No FPS gaming possible

[donger]

then you have to be able to prove it?

Ok now i see you actually WANT to waste your life on this, you WANT to pour another 1000 hours into this for literally no reason. You have huge problems with accepting reality so you wanna go balls deep into desync religion and test another 999 placebo schozophrenic "fixes". Don't worry bro after 10 years you will SURELY fix it

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[ChristophSmaul1337]

100% of his problems are ISP related

I've been working with network related things for quite a while, and I know a bit about how this stuff works, all the way down to the "Layer 1" level. However, I'm always happy to learn new things. I am genuinely curious about what you saw in OP's description, pictures or other statements which tells you with 100% confidence that his ISP must be at fault. From what I've read and seen here, I wouldn't come to that conclusion, but I might be lacking critical information. You seem very confident, to the point where you call others a

SCHIZO

I'm open for new insights that might have flown underneath my radar for the 20 years or so that I've been dealing with computers and networks. I know for you this is absolutely obvious and you're very likely a 160+ IQ genius, but us mere mortals aren't as knowledgeable as you, so please take 5 minutes out of your highly valued time to explain to us peasants what's making you so confident. Thanks a lot.

[donger]

Thanks a lot.

Actually let's bring it down to 99% since to this day he still haven't replaced his router/modem. I guess ordering one on amazon.de and then returning it for free after tests is beyond him, he rather test the next 1337 cmd commands instead.

Funny how you have 20 years experience and you can't simply connect the dots oh well i guess we need to look for that one indian on YT with his anti lag tutorials and it will fix alllll the issues

[LaggyTyp]

I understand your stance on this issue.

BUT: If there's a problem, then it's 100% tangible, visible, measurable, whatever. If not, then we don't understand it yet, but a problem like this (gaming) should be measurable.

[donger]

I understand your stance on this issue.

BUT: If there's a problem, then it's 100% tangible, visible, measurable, whatever. If not, then we don't understand it yet, but a problem like this (gaming) should be measurable.

why haven't you replaced your modem/router like you did with your entire PC? << PLEASE ANSWER THAT, this will literally be the final and ultimate proof it's not an issue on your end.

Bro the tools you are using to "measure" are absolute dogpiss. I have literal perfect FFTH connection, zero input lag(perceivable)
, zero packets dropped, the ISP servers and routing is perfect and the tool you are using are saying my connection is C rate which is 100% wrong!!!

Your ISP uses 25 year old tech which is KNOWN to cause problem in germany. I literally watch a german streamer right now which hasIDENTICAL problems like do yo(hornet streaming hunt showdown). I also had your problems god damn 20 years ago because of horrible ISP infrastructure which you can do nothing about. How many times do you need to hear the same thing.

[LaggyTyp]

Four technicians have been here in the last eight weeks. They replaced all five outlets and installed two new routers. I now have my third router (FritzBox 6690 Cable), and hold on tight: I received my fourth router (FritzBox 6670 Cable) today (just now). I'll connect it as soon as the kids are asleep.

But it won't help. The last time I played with VDSL (Telekom), it was terrible, too.

I told myself back then that it was bad peering, but it was exactly the same as now.

[themagic]

I agree that germany has not perfect internet and there many things to do and improvement and areas...but somehow it all worked before 2018 and everyone here gonna agree with me and even the guys who dont living in germany...but experience same very similar issues...somehow...and now in these days and to 2025...

and this has nothing more to do with ISP or SHIZO like you think...

[ChristophSmaul1337]

Funny how you have 20 years experience and you can't simply connect the dots

So explain it, then? As I said, I'm a mere mortal, I don't have the ability of a super genius like you to connect some dots that aren't immediately apparent. You said a whole bunch of nothing with your post. For a person as knowledgeable as you are, it shouldn't be difficult to answer my question(s). All I'm asking is to point your finger to the statement(s), test(s) or picture(s) the OP has posted, that gives you the 99% confidence his ISP is at fault. You're "shouting"

PLEASE ANSWER THAT

in full capslock towards the OP but you're yourself not answering any questions that I asked you. How's that fair?

Your ISP uses 25 year old tech which is KNOWN to cause problem in germany.

Is it? Any more than other ISP's? Actually, if you want to go after a german ISP for being shit, you'd be looking at Telekom for their horrendous and diabolical peering. Vodafone has the upper hand, because they're operating their own infrastructure and are peered at DE-CIX in Frankfurt with 2x 600G, in Düsseldorf with 100G and in Munich with 100G. Additionally, they're peered with MegaIX in Düsseldorf and Munich with another 100G each. Compare that with Telekom peering: They're only peered at DE-CIX in Frankfurt with a mesely 110G. That's it. Vodafone is not only not a problem, it's actually recommended a lot when people have problems with Telekom's peering.

Also, if Vodafone (and their DOCSIS connections in particular) are such a big problem, why do I personally know someone who plays on a Vodafone DOCSIS connection without problems whatsoever? She lives in a major city, in an apartment complex with at least 30 other flats, in the middle of a street with at least 50 more of these buildings, with at least 30 flats each. With that in mind, please point out why that wouldn't be a problem for my friend, but the same exact technology used at OP's house, somehow is.

I have literal perfect FFTH connection

So do I. Yet I can manipulate my setup in specific ways that have NOTHING to do with my internet connection, and I can get the input lag, terrible overall feeling and desync back in an instant. What's that about? Where is the super obvious connection to my ISP when all I'm doing is moving power cables around in a socket? Can you explain that for my tiny brain, please?

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[donger]

Four technicians have been here in the last eight weeks. They replaced all five outlets and installed two new routers. I now have my third router (FritzBox 6690 Cable), and hold on tight: I received my fourth router (FritzBox 6670 Cable) today (just now). I'll connect it as soon as the kids are asleep.

But it won't help. The last time I played with VDSL (Telekom), it was terrible, too.

I told myself back then that it was bad peering, but it was exactly the same as now.

Ok i didn't know that, i thought you are using the same router all the time. Then i am reverting back to 100% that the ISP is at fault.

You could literally pack your PC, come to my home, connect it and you would have absolutely flawless gameplay. No idea why those guys wasted your time for over 1 month when there is nothing wrong with your PC.

If you tested all ISP possible for your address, you replaced your entire PC, routers have been replaced even twice, there is virtually nothing to test anymore. Your ISP is at fault.

[themagic]

Four technicians have been here in the last eight weeks. They replaced all five outlets and installed two new routers. I now have my third router (FritzBox 6690 Cable), and hold on tight: I received my fourth router (FritzBox 6670 Cable) today (just now). I'll connect it as soon as the kids are asleep.

But it won't help. The last time I played with VDSL (Telekom), it was terrible, too.

I told myself back then that it was bad peering, but it was exactly the same as now.

Ok i didn't know that, i thought you are using the same router all the time. Then i am reverting back to 100% that the ISP is at fault.

I can tell you even more...i tried to flash my fritzbox to openwrt...

We all already tried many things with our Routers and even tried 3rd party Routers just to solve somehow our problem..