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samepatrickkast wrote: ↑28 Jul 2023, 01:16and my old pc i5 6600k which I sold.
on this pc I didn't have any input lag. I don't know what changed in cpu design from 2015.
But ever since I bought the R7 1700 I have had input delay.
I still using CPU from 2013 with AM3+ platform and still have the lag.patrickkast wrote: ↑28 Jul 2023, 01:16my cpus are:
i5 13600k
R7 1700
R9 3900x
R9 5900x
and my old pc i5 6600k which I sold.
on this pc I didn't have any input lag. I don't know what changed in cpu design from 2015.
But ever since I bought the R7 1700 I have had input delay.
Don't bother your brain too much with that thread, it might help but it depends on your conditions and the way you use, I'm saying this because I found you a poor guy if I'm not wrong (sorry for using this word, but I had to because I had to extract what's in my mind).pcenthusiast92 wrote: ↑31 Jul 2023, 10:36PC specs:
Motherboard: Asrock b350 fatality k4 gaming bios: 3.0
CPU: Ryzen 5 1600 (no af version)
RAM: patriot ddr4 2x4 3200 (running at 2666)
GPU: Nvidia gtx 1060 EVGA dual fan
PSU: RM650x GOLD Corsair
Monitor: HP 60hz
Thing is playing games on this machine feels like 30fps, even running games over 100fps (i know my monitor is 60hz) in the past i used to run crt 100hz and lcd 77hz, same situation, I already test multiples motherboards.
But yeah for me this problem started in 2010.
For example I noticed playing games like counter strike 1.6 that there days where I can sense the smoke quality being like super smooth, I can sense the foot steps properly, the bullets when land perfectly, is like I'm very synced,attached, and yes spraying, shooting is super nice.
but anyway I hope a day to have the tools to measure emi/rfi, and do proper tweaks like did this user here:
viewtopic.php?f=24&t=11171&start=110
Oh don't worry by calling me poor guy is okay you have good intentions, what I have noticed on games like counter strike, if I'm playing over 60 fps I can sense like visual lag, so once I drop the frames to 62 or something games behave like not visual lag,and seems much better.loccomacco wrote: ↑02 Aug 2023, 13:55Don't bother your brain too much with that thread, it might help but it depends on your conditions and the way you use, I'm saying this because I found you a poor guy if I'm not wrong (sorry for using this word, but I had to because I had to extract what's in my mind).pcenthusiast92 wrote: ↑31 Jul 2023, 10:36PC specs:
Motherboard: Asrock b350 fatality k4 gaming bios: 3.0
CPU: Ryzen 5 1600 (no af version)
RAM: patriot ddr4 2x4 3200 (running at 2666)
GPU: Nvidia gtx 1060 EVGA dual fan
PSU: RM650x GOLD Corsair
Monitor: HP 60hz
Thing is playing games on this machine feels like 30fps, even running games over 100fps (i know my monitor is 60hz) in the past i used to run crt 100hz and lcd 77hz, same situation, I already test multiples motherboards.
But yeah for me this problem started in 2010.
For example I noticed playing games like counter strike 1.6 that there days where I can sense the smoke quality being like super smooth, I can sense the foot steps properly, the bullets when land perfectly, is like I'm very synced,attached, and yes spraying, shooting is super nice.
but anyway I hope a day to have the tools to measure emi/rfi, and do proper tweaks like did this user here:
viewtopic.php?f=24&t=11171&start=110
There are some people who haven't had any success with those filters but at the same time some had, so it simply means this one is a unique solution to this problem too, and it may not work for you, it's a bet, now do you wanna bet on that? I bet no.
Again in my opinion, if we have near to completely same symptoms, then we should have same solution, a solution that works for everyone without any exception or close to 1% exception (and this 1% should do some other simple things like changing their living area to have success by that solution)
you can ping your gaming server with udp and tcp packets and it responds with icmp, i think nperf it is called a tool that can do that.pcenthusiast92 wrote: ↑02 Aug 2023, 19:47Oh don't worry by calling me poor guy is okay you have good intentions, what I have noticed on games like counter strike, if I'm playing over 60 fps I can sense like visual lag, so once I drop the frames to 62 or something games behave like not visual lag,and seems much better.loccomacco wrote: ↑02 Aug 2023, 13:55Don't bother your brain too much with that thread, it might help but it depends on your conditions and the way you use, I'm saying this because I found you a poor guy if I'm not wrong (sorry for using this word, but I had to because I had to extract what's in my mind).pcenthusiast92 wrote: ↑31 Jul 2023, 10:36PC specs:
Motherboard: Asrock b350 fatality k4 gaming bios: 3.0
CPU: Ryzen 5 1600 (no af version)
RAM: patriot ddr4 2x4 3200 (running at 2666)
GPU: Nvidia gtx 1060 EVGA dual fan
PSU: RM650x GOLD Corsair
Monitor: HP 60hz
Thing is playing games on this machine feels like 30fps, even running games over 100fps (i know my monitor is 60hz) in the past i used to run crt 100hz and lcd 77hz, same situation, I already test multiples motherboards.
But yeah for me this problem started in 2010.
For example I noticed playing games like counter strike 1.6 that there days where I can sense the smoke quality being like super smooth, I can sense the foot steps properly, the bullets when land perfectly, is like I'm very synced,attached, and yes spraying, shooting is super nice.
but anyway I hope a day to have the tools to measure emi/rfi, and do proper tweaks like did this user here:
viewtopic.php?f=24&t=11171&start=110
There are some people who haven't had any success with those filters but at the same time some had, so it simply means this one is a unique solution to this problem too, and it may not work for you, it's a bet, now do you wanna bet on that? I bet no.
Again in my opinion, if we have near to completely same symptoms, then we should have same solution, a solution that works for everyone without any exception or close to 1% exception (and this 1% should do some other simple things like changing their living area to have success by that solution)
I also noticed that I don't have loss or choke, nor bufferbloat, but when I die(Edited the comment I also have a good jitter, my ping reminds stay like 39/40 not moving that much) , I see my model falling to the floor super laggy, like over-accelerated or something like that, at this point I remember I read on these blurbusters threads that someone talked about a game that wasn't delivery properly the UDP packets in Brazil or so? then the game developers manage to fix the problem.
So at this point do you think I have UDP trasmission problems? like not matter if I have fiber optical (FTTH) but Is like when I die, I feel like laggy, weird, also I feel heavy when shooting or spotting enemies, or sometimes I can have like no delay moving mouse perfectly, but then I feel heavy like having 300fps but at the same time having 60fps, and I cannot control properly the weapon, the reactions are slow... but sometimes I feel like a god, I can easily track enemies, shoot super easy, see better the smokes, hear better...
but listen I also in offline games I can sense the visual lag, so yeah at this point i'm very curious about this thing of UDP delay packets or something like that.
What you said here doesn't necessarily mean you have inputlag related to EMI, but you can simply pass through it by using a test case: If you have noticably less amount of inputlag on specific times of the day, while you haven't changed your fps, it simply means you have emi related inputlag.pcenthusiast92 wrote: ↑31 Jul 2023, 10:36Oh don't worry by calling me poor guy is okay you have good intentions, what I have noticed on games like counter strike, if I'm playing over 60 fps I can sense like visual lag, so once I drop the frames to 62 or something games behave like not visual lag,and seems much better.
About this paragraph, again it doesn't necessarily mean you have inputlag related to EMI, but you can also pass through it by using the same test case.pcenthusiast92 wrote: ↑31 Jul 2023, 10:36I also noticed that I don't have loss or choke, nor bufferbloat, but when I die(Edited the comment I also have a good jitter, my ping reminds stay like 39/40 not moving that much) , I see my model falling to the floor super laggy, like over-accelerated or something like that, at this point I remember I read on these blurbusters threads that someone talked about a game that wasn't delivery properly the UDP packets in Brazil or so? then the game developers manage to fix the problem.
Now it IS necessarily mean that you have inputlag related to EMIpcenthusiast92 wrote: ↑31 Jul 2023, 10:36So at this point do you think I have UDP trasmission problems? like not matter if I have fiber optical (FTTH) but Is like when I die, I feel like laggy, weird, also I feel heavy when shooting or spotting enemies, or sometimes I can have like no delay moving mouse perfectly, but then I feel heavy like having 300fps but at the same time having 60fps, and I cannot control properly the weapon, the reactions are slow... but sometimes I feel like a god, I can easily track enemies, shoot super easy, see better the smokes, hear better...
but listen I also in offline games I can sense the visual lag, so yeah at this point i'm very curious about this thing of UDP delay packets or something like that.
what did I just say?
I laugh a bit with the "but trust me if you trust me ) lol haha.loccomacco wrote: ↑03 Aug 2023, 22:42What you said here doesn't necessarily mean you have inputlag related to EMI, but you can simply pass through it by using a test case: If you have noticably less amount of inputlag on specific times of the day, while you haven't changed your fps, it simply means you have emi related inputlag.pcenthusiast92 wrote: ↑31 Jul 2023, 10:36Oh don't worry by calling me poor guy is okay you have good intentions, what I have noticed on games like counter strike, if I'm playing over 60 fps I can sense like visual lag, so once I drop the frames to 62 or something games behave like not visual lag,and seems much better.
About this paragraph, again it doesn't necessarily mean you have inputlag related to EMI, but you can also pass through it by using the same test case.pcenthusiast92 wrote: ↑31 Jul 2023, 10:36I also noticed that I don't have loss or choke, nor bufferbloat, but when I die(Edited the comment I also have a good jitter, my ping reminds stay like 39/40 not moving that much) , I see my model falling to the floor super laggy, like over-accelerated or something like that, at this point I remember I read on these blurbusters threads that someone talked about a game that wasn't delivery properly the UDP packets in Brazil or so? then the game developers manage to fix the problem.
Another test case is, if you have same problem on other games too, then you have EMI related inputlag.
Another test case is, if you have same problems on offline games too even when you unplugged your internet cables, then you have EMI related inputlag.
Now it IS necessarily mean that you have inputlag related to EMIpcenthusiast92 wrote: ↑31 Jul 2023, 10:36So at this point do you think I have UDP trasmission problems? like not matter if I have fiber optical (FTTH) but Is like when I die, I feel like laggy, weird, also I feel heavy when shooting or spotting enemies, or sometimes I can have like no delay moving mouse perfectly, but then I feel heavy like having 300fps but at the same time having 60fps, and I cannot control properly the weapon, the reactions are slow... but sometimes I feel like a god, I can easily track enemies, shoot super easy, see better the smokes, hear better...
but listen I also in offline games I can sense the visual lag, so yeah at this point i'm very curious about this thing of UDP delay packets or something like that.
See? I even haven't read all of your comment, but now that I reached to the end, sorry for telling this, but you have absolutely EMI related inputlag.
You have specific times without inputlag, you tried different types of internet, you have same problems in offline games, then congrats at this point, you passed all test cases and now you know what's your problem.
Yeah, all of your symptoms are literally the same as others, we all have them too, some more noticeable, some less, when this evil problem appears, we all feel like we have lower fps than what we set, or lower sound quality than what we set (you may not have low sound quality, but you feel you don't have some sounds like footsteps at some moments and so on), or lower mouse DPI than what we set or just an icy uncontrollable mouse, or slower movement of our character or car than it should be in game, sometimes uncontrollable character or car in games that movement is important, like CSGO, Apex legends, rocket league, all driving simulators, the list is too long to mention.
Yeah we almost have same symptoms, so we should all suffer from same problem, therefore we should all have same solution.
But at the end, consider that whatever I said is my opinion, and some people may not be agree with that, but trust me if you trust me, waitwhat did I just say?
Anyways, in my opinion you have EMI related inputlag.
I know this is off topic but this post made me think what my first PC had that my second,third,fourth and fifth didn't have. I thought to myself I remember having Motherboard Insulating washers they came with my first case which was a zalman z1. After that I bought some on amazon. Now that I have bougt them and tested them I can confirm my motherboard doesn't have input lag anymore and My gpu is still affected, When I play on Displayport, I still have lag on my ASUS 1070 STRIX OC, and RTX GV-N3080GAMING OC-12GD, for some reason on my ASUS RTX 2070 STRIX this didn't happen. My conclusion is that my problem is related to how the ground was done in my house. Since the GPU still grounded to the case it is still affected. Now with the motherboard insulation washers I have ungrounded my motherboard. the attachment below shows what I bought from amazon. My input lag is fixed no longer my keyboard and mouse input feel delayed like shit. hopefully this helps anyone with a similar issue.InputLagger wrote: ↑29 Jul 2023, 11:44I still using CPU from 2013 with AM3+ platform and still have the lag.patrickkast wrote: ↑28 Jul 2023, 01:16my cpus are:
i5 13600k
R7 1700
R9 3900x
R9 5900x
and my old pc i5 6600k which I sold.
on this pc I didn't have any input lag. I don't know what changed in cpu design from 2015.
But ever since I bought the R7 1700 I have had input delay.
None of CPU changed much since, but software, running on PCs (upgraded many times per year with new versions)
This is another useless thread for the steam release. Many millions of people using these "cpus model" and still perfoms well