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It's clearly not how it work in all case, if you drop below your max FPS, frametimes become less stable you feel lag and this lag are even more noticeable.Supermodel_Evelynn wrote: ↑06 May 2024, 22:52According to rtings there is virtually zero input delay with strobing. 2.9ms counts as 0 because it takes a whopping 15ms for 1 frame of input delay in order to make any kind of significant impact, 5ms is the minimum that is considered noticeable by pros and even they have failed a double blind test on that.
your argument is really not credible, you are basing yourself on an experienced player to say "this screen has no visible input lag because a player beat someone else"Supermodel_Evelynn wrote: ↑06 May 2024, 22:52XG2431 increased "lag" with strobing enabled is an old LIE, MenaRd just beat all the Japanese fighting gaming gods with their wired arcade stick at EVO Japan Street Fighter 6 using a cheap default wireless bluetooth controller consistently pulling off perfect parry
No one cares (as much as you) about using a Zowie at 60hz but listen, fight for yourself.Supermodel_Evelynn wrote: ↑06 May 2024, 22:52Even with the 2.9ms strobing "Lag" combined with 8.8ms input delay at 60 HZ the XG2431 still has lower input delay than the fastest Zowie E Sport gaming monitor at 60 HZ without strobing.
You meant “invalid” right?Kuscheln_Hammer92 wrote: ↑04 May 2024, 19:22Your reasons for returning the xg2431 are completely valid. I will say that the strobing lag is reduced tremendously by using a custom resolution with a lvt. While you do not want a CPU bottleneck, you don't want your GPU maxed or above 90% either when it comes to reducing input latency. That's why I play my games with an in game limiter or Special K. I understand any brightness concerns but I myself play in the dark anyway. Borderlands 2 at 120hz after dialing in the strobe was pure perfection. It's actually better most times to use rtss or special k because their limiters can also act as sync tech, allowing you to move the tearline off screen. You get both low input latency and smooth tearless gaming. Just only use it on single player games unless you want a ban.
What are your top 3 monitors?Sirius wrote: ↑19 May 2024, 10:23You meant “invalid” right?Kuscheln_Hammer92 wrote: ↑04 May 2024, 19:22Your reasons for returning the xg2431 are completely valid. I will say that the strobing lag is reduced tremendously by using a custom resolution with a lvt. While you do not want a CPU bottleneck, you don't want your GPU maxed or above 90% either when it comes to reducing input latency. That's why I play my games with an in game limiter or Special K. I understand any brightness concerns but I myself play in the dark anyway. Borderlands 2 at 120hz after dialing in the strobe was pure perfection. It's actually better most times to use rtss or special k because their limiters can also act as sync tech, allowing you to move the tearline off screen. You get both low input latency and smooth tearless gaming. Just only use it on single player games unless you want a ban.
In fact, i'm the only one who decided if it's actually valid or not for my case O_o , don't get me wrong, i tried everything but when I buy a screen, I don't want to be a nerd by customizing resolutions for hours or days, I want to > play.
CRU is a very interesting tool and we can do good things with certain monitors (like with the XL2566K) but I don't have any use for it, I play better without it and I don't specially need it, if you enjoy your XG2431, it's cool for you, that's not my case and not the case of a lot of people, i understand the demand of people by wanting a good 60hz/120hz without motion blur, i really understand that but it's not perfect like some say.
About solo games, i don't play on small monitor, i prefer to play on my extra large 60hz OLED TV and enjoy 4K and graphics, i will never use a small 24inch 1080p monitor for that.
What are your favorite monitors?Sirius wrote: ↑19 May 2024, 10:23You meant “invalid” right?Kuscheln_Hammer92 wrote: ↑04 May 2024, 19:22Your reasons for returning the xg2431 are completely valid. I will say that the strobing lag is reduced tremendously by using a custom resolution with a lvt. While you do not want a CPU bottleneck, you don't want your GPU maxed or above 90% either when it comes to reducing input latency. That's why I play my games with an in game limiter or Special K. I understand any brightness concerns but I myself play in the dark anyway. Borderlands 2 at 120hz after dialing in the strobe was pure perfection. It's actually better most times to use rtss or special k because their limiters can also act as sync tech, allowing you to move the tearline off screen. You get both low input latency and smooth tearless gaming. Just only use it on single player games unless you want a ban.
In fact, i'm the only one who decided if it's actually valid or not for my case O_o , don't get me wrong, i tried everything but when I buy a screen, I don't want to be a nerd by customizing resolutions for hours or days, I want to > play.
CRU is a very interesting tool and we can do good things with certain monitors (like with the XL2566K) but I don't have any use for it, I play better without it and I don't specially need it, if you enjoy your XG2431, it's cool for you, that's not my case and not the case of a lot of people, i understand the demand of people by wanting a good 60hz/120hz without motion blur, i really understand that but it's not perfect like some say.
About solo games, i don't play on small monitor, i prefer to play on my extra large 60hz OLED TV and enjoy 4K and graphics, i will never use a small 24inch 1080p monitor for that.
Lol fam I was saying you were valid because you don't have to defend what you do or don't do with your money. All of these experiences are subjective and to each their own.Sirius wrote: ↑19 May 2024, 10:23You meant “invalid” right?Kuscheln_Hammer92 wrote: ↑04 May 2024, 19:22Your reasons for returning the xg2431 are completely valid. I will say that the strobing lag is reduced tremendously by using a custom resolution with a lvt. While you do not want a CPU bottleneck, you don't want your GPU maxed or above 90% either when it comes to reducing input latency. That's why I play my games with an in game limiter or Special K. I understand any brightness concerns but I myself play in the dark anyway. Borderlands 2 at 120hz after dialing in the strobe was pure perfection. It's actually better most times to use rtss or special k because their limiters can also act as sync tech, allowing you to move the tearline off screen. You get both low input latency and smooth tearless gaming. Just only use it on single player games unless you want a ban.
In fact, i'm the only one who decided if it's actually valid or not for my case O_o , don't get me wrong, i tried everything but when I buy a screen, I don't want to be a nerd by customizing resolutions for hours or days, I want to > play.
CRU is a very interesting tool and we can do good things with certain monitors (like with the XL2566K) but I don't have any use for it, I play better without it and I don't specially need it, if you enjoy your XG2431, it's cool for you, that's not my case and not the case of a lot of people, i understand the demand of people by wanting a good 60hz/120hz without motion blur, i really understand that but it's not perfect like some say.
About solo games, i don't play on small monitor, i prefer to play on my extra large 60hz OLED TV and enjoy 4K and graphics, i will never use a small 24inch 1080p monitor for that.
Already realised that I was dealing with a troll, no worries. Just ignore and carry on
OfcKuscheln_Hammer92 wrote: ↑29 May 2024, 10:50Lol fam I was saying you were valid because you don't have to defend what you do or don't do with your money. All of these experiences are subjective and to each their own.
Sorry for late reply, i didn't come here recently because i do a LOT of test and change on my setup like :Liu wrote: ↑29 May 2024, 21:44@Sirius
Thanks for your reply. Sorry that it took so long to provide an update.
I ended up trying the BenQ XL2546K at the same time. My expectations for it were extremely low yet it absolutely blew the ViewSonic XG2431 out of the water. It was more responsive, DyAc was actually worth using, there was no black crush, I could calibrate the colours to look better than stock and I appreciated the panel being a tad bigger. I immediately noticed that AMA off was not the most optimal setting as you pointed out which begs the question how RTINGS produced their testing results.
PureXP on the ViewSonic XG2431 was far too slow for competitive use. The XG2431 really is a niche monitor and extremely overrated for what it is.
BenQ proved to me that TN is still relevant in 2024 although DyAc is what sold me. The increased clarity without sacrificing performance versus a monitor without it is like night and day.
In fact I have since settled on the BenQ XL2546X (the 240Hz 2024 refresh). I am completely aware of the shortcomings of TN but it clearly still is the undefeated champion for competitive gaming today. I know that could change with future OLED+BFI monitors though.
I kind of wish that BenQ offered an XL2566X (a 360Hz 2024 refresh) as I pretty much never drop below 300fps after upgrading my PC.
Already realised that I was dealing with a troll, no worries. Just ignore and carry on