Poll- What is your prefered monitor size for FPS gaming?

[Notty_PT]

That´s exactly it! Great example, thanks for the image editing
Now you can see how when you have the monitor closer to you, your eyes have to deal with way less information, so is never exactly the same as using a bigger monitor further away!

You are a wonderful example of a man who upholds his faith. Almost a cleric. Unfortunately, most heretics believe in geometry and optics more. I have to confess that I am powerless.as powerless messages of other users.

I also made a personal research with Quake pro players mainly and most agreed that smaller screens provide better aim. The thing is that almost every pro player is sponsored and they use that the brands want them to use.

The fact is that this group of people sits in tension for 6-12 hours a day and already has vision problems.

I am sure that once smaller 240hz screens appear, players will start using them.

If only the monitor is complete with glasses for the average consumer with good eyesight. Which will give the opportunity to focus at a closer distance. A kind of collusion manufacturers of monitors and manufacturers of glasses.

You may be right! But this is a forum geared towards monitor/input lag/response time enthusiasts. You won´t believe how many years I spent on forums and websites being "attacked" when I was already claiming high refresh rates would benefit your gaming performance by a mile. A lot of people always said "it´s useless" "you won´t get any better by playing 85hz instead of 60hz" "120hz monitors are a gimmick" "200fps gaming makes no sense, use Vsync" etc etc etc.

Thankfully with time things change, people opinions change and here we are with 240hz models and already testing 480hz prototypes.

1000hz polling rate on the mouse was also "useless" for almost 2 decades and now we want 2000hz asap for the new monitors. People nowadays even try different mousepads, hand positioning etc etc etc. In the end it all matters, and if we stick to the idea of "why bother with that, that´s minimal impact, you crazy" we never evolve.

That applies for everything, from gaming to physics, maths, exploring the universe, etc. Galileu was almost killed for haiving the belief that Earth orbited the Sun and not the other way around. Because 99,9% told him he was wrong, while his experiments convinced himself that he was right

[MatrixQW]

But your table is still on your field of view, get what I mean? Is not exactly the same as only having the monitor on your fov. I understand you don´t focus on it, I don´t either, but it is there,

If you respect the minimum distance to each size, the result will be the same. You will also see stuff around a 23''.
If you are only seeing the monitor, then you are sticking the monitor in your face, wich does not have the correct distance.
Smaller screen you will see everything smaller like enemy model, items, etc. So a bigger screen will actually help because everything will be bigger and easier to spot and hit.
This is my perception, I also had a 22'' monitor.

[Notty_PT]

I guess you still didn´t get it, I wil try to post pics later today from my actual viewing distance and field of view when I´m on the chair playing games, to explain myself better

BTW on the new LG 24GL600F wich uses a 23,6 LG panel at 144hz (the smallest 144hz panel so far), LG even promotes it by saying:

"With a 23,6 inch screen, 24GL600F allows players to have a clear vision of the battlefield and the whole UI."

[LancerMiG]

Eh, I'm mostly running on screens smaller than 24 inches: I don't have that many space to dedicate to gaming since I started independent adult life (nah, who do I fool? The space's just taken by plastic model and airsoft stuff) and would feel somehow overwhelmed by a big screen.

[Chief Blur Buster]

27" viewing from 27" versus 24" viewing from 24" doesn't react the same way with everyone. Vision, focus issues, perception, etc. Technically it's the same photons at same angular resolution.

But there's another factor -- how you use the screen.

We had 15" CRTs and moved to 22"-24" LCDs. Bigger was better for a while but a screen can get too big because the corner enemies are too far away. Many professional esports player stare only at the crosshairs and 100% use only peripheral vision to "see" enemies away from crosshairs. If screen is too big, this doesn't work properly. Not moving eyes = saves time. Good professional players sometimes do this tactic, and for such players there is an ideal screen size, often 20", 22" or 23" -- and even 24" is a bit too big. But it can also be solved by pushing the screen slightly further back. 1080p is often preferred over 1440p because HUD elements and text get too small to read quickly in a superfocussed situation.

There's such a thing as "too big" if you're fine-tuning for reaction-time in esports -- the time spent moving eyes can slow you down. Some players nearly never move their eyes away from crosshairs, and relying on peripheral vision to see the whole screen simultaneously. In some cases, 27" is too big for esports sometimes, given the limited room at events to push a monitor further back.

[1000WATT]

That applies for everything, from gaming to physics, maths, exploring the universe, etc. Galileu was almost killed for haiving the belief that Earth orbited the Sun and not the other way around. Because 99,9% told him he was wrong, while his experiments convinced himself that he was right

I'm already a little lost where is the irony, and where is serious.
Galileo was a physicist and mathematician. Those people who opposed his discoveries. Peripatetics were the disciples and followers of Aristotle, they were philosophers.At that time, the Inquisition had great power.
Unfortunately for you, numbers are part of a mathematical concept. And they serve for convenience of calculations the accuracy of which is enough for us at the moment.
I will try even clearer. They are not found anywhere in nature, the universe, etc.

I'm not hard drugs specialist.
But if we take into account that the numbers are a concept invented - a kind of religion. So who will understand who is mistaken the church or scientists.

[Notty_PT]

That applies for everything, from gaming to physics, maths, exploring the universe, etc. Galileu was almost killed for haiving the belief that Earth orbited the Sun and not the other way around. Because 99,9% told him he was wrong, while his experiments convinced himself that he was right

I'm already a little lost where is the irony, and where is serious.
Galileo was a physicist and mathematician. Those people who opposed his discoveries. Peripatetics were the disciples and followers of Aristotle, they were philosophers.At that time, the Inquisition had great power.
Unfortunately for you, numbers are part of a mathematical concept. And they serve for convenience of calculations the accuracy of which is enough for us at the moment.
I will try even clearer. They are not found anywhere in nature, the universe, etc.

I'm not hard drugs specialist.
But if we take into account that the numbers are a concept invented - a kind of religion. So who will understand who is mistaken the church or scientists.

But I already used maths to show you that using a 27 inch further away from the eyes doesn´t deliver the same information for your eyes as having a 23 inch closer to the eyes, because when you have an object further, you are actually already changing the perception around your eyes. If you sit on a Cinema looking really far away at a 120 inch screen it isn´t the same as looking to a 23 inch at home from 40cm away right? Get my point? Even tho the information on the monitor might have the exact same scale, and yes maths do not fail here, on the cinema you will see chairs, people, etc and then the screen. Your eyes will be focused on the screen but they still get different info on the peripheral vision like Chief said. While at home on the 23 inch screen you are not seeing chairs or other people, you see only a tiny bit of table/keyboard.

IDK how I can explain myself better

Galileu was just an example of someone that didn´t stick to an universal accepted idea and tried to find more about it. Was just an analogy ofc. Just like we enthusiasts are for 2 decades now preaching everywhere that higher refresh rate delivers objectively better performance at games and we been trying loads of different monitors or polling rate mice or differant skates, or mousepads etc.

[1000WATT]

If you sit on a Cinema looking really far away at a 120 inch screen it isn´t the same as looking to a 23 inch at home from 40cm away right? Get my point? Even tho the information on the monitor might have the exact same scale, and yes maths do not fail here, on the cinema you will see chairs, people, etc and then the screen.
Your eyes will be focused on the screen but they still get different info on the peripheral vision like Chief said.

Chief said. But it can also be solved by pushing the screen slightly further back.

While at home on the 23 inch screen you are not seeing chairs or other people, you see only a tiny bit of table/keyboard.

I think if I am at home when I watch a movie I suddenly see (outside the monitor) chairs from the cinema and people. I'll ask my wife: Honey, do we have haloperidol in the aid kit?

https://youtu.be/AwpW8NBmOdU https://youtu.be/XISo9yjB9QQ?t=23

[Notty_PT]

If you sit on a Cinema looking really far away at a 120 inch screen it isn´t the same as looking to a 23 inch at home from 40cm away right? Get my point? Even tho the information on the monitor might have the exact same scale, and yes maths do not fail here, on the cinema you will see chairs, people, etc and then the screen.
Your eyes will be focused on the screen but they still get different info on the peripheral vision like Chief said.

Chief said. But it can also be solved by pushing the screen slightly further back.

While at home on the 23 inch screen you are not seeing chairs or other people, you see only a tiny bit of table/keyboard.

I think if I am at home when I watch a movie I suddenly see (outside the monitor) chairs from the cinema and people. I'll ask my wife: Honey, do we have haloperidol in the aid kit?

https://youtu.be/AwpW8NBmOdU https://youtu.be/XISo9yjB9QQ?t=23

Whatever mate, you will keep with your irony everyday on every thread and on this forum we don´t act like reddit, so let´s do it like this -> You have your opinion and I have mine, you use what you prefer and I use what I prefer wich gives me results. I think is fair to end it this way

[1000WATT]

I have no idea how people behave on reddit.
I wanted a good mood to everyone and joked a little. I also wanted your topic not to die and you independently analyzed all the posts and came to the conclusion and found a solution. Already on the first page of this topic there is an answer and if not to be deaf. To hear someone else's opinion, your problem is solved in a day. there is no need to wait for a monitor of a certain size. I think is fair to end it this way