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Re: BenQ Zowie XL2546K 240hz TN

Posted: 24 Dec 2020, 15:59
by steroid4sammy
Guys I have 1 more question. Is anybody else here who using an Nvidia GPU with xl2546k ?
Because I think the ,,issues'' that I have with my unit might be because of this weird compatibility between my 2070S and the xl2546k which is freesync...I don't know I might be wrong
I would like to hear opinions from other users who are having an Nvidia gpu and this monitor. Thank you

Re: BenQ Zowie XL2546K 240hz TN

Posted: 24 Dec 2020, 20:03
by Boomchakadah
steroid4sammy wrote:
24 Dec 2020, 15:59
Guys I have 1 more question. Is anybody else here who using an Nvidia GPU with xl2546k ?
Because I think the ,,issues'' that I have with my unit might be because of this weird compatibility between my 2070S and the xl2546k which is freesync...I don't know I might be wrong
I would like to hear opinions from other users who are having an Nvidia gpu and this monitor. Thank you
FreeSync fix in the comments https://www.reddit.com/r/Zowie/comments ... c_enabled/
steroid4sammy wrote:
24 Dec 2020, 15:59
so I have to select 240hz under ,,PC '' section
You should always use refresh rates from the PC section.
steroid4sammy wrote:
24 Dec 2020, 15:59
So my point is that 240 hz refresh rate doesn't look as crystal as 120 refresh rate
The difference between 120Hz and 240hz should be obvious.
Running two displays of different refresh rates can be buggy sometimes. Try disconnecting that Alienware for now, and then test the BenQ separately.
Also, in case you didn't know, Freesync doesn't work with DyAc enabled.
steroid4sammy wrote:
24 Dec 2020, 15:59
I made a screenshot but in the screenshot appears clear as crystal thou
To capture a problem with a display, you have to take a photo or video of the display with your phone camera(or any other camera).
To capture the UFO, you have to move the camera along with the UFO. like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJNy_ZOx8I0

Re: BenQ Zowie XL2546K 240hz TN

Posted: 26 Dec 2020, 03:40
by steroid4sammy
Boomchakadah wrote:
24 Dec 2020, 20:03
steroid4sammy wrote:
24 Dec 2020, 15:59
Guys I have 1 more question. Is anybody else here who using an Nvidia GPU with xl2546k ?
Because I think the ,,issues'' that I have with my unit might be because of this weird compatibility between my 2070S and the xl2546k which is freesync...I don't know I might be wrong
I would like to hear opinions from other users who are having an Nvidia gpu and this monitor. Thank you
FreeSync fix in the comments https://www.reddit.com/r/Zowie/comments ... c_enabled/
steroid4sammy wrote:
24 Dec 2020, 15:59
so I have to select 240hz under ,,PC '' section
You should always use refresh rates from the PC section.
steroid4sammy wrote:
24 Dec 2020, 15:59
So my point is that 240 hz refresh rate doesn't look as crystal as 120 refresh rate
The difference between 120Hz and 240hz should be obvious.
Running two displays of different refresh rates can be buggy sometimes. Try disconnecting that Alienware for now, and then test the BenQ separately.
Also, in case you didn't know, Freesync doesn't work with DyAc enabled.
steroid4sammy wrote:
24 Dec 2020, 15:59
I made a screenshot but in the screenshot appears clear as crystal thou
To capture a problem with a display, you have to take a photo or video of the display with your phone camera(or any other camera).
To capture the UFO, you have to move the camera along with the UFO. like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJNy_ZOx8I0


Thank you

Re: BenQ Zowie XL2546K 240hz TN

Posted: 26 Dec 2020, 04:20
by steroid4sammy
FreeSync fix in the comments https://www.reddit.com/r/Zowie/comments ... c_enabled/


That helped me a lot. I think I finally came to an conclusion on my specific issue.
The problem I think is the freesync and I changed with CRU the range from 24-240 to 48-240 hz. Now my questions left are this :
Can I or should I disable somehow permanently freesync ? ( Is this causing problems ?) Like I said, I am using a 2070 Super GPU so the compatibility it might be an issue
In UFO tests the image is clearer at 240hz a bit now but still not as crystal as it should be and as I've seen on youtube to other guys
I don't care about freesync or G-sync, I just wanna have motion clarity as good as this monitor can provide.

That link was really helpfull to have a better understanding on what is going on, so I've checked with CRU and yes, I had my range seted to 24-240 hz instead 48-240. Should I make it even a bit higher than 48-240 ? Can cause any problems ?

Re: BenQ Zowie XL2546K 240hz TN

Posted: 26 Dec 2020, 04:35
by steroid4sammy
And one more important aspect if you can help me with, @Boomchakadah, If I am using an Nvidia GPU with this xl2546k monitor, what scaling do you suggest me to use ? ,,Perform scaling on Display / GPU '' and should I tick or untick this box : ,,Override the scaling mode set by games and programs" ?

Re: BenQ Zowie XL2546K 240hz TN

Posted: 27 Dec 2020, 00:18
by ysssgdhr
axaro1 wrote:
22 Dec 2020, 18:45
Ogmilkman wrote:
22 Dec 2020, 18:11
Is this at 960 pixels/sec? I think I might have just gotten lucky my VG259QM shows much less artifacting than yours
Yes.

Can you record an ufotest to compare your results?

Interesting observation about VG259QM and XL2546K. I have checked reviews of both these monitors on rtings(.com), and response time of Asus 'beats' BENQ in every single way.
But your experience explain more. Maybe response time doesn't mean everything..?
I'm using VG259QM currently and I am a severe FPS player(cod/apex/destiny2 fast pace fps). If I switch my monitor to 2546K , can I observe improvement instantly? Can you give my some more advice and experience, my friend?

Re: BenQ Zowie XL2546K 240hz TN

Posted: 27 Dec 2020, 13:36
by axaro1
ysssgdhr wrote:
27 Dec 2020, 00:18
Interesting observation about VG259QM and XL2546K. I have checked reviews of both these monitors on rtings(.com), and response time of Asus 'beats' BENQ in every single way.
But your experience explain more. Maybe response time doesn't mean everything..?
I'm using VG259QM currently and I am a severe FPS player(cod/apex/destiny2 fast pace fps). If I switch my monitor to 2546K , can I observe improvement instantly? Can you give my some more advice and experience, my friend?
RTings comparison shows that the VG259QM with OD60 beats the XL2546k AMA set to OFF, which is correct.

However there is absolutely no point in not using AMA High on the Benq, which provides the same G2G as the VG259QM with OD80 but with much less overshoot.

Check out this video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJNy_ZOx8I0), on the left side it's the XL2546K with 14.7% and 1.7ms of G2G and on the right side it's the VG259QM with 8.6% overshoot and 2.6ms G2G.

TN panels are much better at dissipating overshoot artifacts.

Re: BenQ Zowie XL2546K 240hz TN

Posted: 27 Dec 2020, 23:30
by ysssgdhr
axaro1 wrote:
27 Dec 2020, 13:36
ysssgdhr wrote:
27 Dec 2020, 00:18
Interesting observation about VG259QM and XL2546K. I have checked reviews of both these monitors on rtings(.com), and response time of Asus 'beats' BENQ in every single way.
But your experience explain more. Maybe response time doesn't mean everything..?
I'm using VG259QM currently and I am a severe FPS player(cod/apex/destiny2 fast pace fps). If I switch my monitor to 2546K , can I observe improvement instantly? Can you give my some more advice and experience, my friend?
RTings comparison shows that the VG259QM with OD60 beats the XL2546k AMA set to OFF, which is correct.

However there is absolutely no point in not using AMA High on the Benq, which provides the same G2G as the VG259QM with OD80 but with much less overshoot.

Check out this video the left side it's the XL2546K with 14.7% and 1.7ms of G2G and on the right side it's the VG259QM with 8.6% overshoot and 2.6ms G2G.

TN panels are much better at dissipating overshoot artifacts.
Thank you. Yes, TN is just better.😯

Re: BenQ Zowie XL2546K 240hz TN

Posted: 27 Dec 2020, 23:46
by Ogmilkman
axaro1 wrote:
27 Dec 2020, 13:36
ysssgdhr wrote:
27 Dec 2020, 00:18
Interesting observation about VG259QM and XL2546K. I have checked reviews of both these monitors on rtings(.com), and response time of Asus 'beats' BENQ in every single way.
But your experience explain more. Maybe response time doesn't mean everything..?
I'm using VG259QM currently and I am a severe FPS player(cod/apex/destiny2 fast pace fps). If I switch my monitor to 2546K , can I observe improvement instantly? Can you give my some more advice and experience, my friend?
RTings comparison shows that the VG259QM with OD60 beats the XL2546k AMA set to OFF, which is correct.

However there is absolutely no point in not using AMA High on the Benq, which provides the same G2G as the VG259QM with OD80 but with much less overshoot.

Check out this video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJNy_ZOx8I0), on the left side it's the XL2546K with 14.7% and 1.7ms of G2G and on the right side it's the VG259QM with 8.6% overshoot and 2.6ms G2G.

TN panels are much better at dissipating overshoot artifacts.
Here's my ASUS again: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0DAKf9mTZc. It's pretty comparable to your XL2546K at 120 OD and much better than my XL2546K which had just a little bit less ghosting than your ASUS. Seems to me at this point it's just a panel lottery between the two monitors.

Re: BenQ Zowie XL2546K 240hz TN

Posted: 28 Dec 2020, 00:50
by ysssgdhr
Ogmilkman wrote:
27 Dec 2020, 23:46
axaro1 wrote:
27 Dec 2020, 13:36
ysssgdhr wrote:
27 Dec 2020, 00:18
Interesting observation about VG259QM and XL2546K. I have checked reviews of both these monitors on rtings(.com), and response time of Asus 'beats' BENQ in every single way.
But your experience explain more. Maybe response time doesn't mean everything..?
I'm using VG259QM currently and I am a severe FPS player(cod/apex/destiny2 fast pace fps). If I switch my monitor to 2546K , can I observe improvement instantly? Can you give my some more advice and experience, my friend?
RTings comparison shows that the VG259QM with OD60 beats the XL2546k AMA set to OFF, which is correct.

However there is absolutely no point in not using AMA High on the Benq, which provides the same G2G as the VG259QM with OD80 but with much less overshoot.

Check out this video (ch?v=mJNy_ZOx8I0), on the left side it's the XL2546K with 14.7% and 1.7ms of G2G and on the right side it's the VG259QM with 8.6% overshoot and 2.6ms G2G.

TN panels are much better at dissipating overshoot artifacts.
Here's my ASUS again:. It's pretty comparable to your XL2546K at 120 OD and much better than my XL2546K which had just a little bit less ghosting than your ASUS. Seems to me at this point it's just a panel lottery between the two monitors.

Excuse me.120OD..? My vg259qm overdrive can only be set at 100 maximum.