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There has been no recent testing with LDAT confirming anything people are saying here, unless someone wants to point to something new for the 7000 series and X3D, it hasn't been tested. This also goes for the 5800X3D.

My question is, are the x3d chips more responsive than regular ryzen cpus? I constantly hear how the x3d are smoother/more fluid even at the same frame rates, etc

woodyfly wrote: ↑

08 Jul 2023, 23:12

My question is, are the x3d chips more responsive than regular ryzen cpus? I constantly hear how the x3d are smoother/more fluid even at the same frame rates, etc

you get more fps then usual ryzen, that decrease latency, but some people say it have worse responce.

woodyfly wrote: ↑

08 Jul 2023, 23:12

My question is, are the x3d chips more responsive than regular ryzen cpus? I constantly hear how the x3d are smoother/more fluid even at the same frame rates, etc

I owned both and as long as you tweak the bios they seem to be very close together, only AMD delivers smoother FPS. I only recommend X3D chips right now. It seems as though the W11 May update did something to mice, which I'm trying to iron out, there is a thread on it here. My mousetester oscillates between 950-1050 on refresh. I may roll back, but currently trying different USB cards.

I don't have a latency analyzer so I couldn't ever test input delay, there are numbers for that online, but I don't think they tell the whole story as it's purely photon to click delay. Still a work in progress.

You're only going to be able to get so much confirmation from user testing here as almost all of us are talking from subjective experience and what little benchmarks are out there.

I can compare directly AMD and Intel build as i have them both (Intel 11800H + 3060 and Ryzen 7600 desktop + 3060Ti) and since may update which did smoothen the mouse movement somehow a bit, i dont feel any bigger difference, however on desktop the game runs a bit better now due to "natural" decrease of fps with every csgo patch... Waiting for cs2, as csgo suffers from huge inconsistency, the game runs slightly different almost every time (mouse feeling is heavier or less heavier randomly day to day, hour to hour, the rate how much the opponents are prefiring/teleporting/moving innatural speed also differs during daytime/runs), but its not intel vs amd issue, this happens on both.

Tuhin Lavania wrote: ↑

07 Jan 2023, 13:04

latencymon.png

This is on Intel.
This is the lowest i can go. I cant find any tweaks that will help the latency to go lower.
On AMD i was on 0.52-0.53 avg.

First 3 seconds on AMD.

windows is just better optimized for intel.. buying amd cpu will result in inconsistant preformance i personly have ryzen 7 5800x and iam getting actuall 1s or more frezes in apex legends dpc is over the roof with spreded out affinitys kernel tweaks disabled idle timecheck interval at 5k ... i could go on and on and general interupt to process latency and dpc latencys are spiking over 1k i dont understand how is nobody talking about it and how is it still not fixed but until then from my experience i suggest dont even think about amd platform. xPerf also hates ryzen if thats important info to anyone. Iam sorry for my eng its not thebest but i hope its good enough to understand issue.

Bump we still need confirmation whether intel is still better than "X3D" ryzen CPUs.

woodyfly wrote: ↑

08 Jul 2023, 23:12

My question is, are the x3d chips more responsive than regular ryzen cpus? I constantly hear how the x3d are smoother/more fluid even at the same frame rates, etc

no. I went from i5 3330 to a 5700x3d and oddly enough my i5 3330 seemed more responsive than the 5700x3d. I couldn't stand it and had to buy a 12600k to see if it was really a difference in platforms or the old processors were more responsive due to having less RAM latency, less bios settings, etc... and no, the 12600k is much better in terms of latency and mouse sensation. the 5700x3d was less responsive and the mouse seemed a bit floaty to me, now my performance has improved 100% after having an intel ddr5 kit.

vh18 wrote: ↑

18 May 2024, 14:11

woodyfly wrote: ↑

08 Jul 2023, 23:12

My question is, are the x3d chips more responsive than regular ryzen cpus? I constantly hear how the x3d are smoother/more fluid even at the same frame rates, etc

no. I went from i5 3330 to a 5700x3d and oddly enough my i5 3330 seemed more responsive than the 5700x3d. I couldn't stand it and had to buy a 12600k to see if it was really a difference in platforms or the old processors were more responsive due to having less RAM latency, less bios settings, etc... and no, the 12600k is much better in terms of latency and mouse sensation. the 5700x3d was less responsive and the mouse seemed a bit floaty to me, now my performance has improved 100% after having an intel ddr5 kit.

Intel is a lot easier to fix lag on...

...But there are some unorthodox $20 solutions for AMD lags:
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