New 1080p 240hz IPS monitors. LG 27gn750, MSI MAG251rx, Asus TUF vg279qm/vg259qm.

[ayukreizi]

I bought the VG259QM hoping I'd get a great image in addition to competitive response times.
From what I gather here, the 25" have even worse image than i was expecting (based on stats from the 27")
Does that mean I'd be better off getting a fast TN panel? Is there some inherent benefit with IPS that I'm missing, except for better viewing angles (which isn't a big deal to me anyway)?

Can you do a review maybe? I'm in the same boat - purchased a XF252QX but am eyeying with the VG259QM.

I've been using it for 2 days and I can give you my impressions. Keep in mind that I've previously been using a vg248qe for 6 years, so I don't have much experience with monitors to give any comparisons besides my old monitor.
For gaming I play different FPS competitively at the highest ranks and to me personally the difference in response rate between my old monitor and the VG259QM was immediately noticeable, and to me, it's enough of a difference to make me happy purchasing it.
While I'm not blown away by the picture, it is much prettier than my old monitor and the better viewing angles is a better feature than I thought it would be, because I tend to change my position a lot. Keep in mind that I'm as far from an expert about colors or image quality as one can be, but I feel like the colors don't pop out as much as I'd hoped, they seem more neutral and well balanced if that makes sense (maybe I'm just seeing it as it's supposed to look?).
On my old monitor, black spaces would look more greyish, but despite what people are saying, I think they look more black on the 259QM - however, it is harder to spot things in the dark areas.

While I'm very pleased with the responsiveness, I'm definitely not getting the full benefits for my preferences for these reasons:
The FPS I'm able to pull in OW varies between 140-220 FPS, so I have to use overdrive at 60, as the overshoot at 80 is too much.
Because of the variability of the game's FPS, the responsiveness changes, where it was more stable and reliable at my old 144hz monitor. Though the netchange is positive, I don't mind so much - and these issues will go away when I eventually upgrade my hardware.
I haven't touched the ELMB (or whatever it called), I prefer to keep input lag low and find these things gimicky.
I've disabled Gsync after playing around with it a bit, my old monitor didn't have it, and after trying it, I frankly do not understand why people emphasize the importance of having Gsync so much. The game feels less responsive with it on, and I'm not noticing any screen tearing without it anyway. Perhaps it will make a difference in other games with lower FPS.

Overall, coming from a VG248QE, I'm happy with this monitor. It cost only a little more than the XF252 in my country, so I'm guessing it was the best value option available.

Torby just wanted to thank you and say that I appreciate your review! It has made me think about getting one of those I'm currently between xf252QX and this one.
Have a nice weekend!

[RLCSContender*]

my LG ultragear 27gn750 arrived earlier today. Tested it out and did a response time/motion blur/colors/etc test.

that just about wraps up everything i need to know about the 240hz 1080p IPS monitor list. I've tested them all using Lagom so the results are in. The only monitor i did not measure is the alienware 2521(that recently got released) but it's using the 1st generaton AU optronics panel just like its 27 inch version. (along with the acer nitro x series, viewsonic xg270).

the AHVA IPS panels from AU optronics are the faster ones.

i don't want to spoil anything but here's a hint

There are only TWO IPS panels right now that can trade blow to blow with the upper middle end TN panels right now in terms of response time. These two are faster than most TN panels that aren't the high end TN. (BenQ zowie, omen x25, etc) but faster than middle to low end TN. I truly believe in a year or two, IPS will catch up to the high end TNs (and w/o much overshoot)> TN will probably go out of business soon or is limited to the budget friendly consumers.

[forii]

i don't want to spoil anything but here's a hint

There are only TWO IPS panels right now that can trade blow to blow with the upper middle end TN panels right now in terms of response time. These two are faster than most TN panels that aren't the high end TN. (BenQ zowie, omen x25, etc) but faster than middle to low end TN. I truly believe in a year or two, IPS will catch up to the high end TNs (and w/o much overshoot)> TN will probably go out of business soon or is limited to the budget friendly consumers.

Yes, you might be right, ips might close to the TN panels, for now it is only 1ms difference based on my new Asus:

[RLCSContender*]

around 3.6 is just about right(this is also confirmed by that chinese review). MY Lagom got 3.7-3.8 on average g2g response time but i'm fairly sure TFT's measuring is more accurate.

Then again, it makes no difference because if you use only ONE form of measurement(doesn't matter how accurate it is) and used that ONE measurement among all ips 240hz panels, then it's really not that difficult to tell what the fastest IPS 240hz panel is.

For example. if I used RTINGs or TFT's measurements and use that ONE measurement on ALL of the ips 240hz panel, the results should be the same, along with my lagom tests. The thing is, i'm the only one who has measured very IPS 240hz panel(since i took advantage amazon's generous return policy using one form of measurement). I believe that is the most accurate way to measure who truly is the fastest.

the #1 fastest IPS panel is WAY faster than the #2(close to 6-7 ms).I dont' want to upset some people here but it's not even remotely close. Lastly, the 280hz doesnt' matter because VG259qm/VG279qm refresh rate compliance is simply way too slow to implement the 280hz overclock. So although there wouldn't be inverse ghosting, there will be a lot of smearing(very common in VA. Smearing is basically ghosting/motion blur because the the panel isn't fast enough to keep up with the refresh rate.

the enhanced MPRT at 280hz however mitigate the smearing. However, the smearing is so bad that only a small % of transitions are compliant(less than 30%), that's horrendous. However ELMB SYNC outweight he pixel smearing because it increases motion clarity so the trade off is worth it. Then again, at 280hz, the input lag will go up, the response time g2g average went up and the subtle flickering will happen. all in all, it's just a marketing ploy. The VG279qm is simply not fast enough to keep up with the 280hz refresh rate unless u dont' mind pixel smearing and ghosting.(yes, this TRULy that bad, 25-30% transitions regarding the response time compliance is BEYOND terrible).

[callen62]

So you plan on sharing all of your results on your 240hz ips adventure cause instead of trying to guess like u have us now wed really like to know ya know?

[Chief Blur Buster]

In case it was missed — here’s a related thread, 240Hz IPS observations by RLSCotender
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=6543

[Rhosta]

In case it was missed — here’s a related thread, 240Hz IPS observations by RLSCotender
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=6543

This the link to this thread.

[Rhosta]

Few questions about MSI MAG251RX if you don’t mind:
1) Was stand bad because the base was too light/small?

2) I tried two budget monitors with wide color gamut and I didn’t like it because of the tint and worse text readability. Did MAG251RX had any of this?

3) So it is the fastest one on your list currently?

[callen62]

link just brings me to the first page good sir unless im missing something

[RLCSContender*]

So you plan on sharing all of your results on your 240hz ips adventure cause instead of trying to guess like u have us now wed really like to know ya know?

I had to do a retest before i RMA my VG279qm and 27gn750. My old oscilloscope couldn't get accurate measurements; however, i got one of the best semi-expensive oscilloscopes($300) yesterday (will return it of course LOL bcuz of amazon's generous return policy. I think i'm this close to getting banned from amazon. They weren't too happy that i kept on returning these expensive yet low quality monitors.

Thx to the covid lockdowns, i do have a lto of time on my hands. But i am extremely picky when I purchase a monitor. When i buy something, i want it to last for 3-4 yrs before i upgrade again.