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Re: Can "input lag/desync" eletrical issue come back in a new house?

Posted: 18 Oct 2022, 12:10
by cybepine
"The LEDs on my keyboard generate a substantial amount of EMI. Prior to installing this device (USB isolator), the EMI contaminated my motherboard's USB power bus, which in turn generated audible buzzing through my USB DAC. I placed this device between the keyboard and my motherboard, and it eliminated the buzzing though my DAC."

Try to use normal keyboard (without LEDs) or different mouse (old mouse, no LEDs). But then again (you're right) it's very likely not from the mouse. But could be from the LED keyboard.
Iserverthefirelord,
Did you buy something new (electrical equipment, cables, wall wart?)?
With this question I meant to ask, if you remember when the "lag" started (second time), if you bought something new during that time.

Re: Can "input lag/desync" eletrical issue come back in a new house?

Posted: 18 Oct 2022, 13:30
by Unixko
obviously if you goona try ground our self with anti-static wrist strap or something else its not gonna work
source is electromagnetic field caused by you
more specific low frequency one which is interrupt your rams which has under control all movements to be synced
if you are under stress hormon which is generate low frequency magnetic field you not gonna have good perception when you sit in front of pc
what people are doing here is very dangerously because reality is placebo can fix all your problem (but better is fix your life from scratch what ever happens in your life must be fixed because you dont wanna live under stress hormon which is generate negative magnetic field )
you can have literally somebody which you belive to tell you this is that is gonna fix your problem and if you belive him enough you will get improvement instantly
but if you not gonna belive in anything you will never get any improvement for long enough and you will always suffer from degrade situation no matter what you change
you can found what ever source and object about that and its up to you if you will belive or not but we alrdy now that nobody knows about what we are talking about we cant even recorded that properly because is our perception not everybody
https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10 ... 84412/full
https://fb.watch/g8VN5ZTddW/

Re: Can "input lag/desync" eletrical issue come back in a new house?

Posted: 18 Oct 2022, 14:16
by Cyanide_
cybepine wrote:
18 Oct 2022, 12:10
"The LEDs on my keyboard generate a substantial amount of EMI. Prior to installing this device (USB isolator), the EMI contaminated my motherboard's USB power bus, which in turn generated audible buzzing through my USB DAC. I placed this device between the keyboard and my motherboard, and it eliminated the buzzing though my DAC."

Try to use normal keyboard (without LEDs) or different mouse (old mouse, no LEDs). But then again (you're right) it's very likely not from the mouse. But could be from the LED keyboard.
I can turn off all the LEDs for testing, I do have old membrane keyboard and some cheap basic office mouse (with low polling rate I guess) too.
I did that in the past (off leds, swapped mouse&keyboard) but idk maybe things are different this time. After reading about RGB in RAM messing up with stability I won't be surprised.
With this question I meant to ask, if you remember when the "lag" started (second time), if you bought something new during that time.
Oh, I see now. No, don't really remember that. I was just playing with friends one day, and next day got this shitty lag.
I've tried turning off everything & taking out all plugs, leaving only PC online. And shutting down everything in switch box, besides outlet for PC. Nada.

Re: Can "input lag/desync" eletrical issue come back in a new house?

Posted: 19 Oct 2022, 02:01
by cybepine
Ok, I just checked your monitor.
Why they add USB ports to monitors, bad design flaw... They are very noisy, especially 3.0.
Do you have anything plugged to monitor (to audio jack, USB ports)? Always plug these to the computer.
Have you tried a different old monitor?

Re: Can "input lag/desync" eletrical issue come back in a new house?

Posted: 19 Oct 2022, 11:11
by Cyanide_
cybepine wrote:
19 Oct 2022, 02:01
Ok, I just checked your monitor.
Why they add USB ports to monitors, bad design flaw... They are very noisy, especially 3.0.
Do you have anything plugged to monitor (to audio jack, USB ports)? Always plug these to the computer.
Have you tried a different old monitor?
No, just DP cable into monitor nothing else. Headphones into pcie audio card. USB just to mobo lol.
I don't have my old 144 hz monitor (sold it), tried friend's 4k144hz screen but it's slower by itself, and it has "ghosting" or whatever it's called. My monitor w/ his PC worked fine though (we tested doom 2018 and r6 siege tho, not too many games).

Re: Can "input lag/desync" eletrical issue come back in a new house?

Posted: 06 Nov 2022, 12:15
by texre
You guys gotta understand that it’s not just emi that affects game play. It’s everything to your settings in windows and in bios. To having perfect electricity. You need a perfect setup to enjoy gaming at a high level. Im off grid. No tweaks to windows or bios is the best. I can compete with people again since summer time. Im only back on the forums again cause I want to find a on grid fix

Re: Can "input lag/desync" eletrical issue come back in a new house?

Posted: 07 Nov 2022, 09:52
by wadge
texre wrote:
06 Nov 2022, 12:15
You guys gotta understand that it’s not just emi that affects game play. It’s everything to your settings in windows and in bios. To having perfect electricity. You need a perfect setup to enjoy gaming at a high level. Im off grid. No tweaks to windows or bios is the best. I can compete with people again since summer time. Im only back on the forums again cause I want to find a on grid fix
Im planning on testing off grid too with pure sinewave converter and 200ah Lifepo4 battery to trully verify if my desync/input lag is related to electricity.
But even then if its working, i calculate the run time on the battery will only be 2 hours or so then ill be looking like you for a fix that works "on grid"

Re: Can "input lag/desync" eletrical issue come back in a new house?

Posted: 07 Nov 2022, 18:47
by F1zus
Iserverthefirelord wrote:
18 Oct 2022, 14:16
Oh, I see now. No, don't really remember that. I was just playing with friends one day, and next day got this shitty lag.
I've tried turning off everything & taking out all plugs, leaving only PC online. And shutting down everything in switch box, besides outlet for PC. Nada.
First, you need to understand whether the behavior of the mouse and computer changes day and night. Usually in the dead of night at 03.00 hours the mouse works much better than during the day.
Secondly, you need to connect a powerful mains device with a constant current consumption, such as an oven, hair dryer, iron, electric motor, to the outlet from the PC. The consumption of the device must be above 500 watts per hour. Turn on the maximum power on the device, wait 1-2 minutes, then start the computer and check the behavior of the mouse. Usually [electrical derived] input lag decreases immediately. The mouse becomes airy.
Thirdly, you need to conduct experiments with grounding. Grounding 50% solves the problem with bad electricity.

Re: Can "input lag/desync" eletrical issue come back in a new house?

Posted: 07 Nov 2022, 22:42
by delve
200ah will last you 2h? That's 1000w per hour.

Re: Can "input lag/desync" eletrical issue come back in a new house?

Posted: 08 Nov 2022, 10:43
by wadge
delve wrote:
07 Nov 2022, 22:42
200ah will last you 2h? That's 1000w per hour.
Ok youre right it will be more like 4h for my system but still not enough...

@Texre, it would be great if you can tell what are your issue exactly when on grid (like ennemies pre-firing or only keyboard/mouse input lag) and if you can make a video to show the difference on/off grid that would be perfect to help people determinate if they are facing the same issue