Re: Laser projectors general? [zero lag & zero blur!!!]
Posted: 20 Jan 2016, 10:38
I wouldn't call OLED, 4K and HDR dumb gimmicks. With the three we could finally have wall-sized simulacra in the near future (<10 years if you're rich).
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aeliusg wrote:I wouldn't call OLED, 4K and HDR dumb gimmicks.
He didn't he only called HDR a dumb gimmick.thatoneguy wrote:hyping OLED,4K and dumb gimmicks like HDR
Yeah and why is that? Because people like large flat screens it doesn't matter that much what is shown on the screen as long as it is readable its fine. Old lcd's were total crap drag a window around and the ghosting trail was horrendous the things that were good were the brightness, weight, size and energy consumption. Perfect for middle-aged people who have to type word documents and fill in excel sheets and occasionally play a card game while their boss isn't looking. Even the boss will be happy you can cheap out on a sturdy desks and energy consumption goes down a bit. I think it is pretty sad that lcd became this popular for desktops but I think the majority of the people were pretty happy about it. I dont think it was a bad development for most applications but for gamers, graphic artists and movie lovers it really is and was. And I would have preferred it if they had just continued developing high end crt's or similar technology for this group. Luckily oled is just a few steps away now and most likely it will fix all of the problems although probably 20 years too late.thatoneguy wrote:Dude,the industry was shilling LCD way back in 2001
Remember when Windows XP came out and they changed the My Computer Logo from a CRT to a LCD?
There was way too much stock in LCD and they made sure it was going to win no matter what it took
I didn't say he did.Trip wrote:aeliusg wrote:I wouldn't call OLED, 4K and HDR dumb gimmicks.He didn't he only called HDR a dumb gimmick.thatoneguy wrote:hyping OLED,4K and dumb gimmicks like HDR

thatoneguy wrote:and dumb gimmicks like HDR
Anyone calling HDR a dumb gimmick obviously has little clue about the human visual system, color volumes, etc, and immediately makes me consider their opinions re: display technology to be largely without merit or insight.aeliusg wrote:I wouldn't call OLED, 4K and HDR dumb gimmicks. With the three we could finally have wall-sized simulacra in the near future (<10 years if you're rich).
Haha, that's funny, I was considering buying two of these pico projectors to do just that, run them in parallel to do pseudo HDR.Light23 wrote:High dynamic range IS awesome.
By giving each projector a different gamma setting I wonder if that would make my 2d monitor HDR'ish since it uses 2 projectors?
http://www.firstshowing.net/2015/dolby- ... tion-demo/
I know, I know, the Sony is probably doing 8 bits.
But HDR can work with 8 bits. The limited range of traditional video, 16-235, or full range 0-255.
[Another upside to having such a great contrast ratio is it increases the perceived resolution.]
A few years ago Cnet's Geoffrey Morrison did a TV face-off with trained TV reviewers and untrained participants with Pioneer's Kuro plasma (768p) against several 1080p LCDs and plasmas. Not one person noticed the Kuro wasn't 1080p. In fact, most lauded it for its detail. Why? Its contrast ratio was so much better than on the other TVs that it appeared to have better resolution. The difference between light and dark is resolution. If that difference is more pronounced, as it is on high-contrast ratio displays, they will have more apparent resolution.
Can you answer this please? it's very interesting.test123 wrote:Do you use SVP for motion interpolation? What do you use for video deblurring? That's a great idea, i never thought about deblurring smudged frames to get the full benefit of motion interpolation.RLBURNSIDE wrote: Well, the title of this thread is "laser projectors general", although rear projection could be considered similar to a traditional TV or monitor.
I agree about low refresh rates and scanned displays, I used to hate 60hz flicker on CRTs and wouldn't even consider using one lower than 72hz, 85+ ideally.
But running at 120hz would be great for a raster display, since it's a common multiple of 24, 30, and 60, and would result in pretty low lag and latency, plus it's easy to simply repeat frames to maintain the cadence of the original material.
Even if you enjoy frame interpolation (like I do) on movies, if you had, say, a 72hz or 120hz display instead of a 60hz one, and was watching lowly 24p movies interpolated, then the quality of the interpolation would be better for the simple fact that there's no cadence mismatch and you only see 2/3 or 4/5 of the frames are interpolated, with 1/3 or 1/5 being the original. That said, you'd still have to reduce the motion blur quite significantly in the "key" frames. Super fast frame rate with blurry frames looks the same, just a slightly smoother blur. That's actually the purpose of motion blur caked into the frames of 24p movies, it's to mask the low framerate. As soon as you run a higher framerate you need to first de-blur, then interpolate the sharper keyframes. And deblurring is a tough problem. It can be done but not perfectly.
I don't think this project makes sense at computer monitor sizes, personally. Especially not when OLED PC monitors are out now and prices will inevitably come down.
what is hdr and why do i care?spacediver wrote: HDR is probably the most important development in display technology since the transition to HD. It is far from a gimmick.