News on the ROG Swift (PG278Q)

Talk about NVIDIA G-SYNC, a variable refresh rate (VRR) technology. G-SYNC eliminates stutters, tearing, and reduces input lag. List of G-SYNC Monitors.
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Re: News on the ROG Swift (PG278Q)

Post by Papagaj » 21 Jul 2014, 12:53

Edmond wrote:Dunno, after all the reviews it seems more and more like your average TN panel. Like any of the crappy 1080p 120hz screens out there... just with higher res.
lol?

I'm definately going to buy the Swift and my primary reasons are:

1. bye bye tearing
2. bye bye stutters ( I do play Diablo 3 a lot and the game is just a pure garbage. With V-SYNC it just stutters sometimes even if FPS shows 60 fps. With V-SYNC off I'm having a gigantic tearing all over my monitor and from various sources i've heard that Diablo 3 feels like a completly different game with G SYNC)

...so the Swift is not like "any other crappy TN" cos it has G-SYNC and that's why i want it.

I believe that Swift will be the savior of my gaming experience :D SOmebody said awhile ago on this forums that G SYNC is the best thing for a gamer past 10-15 years.

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Re: News on the ROG Swift (PG278Q)

Post by PoWn3d_0704 » 21 Jul 2014, 23:09

Papagaj wrote:
Edmond wrote:Dunno, after all the reviews it seems more and more like your average TN panel. Like any of the crappy 1080p 120hz screens out there... just with higher res.
lol?

I'm definately going to buy the Swift and my primary reasons are:

1. bye bye tearing
2. bye bye stutters ( I do play Diablo 3 a lot and the game is just a pure garbage. With V-SYNC it just stutters sometimes even if FPS shows 60 fps. With V-SYNC off I'm having a gigantic tearing all over my monitor and from various sources i've heard that Diablo 3 feels like a completly different game with G SYNC)

...so the Swift is not like "any other crappy TN" cos it has G-SYNC and that's why i want it.

I believe that Swift will be the savior of my gaming experience :D SOmebody said awhile ago on this forums that G SYNC is the best thing for a gamer past 10-15 years.
CAREFUL. I sense really high expectations. Basically, if the GAME lags around then there is nothing GSync can do. If your PC lags around then GSync will tkae care of you.
Asus VG248QE with GSync. Blur Busters GSync Contest Winner.

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Re: News on the ROG Swift (PG278Q)

Post by PoWn3d_0704 » 21 Jul 2014, 23:12

Edmond wrote:Dunno, after all the reviews it seems more and more like your average TN panel. Like any of the crappy 1080p 120hz screens out there... just with higher res.

But i havent seen it in person, so dunno... but it certainly isnt worth the early adopter price, imo.

Still the Swift is in the right direction. Although im not going back to tn.
I own a Dell IPS. It looks beautiful. Sometimes I watch movies on it. In games? I dont give a flaying monkey's tooshie about colors. I am too competitve. All I want to know is the appropriate amount of information given to me, quickley enough, to kill the guy on the other end of the netcode. IPS screens dont do that.

This is why I have a 144Hz TN and an IPS. I get both. So I can honestly say 'screw color quality' with my gaming screen.
Asus VG248QE with GSync. Blur Busters GSync Contest Winner.

Edmond

Re: News on the ROG Swift (PG278Q)

Post by Edmond » 22 Jul 2014, 06:46

PoWn3d_0704 wrote: I own a Dell IPS. It looks beautiful. Sometimes I watch movies on it. In games? I dont give a flaying monkey's tooshie about colors. I am too competitve. All I want to know is the appropriate amount of information given to me, quickley enough, to kill the guy on the other end of the netcode. IPS screens dont do that.

This is why I have a 144Hz TN and an IPS. I get both. So I can honestly say 'screw color quality' with my gaming screen.
I dont want to consciously hold my head still when gaming to avoid color and brightness shift.
Also that TN flare... yuck. Feels like im damaging my eyes just looking at it.
I want a single monitor. For comfort and money reasons.
And i want to enjoy the games that i play. If i would get 100% of my enjoyment only from winning, i would play games entirely without graphics at all... in code if i can.

The most liberating monitor would be a variable refresh rate IPS. And BECAUSE we saw this in computex a few months ago already... im ok with waiting. 60hz doesnt bother me if its artifact free and smooth, especially on an uniformed beautiful IPS.

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Re: News on the ROG Swift (PG278Q)

Post by omgBlur » 22 Jul 2014, 07:13

Edmond wrote: 60hz doesnt bother me if its artifact free and smooth, especially on an uniformed beautiful IPS.
ಥ_ಥ But this is Blurbusters.com.... For everything better than 60Hz™
I dont want to consciously hold my head still when gaming to avoid color and brightness shift.
Also that TN flare... yuck. Feels like im damaging my eyes just looking at it.
You must have either had one heck of a bad TN monitor that left a very, very sour impression or completely erased TN memories after you got IPS. The ratio to which the color/brightness shifts to angle is literally impossible to achieve those type of results unless it's the worse of the worse of TN panels. I use TN monitors at work & home. I constantly start my sessions standing up straight, but over time I'll slouch forward or lay back on my chair and the color/brightness shift is barely unnoticeable compared to looking at it from an acute angle.
The most liberating monitor would be a variable refresh rate IPS. And BECAUSE we saw this in computex a few months ago already... im ok with waiting.
I agree 100%, but we are still uncertain how long it will take before something of that caliber is released. We just saw said monitor @ Computex last month. Last week AMD talked about their FreeSync progress and we won't be expecting this monitors for a lot longer now (probably a year or two, possibly three). If you're willing to wait that time, great, I hope FreeSync does better than it has shown thus far. I'm in the market for a new monitor now and Nvidia's hardware has been great for me. I've seen G-Syncs magic in person and it really is something you must see to believe.

Edmond

Re: News on the ROG Swift (PG278Q)

Post by Edmond » 22 Jul 2014, 08:38

omgBlur wrote: ಥ_ಥ But this is Blurbusters.com.... For everything better than 60Hz™
I didnt mean it like that!! XD

I love high refresh rates, im just trying to find the best compromise.
omgBlur wrote:
I dont want to consciously hold my head still when gaming to avoid color and brightness shift.
Also that TN flare... yuck. Feels like im damaging my eyes just looking at it.
You must have either had one heck of a bad TN monitor that left a very, very sour impression or completely erased TN memories after you got IPS. The ratio to which the color/brightness shifts to angle is literally impossible to achieve those type of results unless it's the worse of the worse of TN panels. I use TN monitors at work & home. I constantly start my sessions standing up straight, but over time I'll slouch forward or lay back on my chair and the color/brightness shift is barely unnoticeable compared to looking at it from an acute angle.
The most liberating monitor would be a variable refresh rate IPS. And BECAUSE we saw this in computex a few months ago already... im ok with waiting.
I agree 100%, but we are still uncertain how long it will take before something of that caliber is released. We just saw said monitor @ Computex last month. Last week AMD talked about their FreeSync progress and we won't be expecting this monitors for a lot longer now (probably a year or two, possibly three). If you're willing to wait that time, great, I hope FreeSync does better than it has shown thus far. I'm in the market for a new monitor now and Nvidia's hardware has been great for me. I've seen G-Syncs magic in person and it really is something you must see to believe.
I would appreciate if you linked me to where you heard the latest news on freesync.
If its really seems like you said, im not waiting for billions of years, ill get that acer 8bit 1080p 144hz TN in september.

I want variable refresh rate monitors very much, and i dont care which companies video card i have to use, ill switch accordingly.
Just - if by waiting a little i can get a variable refresh IPS, ill wait. Or ill take a break from gaming entirely till the first variable refresh 21:9 ips comes out.

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Re: News on the ROG Swift (PG278Q)

Post by omgBlur » 22 Jul 2014, 08:52

Here is the sauce. As requested.


http://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-pr ... 27160.html

Or if you search for "AMD Clears the air around project Freesync" on Google, you'll get other articles.

Edmond

Re: News on the ROG Swift (PG278Q)

Post by Edmond » 22 Jul 2014, 09:36

omgBlur wrote:Here is the sauce. As requested.


http://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-pr ... 27160.html

Or if you search for "AMD Clears the air around project Freesync" on Google, you'll get other articles.
Thank you!

I may be mildly retarded, but i couldn't pick up anything from that article that would suggest freesync monitors would take loner than what we heard @ computex2014. Or that TN or IPS would make a difference. The article even reminded that the 1440p monitor @ computex was an ips, thats it.

Either way, amd promised to send prototypes to tech sites by the end of the year. And well see whats what by then for sure. So, waiting till Oct/Nov or smth seems quite reasonable to see whats happening. Dont want to switch to TN, especially if variable IPS could be very close.

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Re: News on the ROG Swift (PG278Q)

Post by omgBlur » 22 Jul 2014, 10:23

Edmond wrote:
omgBlur wrote:Here is the sauce. As requested.


http://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-pr ... 27160.html

Or if you search for "AMD Clears the air around project Freesync" on Google, you'll get other articles.
Thank you!

I may be mildly retarded, but i couldn't pick up anything from that article that would suggest freesync monitors would take loner than what we heard @ computex2014. Or that TN or IPS would make a difference. The article even reminded that the 1440p monitor @ computex was an ips, thats it.

Either way, amd promised to send prototypes to tech sites by the end of the year. And well see whats what by then for sure. So, waiting till Oct/Nov or smth seems quite reasonable to see whats happening. Dont want to switch to TN, especially if variable IPS could be very close.
Well you are technically correct. At the top of the article it says

"It looks like Adaptive-Sync might just become standard fare on DisplayPort-enabled monitors a couple years down the road."

The article itself doesn't specifically say how long till we see them, but it also doesn't say how soon. The discussion in the comments also talks about year(s). It's bothering that it's even mentioned in the article because AMD hasn't even confirmed any statements related to how long till we see a display for sale.

The article itself is rather disappointing, if someone were to do a TL;DR on this. It would be:
TL;DR - We're working on it.

Edmond

Re: News on the ROG Swift (PG278Q)

Post by Edmond » 22 Jul 2014, 10:51

omgBlur wrote:
Well you are technically correct. At the top of the article it says

"It looks like Adaptive-Sync might just become standard fare on DisplayPort-enabled monitors a couple years down the road."

The article itself doesn't specifically say how long till we see them, but it also doesn't say how soon. The discussion in the comments also talks about year(s). It's bothering that it's even mentioned in the article because AMD hasn't even confirmed any statements related to how long till we see a display for sale.

The article itself is rather disappointing, if someone were to do a TL;DR on this. It would be:
TL;DR - We're working on it.
The title is written by the site. It could mean something questionable if in the article itself AMD would had not given the 6-12months period again, which we heard @ computex before too.
On top of that the article talks about how much faster market adoption freesync will have compared to gsync. (but this again sounds like something the writers thought would be nice to say instead of being actual info)

Comments also mean nothing(as far as new information on the subject), unless its from someone whos name matters.

I think the "years" title was directed towards the part - "AMD is actively working with these scaler vendors to bring Adaptive-Sync support into their higher-end scalers, and the company expects the mainstream scalers to gain support for the features very soon as well."

Meaning, expensive high end freesync monitors are being made now. And mainstream will get freesync in those "years".

But i agree, that mostly its a worthless article that means nothing besides that freesync didnt trip and die on the way to the bathroom.
Any real info from amd there is the same "6-12 months" we heard @ computex already. (Wich means the same as "gsync monitors being available @ q1 2014") Definatelly dont feel like amd cleared ANYTHING up with these answers.

Again, either way. Im patiently waiting till oct/nov, as amd promised to deliver prototypes to tech sites.

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