ROG Swift 500Hz Announced!

Post by daviddave1 » 16 Nov 2023, 18:25

NDUS wrote:
16 Nov 2023, 17:55
daviddave1 wrote:
16 Nov 2023, 17:38
NDUS wrote:
16 Nov 2023, 16:23
I bought a PG248QP 540hz and here's a little bit of hilarity. There is currently no way to mount it with VESA safely.

The box comes with no VESA equipment, unlike some of Asus' other monitors.

If you try to mount it to your monitor arm, you will discover that a standard VESA mounting plate blocks the G-sync fan. Yes, they put the g-sync fan's only ventilation intake INSIDE THE VESA MOUNT! Lmao

So looking at Asus other monitors that don't cost $900, they include a special VESA plate and standoffs that allows the gsync module to get air. But the instructions for PG248QP 540hz simply say: "The 100x100 VESA wall mount kit is purchased separately."
If you Google, there is no such kit from Asus. At least not in the US market.

So if you spend $900 on this monitor and are hoping to use it with a monitor arm, sorry - not happening
Interesting. Ty for sharing! This monitor is about to hit the EU market prob. Next week. Hope to buy it then. If I get stuck on this matter I will mail Asus support.

Can u please tell me what monitor u had before this monitor and how the brightness hold up with ulmb2 with 100 pulsewidth on the pg248qp compared to your old monitor when u enabled backlightstrobing on your old monitor? (If it had backlightstrobing ofc)
I am very curious what monitor u had before! hope to hear from u!!
I had a XL2540, which has BFI in the factory menu

The PG248QP has more brightness with ULMB + 100 pulsewidth, maybe 50-75% brighter to my eyeballs. But my XL2540 is old (purchased at release date) and backlights decrease in brightness with age so it's not the fairest comparison.
Nice, ty for the fast and complete answer! Appreciated!
| Now:
| Past: XL2586X 540Hz/PG248QP/271QRX/VG259QM with the Qisda panel/PG27AQN/XL2566K

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