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Re: Electrical input lag started when my dad changed from 15 to 30 amps
Posted: 24 Aug 2024, 01:55
by widow13
ziadbrahmi wrote: ↑24 Aug 2024, 00:36
widow13 wrote: ↑23 Aug 2024, 18:02
ziadbrahmi wrote: ↑23 Aug 2024, 17:53
widow13 wrote: ↑23 Aug 2024, 15:07
Yeah it could definitely be because of absent grounding.
well yes but ppl told me grounding aint fixing that input lag , and that’s it more of an RFI thing
Well noone knows what it really is, if they knew they would have fixed it.
Even people that do have grounding might not have "good enough" grounding.
yes but only a few of us experience that "temporary fix " when you dont touch peripherals or when your alt tab so idk if we rlly have the same source of the problem
Even if you had the same "source" of problem, the solution would 100% vary.
I've seen PC's have similar issues from using higher than 1k hz on their mice and the funny part is that they have high end PC's.
Re: Electrical input lag started when my dad changed from 15 to 30 amps
Posted: 24 Aug 2024, 11:47
by ziadbrahmi
widow13 wrote: ↑24 Aug 2024, 01:55
ziadbrahmi wrote: ↑24 Aug 2024, 00:36
widow13 wrote: ↑23 Aug 2024, 18:02
ziadbrahmi wrote: ↑23 Aug 2024, 17:53
well yes but ppl told me grounding aint fixing that input lag , and that’s it more of an RFI thing
Well noone knows what it really is, if they knew they would have fixed it.
Even people that do have grounding might not have "good enough" grounding.
yes but only a few of us experience that "temporary fix " when you dont touch peripherals or when your alt tab so idk if we rlly have the same source of the problem
Even if you had the same "source" of problem, the solution would 100% vary.
I've seen PC's have similar issues from using higher than 1k hz on their mice and the funny part is that they have high end PC's.
first of all thank u for ur answers ! and yes you’re right , if alt tabbing is fixing it for a bit the solution could be software related who knows even tho i had it on previous hardwares .
Re: Electrical input lag started when my dad changed from 15 to 30 amps
Posted: 24 Aug 2024, 12:00
by widow13
ziadbrahmi wrote: ↑24 Aug 2024, 11:47
widow13 wrote: ↑24 Aug 2024, 01:55
ziadbrahmi wrote: ↑24 Aug 2024, 00:36
widow13 wrote: ↑23 Aug 2024, 18:02
Well noone knows what it really is, if they knew they would have fixed it.
Even people that do have grounding might not have "good enough" grounding.
yes but only a few of us experience that "temporary fix " when you dont touch peripherals or when your alt tab so idk if we rlly have the same source of the problem
Even if you had the same "source" of problem, the solution would 100% vary.
I've seen PC's have similar issues from using higher than 1k hz on their mice and the funny part is that they have high end PC's.
first of all thank u for ur answers ! and yes you’re right , if alt tabbing is fixing it for a bit the solution could be software related who knows even tho i had it on previous hardwares .
This issue affected all my devices, even my phone lagged(and still does,rarely it works fine).
PC is fine after using expensive UPS (doesn't work for everyone).
I'll call my electricity company by next week either way because the others in my house still have issues.
We took my brother's PC when we left for summer holidays and we had 0 issues using it.
After we brought it back home, a lot of issues appeared. Laggy gameplay/shutdowns/monitor going black randomly, issues than never existed on the other house.
Probably voltage issues that we have, electricity company might be able to fix it. I've done all I could on my side to make it better.
If the issue/voltage drop is too high, even my UPS struggles to keep up sometimes.
Re: Electrical input lag started when my dad changed from 15 to 30 amps
Posted: 24 Aug 2024, 12:10
by ziadbrahmi
widow13 wrote: ↑24 Aug 2024, 12:00
ziadbrahmi wrote: ↑24 Aug 2024, 11:47
widow13 wrote: ↑24 Aug 2024, 01:55
ziadbrahmi wrote: ↑24 Aug 2024, 00:36
yes but only a few of us experience that "temporary fix " when you dont touch peripherals or when your alt tab so idk if we rlly have the same source of the problem
Even if you had the same "source" of problem, the solution would 100% vary.
I've seen PC's have similar issues from using higher than 1k hz on their mice and the funny part is that they have high end PC's.
first of all thank u for ur answers ! and yes you’re right , if alt tabbing is fixing it for a bit the solution could be software related who knows even tho i had it on previous hardwares .
This issue affected all my devices, even my phone lagged(and still does,rarely it works fine).
PC is fine after using expensive UPS (doesn't work for everyone).
I'll call my electricity company by next week either way because the others in my house still have issues.
We took my brother's PC when we left for summer holidays and we had 0 issues using it.
After we brought it back home, a lot of issues appeared. Laggy gameplay/shutdowns/monitor going black randomly, issues than never existed on the other house.
Probably voltage issues that we have, electricity company might be able to fix it. I've done all I could on my side to make it better.
If the issue/voltage drop is too high, even my UPS struggles to keep up sometimes.
well bro if it was voltage , why would it affect your phone unless it only lags when plugged in , innmy opininon it could be some kind of interference in the air causing that , this is one of the hardest issuzs a gamer / daily electronics user can have
Re: Electrical input lag started when my dad changed from 15 to 30 amps
Posted: 24 Aug 2024, 12:11
by widow13
ziadbrahmi wrote: ↑24 Aug 2024, 12:10
widow13 wrote: ↑24 Aug 2024, 12:00
ziadbrahmi wrote: ↑24 Aug 2024, 11:47
widow13 wrote: ↑24 Aug 2024, 01:55
Even if you had the same "source" of problem, the solution would 100% vary.
I've seen PC's have similar issues from using higher than 1k hz on their mice and the funny part is that they have high end PC's.
first of all thank u for ur answers ! and yes you’re right , if alt tabbing is fixing it for a bit the solution could be software related who knows even tho i had it on previous hardwares .
This issue affected all my devices, even my phone lagged(and still does,rarely it works fine).
PC is fine after using expensive UPS (doesn't work for everyone).
I'll call my electricity company by next week either way because the others in my house still have issues.
We took my brother's PC when we left for summer holidays and we had 0 issues using it.
After we brought it back home, a lot of issues appeared. Laggy gameplay/shutdowns/monitor going black randomly, issues than never existed on the other house.
Probably voltage issues that we have, electricity company might be able to fix it. I've done all I could on my side to make it better.
If the issue/voltage drop is too high, even my UPS struggles to keep up sometimes.
well bro if it was voltage , why would it affect your phone unless it only lags when plugged in , innmy opininon it could be some kind of interference in the air causing that , this is one of the hardest issuzs a gamer / daily electronics user can have
Not an electrician so can't really say. If it was bad electricity, it would affect the phone because it gets charged through the same plugs.
But I can't really say for sure.
You could be right aswell, interference could be playing a big role here.
But it is hard to locate and fix.
Re: Electrical input lag started when my dad changed from 15 to 30 amps
Posted: 25 Aug 2024, 01:36
by F1zus
widow13 wrote: ↑24 Aug 2024, 12:00
PC is fine after using expensive UPS (doesn't work for everyone).
I'll call my electricity company by next week either way because the others in my house still have issues.
We took my brother's PC when we left for summer holidays and we had 0 issues using it.
After we brought it back home, a lot of issues appeared. Laggy gameplay/shutdowns/monitor going black randomly, issues than never existed on the other house.
Probably voltage issues that we have, electricity company might be able to fix it. I've done all I could on my side to make it better.
If the issue/voltage drop is too high, even my UPS struggles to keep up sometimes.
Hello. What UPS model are you using?
I also have problems with the mouse, game, etc.
My mouse feels slower during the day than at night.
So is the keyboard.
Re: Electrical input lag started when my dad changed from 15 to 30 amps
Posted: 25 Aug 2024, 05:27
by widow13
F1zus wrote: ↑25 Aug 2024, 01:36
widow13 wrote: ↑24 Aug 2024, 12:00
PC is fine after using expensive UPS (doesn't work for everyone).
I'll call my electricity company by next week either way because the others in my house still have issues.
We took my brother's PC when we left for summer holidays and we had 0 issues using it.
After we brought it back home, a lot of issues appeared. Laggy gameplay/shutdowns/monitor going black randomly, issues than never existed on the other house.
Probably voltage issues that we have, electricity company might be able to fix it. I've done all I could on my side to make it better.
If the issue/voltage drop is too high, even my UPS struggles to keep up sometimes.
Hello. What UPS model are you using?
I also have problems with the mouse, game, etc.
My mouse feels slower during the day than at night.
So is the keyboard.
I have the I have a Powerwalker VFI 1000 TG UPS On-Line 1000VA 900W.
Might not work for you tho, did way too many things and I believe UPS was just the one that helped the most.
I had another guy try it and it didn't work for him.
Few PCs I tried had issues with ram, changing some timings or turning MCR on would make the game feel like you are playing on 300ms untill you changed it back.
Couldn't replicate the ram issue 100% of the time tho.
Re: Electrical input lag started when my dad changed from 15 to 30 amps
Posted: 25 Aug 2024, 06:19
by F1zus
widow13 wrote: ↑25 Aug 2024, 05:27
I have the I have a Powerwalker VFI 1000 TG UPS On-Line 1000VA 900W.
Might not work for you tho, did way too many things and I believe UPS was just the one that helped the most.
I had another guy try it and it didn't work for him.
Few PCs I tried had issues with ram, changing some timings or turning MCR on would make the game feel like you are playing on 300ms untill you changed it back.
Couldn't replicate the ram issue 100% of the time tho.
I have no problems with PC components, I know that incorrect Windows or BIOS settings can cause problems.
But my system is configured correctly, all power saving functions are disabled. Timings and RAM frequency are configured according to the formulas for Samsung b-die chips.
Unnecessary services in Windows are disabled.
My problem is that during the day I feel the computer is less responsive than at night. This is due to dirty electricity, I used some devices and examined the power quality indicators in the outlet. It was found that at night the level of electrical noise decreases by 2 times.
I know that many UPS, computer power supplies, monitors pass dirty electricity (part of dirty electricity).
Therefore, my computer constantly has different responsiveness.
The most vulnerable components are the monitor power supply and the router power supply. They do not have good protection against electrical interference and pass all the electrical noise into the computer.
This was confirmed by various devices (oscilloscope, spectrum analyzer, etc.).
Re: Electrical input lag started when my dad changed from 15 to 30 amps
Posted: 25 Aug 2024, 06:22
by widow13
F1zus wrote: ↑25 Aug 2024, 06:19
widow13 wrote: ↑25 Aug 2024, 05:27
I have the I have a Powerwalker VFI 1000 TG UPS On-Line 1000VA 900W.
Might not work for you tho, did way too many things and I believe UPS was just the one that helped the most.
I had another guy try it and it didn't work for him.
Few PCs I tried had issues with ram, changing some timings or turning MCR on would make the game feel like you are playing on 300ms untill you changed it back.
Couldn't replicate the ram issue 100% of the time tho.
I have no problems with PC components, I know that incorrect Windows or BIOS settings can cause problems.
But my system is configured correctly, all power saving functions are disabled. Timings and RAM frequency are configured according to the formulas for Samsung b-die chips.
Unnecessary services in Windows are disabled.
My problem is that during the day I feel the computer is less responsive than at night. This is due to dirty electricity, I used some devices and examined the power quality indicators in the outlet. It was found that at night the level of electrical noise decreases by 2 times.
I know that many UPS, computer power supplies, monitors pass dirty electricity (part of dirty electricity).
Therefore, my computer constantly has different responsiveness.
The most vulnerable components are the monitor power supply and the router power supply. They do not have good protection against electrical interference and pass all the electrical noise into the computer.
This was confirmed by various devices (oscilloscope, spectrum analyzer, etc.).
Yeah, pretty much the same issues I had and people in my house still have them because they do not have a UPS installed.
Did you try contacting your power company about it ?
I'll contact them by monday and try to fix it for the whole house.
Re: Electrical input lag started when my dad changed from 15 to 30 amps
Posted: 25 Aug 2024, 07:08
by F1zus
widow13 wrote: ↑25 Aug 2024, 06:22
Yeah, pretty much the same issues I had and people in my house still have them because they do not have a UPS installed.
Did you try contacting your power company about it ?
I'll contact them by monday and try to fix it for the whole house.
My energy company is a monopoly and they answer - either you use our electricity, or we turn it off and you sit with candles and kerosene lamps, like in the 18th century )))
According to the laws of my country, up to 8% harmonic distortion in the electrical network is the norm.
Harmonic distortion begins at 100 Hz and ends at 5000 Hz (harmonic of the 50th order), everything above is not taken into account.
Naturally, according to such parameters, my outlet has about 2% distortion.
But in fact, there are distortions above 5000 Hz.
I do not know what frequency distortion has a negative effect on the computer. I do not know.
But in any case, pure electricity (without distortion), a sine wave of only 50 Hz ensures stable operation of the computer.
That is why solar panels help people with bad electricity