I wish you then good luck with that...
Nothing more i can help or say and contribute in this.
No FPS gaming possible
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If it's not too much trouble, show the results https://www.waveform.com/tools/bufferbloat . But first limit your internet speed to 1/4 or 1/8 of the current one. I'm interested in the difference in ping for download and upload.LaggyTyp wrote: Internet:
- Docsis Cable
- 1000 Mbps download / 50 Mbps upload
- Ping: 12-15ms (in-game)
- FritzBox 6690 (with LAN cable)
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The test you linked to is demonstrably poor and inconsistent. Speedtest.net delivers consistent results.
But a few facts:
- The game requires approximately 150-350 kbps (download) and 30-100 kbps (upload)
- My connection isn't even close to reaching its limits (maximum 10%)
- No gamer is experiencing bufferbloat (or they're doing something really wrong)
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But a few facts:
- The game requires approximately 150-350 kbps (download) and 30-100 kbps (upload)
- My connection isn't even close to reaching its limits (maximum 10%)
- No gamer is experiencing bufferbloat (or they're doing something really wrong)
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That's why I asked for a speed limit. I don't care about buffer overflows.
I'm interested in the difference in ping for download and upload.
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Re: No FPS gaming possible
it is same, lol
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Today works fine (Gaming).
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Today works fine (Gaming).
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ChristophSmaul1337
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Re: No FPS gaming possible
This has happened to me before as well. Here's an easy test you can do to figure out if it's internet related or not.
You say it happens in Battlefield, so that's where you should be looking first. Does this happen only in Battlefield 2042? Do you observe the same problems in other games, too? Try to play CS, or basically any other shooter that's not from the Battlefield franchise.
What you're describing can of course be caused by all sorts of problems, but as a former competitive Battlefield player, take my word for this: Battlefield games have, by FAR, the worst netcode in all of modern gaming. Especially BF2042 is such a low quality game that this might be what is causing this. It definitely doesn't sound far off from what I'm seeing when I play that horrible game.
If this happens in other games too, then you can go on and do another test. You state that one part of the problem is the high number of shots you need to kill opponents. In Battlefield, load a match with bots (Solo/Coop). Pull the internet cable and shoot at the bots. Observe if the hit detection is still notably bad.
If it works fine here, it's likely that your internet connection is the culprit. If this also shows the same poor results, look a bit further than just BF. Boot up CS2 and try the same thing there. Shoot at bots without the internet connected. If that also feels bad, you can basically rule out internet and game quality as a cause. If it's fine in CS, then it's likely just a BF issue.
I would not be changing settings in your OS for now. Think about it from this angle: There's a lot of players, the vast majority of them, who are playing the game just fine on bog-standard installations, maybe even on pre-built computers, without having touched anything related to settings at all. Your OS/Computer must work out of the box, without you touching any setting at all. Adjusting settings is never a requirement for smooth gameplay.
Good luck!
You say it happens in Battlefield, so that's where you should be looking first. Does this happen only in Battlefield 2042? Do you observe the same problems in other games, too? Try to play CS, or basically any other shooter that's not from the Battlefield franchise.
What you're describing can of course be caused by all sorts of problems, but as a former competitive Battlefield player, take my word for this: Battlefield games have, by FAR, the worst netcode in all of modern gaming. Especially BF2042 is such a low quality game that this might be what is causing this. It definitely doesn't sound far off from what I'm seeing when I play that horrible game.
If this happens in other games too, then you can go on and do another test. You state that one part of the problem is the high number of shots you need to kill opponents. In Battlefield, load a match with bots (Solo/Coop). Pull the internet cable and shoot at the bots. Observe if the hit detection is still notably bad.
If it works fine here, it's likely that your internet connection is the culprit. If this also shows the same poor results, look a bit further than just BF. Boot up CS2 and try the same thing there. Shoot at bots without the internet connected. If that also feels bad, you can basically rule out internet and game quality as a cause. If it's fine in CS, then it's likely just a BF issue.
I would not be changing settings in your OS for now. Think about it from this angle: There's a lot of players, the vast majority of them, who are playing the game just fine on bog-standard installations, maybe even on pre-built computers, without having touched anything related to settings at all. Your OS/Computer must work out of the box, without you touching any setting at all. Adjusting settings is never a requirement for smooth gameplay.
Good luck!
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The problem only occurs online, but that's not proof that it's the ISP's fault. It could also be due to Windows settings, router (+settings), hardware, etc.
I also play Escape from Tarkov, The Finals, and Battlefield. I have the same problems everywhere. Mostly in EFT (which is why I don't play anymore).
- My shots are difficult or impossible to land
- I die extremely quickly (like 1 frame)
- In BF2042, I die within 6 delta ticks (BF2042 servers run at a tick rate of 45 Hz. This means I die within 133.33 ms. That's 0.133 seconds!)
Friends of mine who also play BF2042 and stream on Twitch/Kick have a completely different gaming experience. I watch them, and what do I see? The enemies run past them. He can almost always run for cover, jump around like crazy, etc. I can't do any of that. Every enemy has a strong, full focus on me, and it feels like they're cheating (which they aren't).
I also play Escape from Tarkov, The Finals, and Battlefield. I have the same problems everywhere. Mostly in EFT (which is why I don't play anymore).
- My shots are difficult or impossible to land
- I die extremely quickly (like 1 frame)
- In BF2042, I die within 6 delta ticks (BF2042 servers run at a tick rate of 45 Hz. This means I die within 133.33 ms. That's 0.133 seconds!)
Friends of mine who also play BF2042 and stream on Twitch/Kick have a completely different gaming experience. I watch them, and what do I see? The enemies run past them. He can almost always run for cover, jump around like crazy, etc. I can't do any of that. Every enemy has a strong, full focus on me, and it feels like they're cheating (which they aren't).
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ChristophSmaul1337
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Re: No FPS gaming possible
Good information so far. I think you can rule out problems with your hardware here, and you can also leave Windows settings alone. Given the fact you're proficient with your overclock, BIOS settings and so on, I'm pretty confident in saying that this is not a hardware problem. Windows settings, as hinted at before, are likely never a problem, unless you've already messed around too much and changed critical settings. But for now I'll assume you didn't.
The router you're using (Fritzbox 6690) is not on the infamous Puma6 chipset, so I'd rule out some weird software bug for now. Apart from that, you can't really change many settings on these FritzBox routers anyways, so I highly doubt there is something messed up with it. Also, same as with the Windows settings, these things are used by millions of people right out of the box, without changing any settings at all, and with no problems. However, if you want to really make absolutely sure, you're free to change the router at any time (thanks, Gesetz zur Auswahl und zum Anschluss von Telekommunikationsendgeräten!). Try another router if you have one laying around and see if it improves the situation. It likely won't.
Honestly, the only real possibility I see is with the ISP here. First, I would enable the game's diagnostic overlays while playing & record the screen while doing so. If there's something wrong with the connection, you'll be able to see it in the recording. Additionally, BF2042 has a "bullet registration" graph. I don't know what exactly it's called, but I have it on all the time. Dig around in the settings a bit, you'll find it.
Look at your recording afterwards and see if you can spot anomalies like the ping spiking at random times, packet loss or anything else that might be of interest.
The router you're using (Fritzbox 6690) is not on the infamous Puma6 chipset, so I'd rule out some weird software bug for now. Apart from that, you can't really change many settings on these FritzBox routers anyways, so I highly doubt there is something messed up with it. Also, same as with the Windows settings, these things are used by millions of people right out of the box, without changing any settings at all, and with no problems. However, if you want to really make absolutely sure, you're free to change the router at any time (thanks, Gesetz zur Auswahl und zum Anschluss von Telekommunikationsendgeräten!). Try another router if you have one laying around and see if it improves the situation. It likely won't.
Honestly, the only real possibility I see is with the ISP here. First, I would enable the game's diagnostic overlays while playing & record the screen while doing so. If there's something wrong with the connection, you'll be able to see it in the recording. Additionally, BF2042 has a "bullet registration" graph. I don't know what exactly it's called, but I have it on all the time. Dig around in the settings a bit, you'll find it.
Look at your recording afterwards and see if you can spot anomalies like the ping spiking at random times, packet loss or anything else that might be of interest.
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I've had all these things turned on for a long time. They don't show anything unusual. Quite the opposite. The values look perfect.
Ping is low. The ping rate is almost a straight line. I'm always within the set FPS limit. CPU, GPU, and RAM are cool (large water cooler). CPU load is low. The main thread isn't running at its limit either.
There's no indication that anything is wrong, and yet it's not.
I'm frustrated.
Ping is low. The ping rate is almost a straight line. I'm always within the set FPS limit. CPU, GPU, and RAM are cool (large water cooler). CPU load is low. The main thread isn't running at its limit either.
There's no indication that anything is wrong, and yet it's not.
I'm frustrated.