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Re: Electrical input lag started when my dad changed from 15 to 30 amps
Posted: 25 Aug 2024, 07:27
by widow13
F1zus wrote: ↑25 Aug 2024, 07:08
widow13 wrote: ↑25 Aug 2024, 06:22
Yeah, pretty much the same issues I had and people in my house still have them because they do not have a UPS installed.
Did you try contacting your power company about it ?
I'll contact them by monday and try to fix it for the whole house.
My energy company is a monopoly and they answer - either you use our electricity, or we turn it off and you sit with candles and kerosene lamps, like in the 18th century )))
According to the laws of my country, up to 8% harmonic distortion in the electrical network is the norm.
Harmonic distortion begins at 100 Hz and ends at 5000 Hz (harmonic of the 50th order), everything above is not taken into account.
Naturally, according to such parameters, my outlet has about 2% distortion.
But in fact, there are distortions above 5000 Hz.
I do not know what frequency distortion has a negative effect on the computer. I do not know.
But in any case, pure electricity (without distortion), a sine wave of only 50 Hz ensures stable operation of the computer.
That is why solar panels help people with bad electricity
I understand, that's kinda sad and I wish that's not the same case for me.
I'll let you know what happens with mine, I have insane voltage drop too which is not acceptable so they'll probably look out for it.
There are many power companies here so they'll probably be afraid of losing clients.
Re: Electrical input lag started when my dad changed from 15 to 30 amps
Posted: 29 Aug 2024, 07:06
by widow13
F1zus wrote: ↑25 Aug 2024, 07:08
widow13 wrote: ↑25 Aug 2024, 06:22
Yeah, pretty much the same issues I had and people in my house still have them because they do not have a UPS installed.
Did you try contacting your power company about it ?
I'll contact them by monday and try to fix it for the whole house.
My energy company is a monopoly and they answer - either you use our electricity, or we turn it off and you sit with candles and kerosene lamps, like in the 18th century )))
According to the laws of my country, up to 8% harmonic distortion in the electrical network is the norm.
Harmonic distortion begins at 100 Hz and ends at 5000 Hz (harmonic of the 50th order), everything above is not taken into account.
Naturally, according to such parameters, my outlet has about 2% distortion.
But in fact, there are distortions above 5000 Hz.
I do not know what frequency distortion has a negative effect on the computer. I do not know.
But in any case, pure electricity (without distortion), a sine wave of only 50 Hz ensures stable operation of the computer.
That is why solar panels help people with bad electricity
Power company came today, as I thought they found the power line to be faulty.
213 voltage "under load". Kitchen,boiler and 1 ac. He said it shouldn't even move with that load and it's faulty. Plus it fluctuates 24/7 when it shouldn't move at all.
Either today or tomorrow they're gonna change the whole cabling and put a new power box across the road too.
Will let you know how that works out.
Re: Electrical input lag started when my dad changed from 15 to 30 amps
Posted: 29 Aug 2024, 16:11
by amorou
widow13 wrote: ↑29 Aug 2024, 07:06
F1zus wrote: ↑25 Aug 2024, 07:08
widow13 wrote: ↑25 Aug 2024, 06:22
Yeah, pretty much the same issues I had and people in my house still have them because they do not have a UPS installed.
Did you try contacting your power company about it ?
I'll contact them by monday and try to fix it for the whole house.
My energy company is a monopoly and they answer - either you use our electricity, or we turn it off and you sit with candles and kerosene lamps, like in the 18th century )))
According to the laws of my country, up to 8% harmonic distortion in the electrical network is the norm.
Harmonic distortion begins at 100 Hz and ends at 5000 Hz (harmonic of the 50th order), everything above is not taken into account.
Naturally, according to such parameters, my outlet has about 2% distortion.
But in fact, there are distortions above 5000 Hz.
I do not know what frequency distortion has a negative effect on the computer. I do not know.
But in any case, pure electricity (without distortion), a sine wave of only 50 Hz ensures stable operation of the computer.
That is why solar panels help people with bad electricity
Power company came today, as I thought they found the power line to be faulty.
213 voltage "under load". Kitchen,boiler and 1 ac. He said it shouldn't even move with that load and it's faulty. Plus it fluctuates 24/7 when it shouldn't move at all.
Either today or tomorrow they're gonna change the whole cabling and put a new power box across the road too.
Will let you know how that works out.
What is your country default voltage , 230 or 220 ?
Which point voltage reading taken under load ? from outside pole ?
"Plus it fluctuates 24/7 when it shouldn't move at all"
What did you mean by that , does multimeter's shown voltage flactuate +1 -1 , +2 -2 every half a second ?
Or just big flactuations in unexpected hours
Re: Electrical input lag started when my dad changed from 15 to 30 amps
Posted: 29 Aug 2024, 16:32
by widow13
amorou wrote: ↑29 Aug 2024, 16:11
widow13 wrote: ↑29 Aug 2024, 07:06
F1zus wrote: ↑25 Aug 2024, 07:08
widow13 wrote: ↑25 Aug 2024, 06:22
Yeah, pretty much the same issues I had and people in my house still have them because they do not have a UPS installed.
Did you try contacting your power company about it ?
I'll contact them by monday and try to fix it for the whole house.
My energy company is a monopoly and they answer - either you use our electricity, or we turn it off and you sit with candles and kerosene lamps, like in the 18th century )))
According to the laws of my country, up to 8% harmonic distortion in the electrical network is the norm.
Harmonic distortion begins at 100 Hz and ends at 5000 Hz (harmonic of the 50th order), everything above is not taken into account.
Naturally, according to such parameters, my outlet has about 2% distortion.
But in fact, there are distortions above 5000 Hz.
I do not know what frequency distortion has a negative effect on the computer. I do not know.
But in any case, pure electricity (without distortion), a sine wave of only 50 Hz ensures stable operation of the computer.
That is why solar panels help people with bad electricity
Power company came today, as I thought they found the power line to be faulty.
213 voltage "under load". Kitchen,boiler and 1 ac. He said it shouldn't even move with that load and it's faulty. Plus it fluctuates 24/7 when it shouldn't move at all.
Either today or tomorrow they're gonna change the whole cabling and put a new power box across the road too.
Will let you know how that works out.
What is your country default voltage , 230 or 220 ?
Which point voltage reading taken under load ? from outside pole ?
"Plus it fluctuates 24/7 when it shouldn't move at all"
What did you mean by that , does multimeter's shown voltage flactuate +1 -1 , +2 -2 every half a second ?
Or just big flactuations in unexpected hours
The default voltage is 230.
He measured on the power meter, I believe the cables that come to it from the pole.
+1,-1,+2,-2 every other second yes, sometimes it fluctuates even more and might get -5 without any reason at all.
Re: Electrical input lag started when my dad changed from 15 to 30 amps
Posted: 29 Aug 2024, 17:40
by amorou
widow13 wrote: ↑29 Aug 2024, 16:32
amorou wrote: ↑29 Aug 2024, 16:11
widow13 wrote: ↑29 Aug 2024, 07:06
F1zus wrote: ↑25 Aug 2024, 07:08
My energy company is a monopoly and they answer - either you use our electricity, or we turn it off and you sit with candles and kerosene lamps, like in the 18th century )))
According to the laws of my country, up to 8% harmonic distortion in the electrical network is the norm.
Harmonic distortion begins at 100 Hz and ends at 5000 Hz (harmonic of the 50th order), everything above is not taken into account.
Naturally, according to such parameters, my outlet has about 2% distortion.
But in fact, there are distortions above 5000 Hz.
I do not know what frequency distortion has a negative effect on the computer. I do not know.
But in any case, pure electricity (without distortion), a sine wave of only 50 Hz ensures stable operation of the computer.
That is why solar panels help people with bad electricity
Power company came today, as I thought they found the power line to be faulty.
213 voltage "under load". Kitchen,boiler and 1 ac. He said it shouldn't even move with that load and it's faulty. Plus it fluctuates 24/7 when it shouldn't move at all.
Either today or tomorrow they're gonna change the whole cabling and put a new power box across the road too.
Will let you know how that works out.
What is your country default voltage , 230 or 220 ?
Which point voltage reading taken under load ? from outside pole ?
"Plus it fluctuates 24/7 when it shouldn't move at all"
What did you mean by that , does multimeter's shown voltage flactuate +1 -1 , +2 -2 every half a second ?
Or just big flactuations in unexpected hours
The default voltage is 230.
He measured on the power meter, I believe the cables that come to it from the pole.
+1,-1,+2,-2 every other second yes, sometimes it fluctuates even more and might get -5 without any reason at all.
I have this +2 -2 thing too , rapidly changing
Also when I run couple of watt hungry applications at the same time , voltage reading from my breaker shows a drop from 235 to 220 , and I could run a lot more.
Sadly in my country no one gives fk unless some things explode , please keep us updated.
Re: Electrical input lag started when my dad changed from 15 to 30 amps
Posted: 30 Aug 2024, 06:33
by widow13
amorou wrote: ↑29 Aug 2024, 17:40
widow13 wrote: ↑29 Aug 2024, 16:32
amorou wrote: ↑29 Aug 2024, 16:11
widow13 wrote: ↑29 Aug 2024, 07:06
Power company came today, as I thought they found the power line to be faulty.
213 voltage "under load". Kitchen,boiler and 1 ac. He said it shouldn't even move with that load and it's faulty. Plus it fluctuates 24/7 when it shouldn't move at all.
Either today or tomorrow they're gonna change the whole cabling and put a new power box across the road too.
Will let you know how that works out.
What is your country default voltage , 230 or 220 ?
Which point voltage reading taken under load ? from outside pole ?
"Plus it fluctuates 24/7 when it shouldn't move at all"
What did you mean by that , does multimeter's shown voltage flactuate +1 -1 , +2 -2 every half a second ?
Or just big flactuations in unexpected hours
The default voltage is 230.
He measured on the power meter, I believe the cables that come to it from the pole.
+1,-1,+2,-2 every other second yes, sometimes it fluctuates even more and might get -5 without any reason at all.
I have this +2 -2 thing too , rapidly changing
Also when I run couple of watt hungry applications at the same time , voltage reading from my breaker shows a drop from 235 to 220 , and I could run a lot more.
Sadly in my country no one gives fk unless some things explode , please keep us updated.
So small update.
They did change the cable and box but it made 0 difference to voltage, so the problem lies somewhere else.
It still goes insanely low when you use any device in the house and he said that it normally shouldn't even move.
They'll probably fix it by Monday, I'll update further.
Re: Electrical input lag started when my dad changed from 15 to 30 amps
Posted: 01 Sep 2024, 11:14
by AudAmerica
widow13 wrote: ↑30 Aug 2024, 06:33
amorou wrote: ↑29 Aug 2024, 17:40
widow13 wrote: ↑29 Aug 2024, 16:32
amorou wrote: ↑29 Aug 2024, 16:11
What is your country default voltage , 230 or 220 ?
Which point voltage reading taken under load ? from outside pole ?
"Plus it fluctuates 24/7 when it shouldn't move at all"
What did you mean by that , does multimeter's shown voltage flactuate +1 -1 , +2 -2 every half a second ?
Or just big flactuations in unexpected hours
The default voltage is 230.
He measured on the power meter, I believe the cables that come to it from the pole.
+1,-1,+2,-2 every other second yes, sometimes it fluctuates even more and might get -5 without any reason at all.
I have this +2 -2 thing too , rapidly changing
Also when I run couple of watt hungry applications at the same time , voltage reading from my breaker shows a drop from 235 to 220 , and I could run a lot more.
Sadly in my country no one gives fk unless some things explode , please keep us updated.
So small update.
They did change the cable and box but it made 0 difference to voltage, so the problem lies somewhere else.
It still goes insanely low when you use any device in the house and he said that it normally shouldn't even move.
They'll probably fix it by Monday, I'll update further.
Have you ever used a UPS and the problem came back?
Re: Electrical input lag started when my dad changed from 15 to 30 amps
Posted: 01 Sep 2024, 21:33
by widow13
AudAmerica wrote: ↑01 Sep 2024, 11:14
widow13 wrote: ↑30 Aug 2024, 06:33
amorou wrote: ↑29 Aug 2024, 17:40
widow13 wrote: ↑29 Aug 2024, 16:32
The default voltage is 230.
He measured on the power meter, I believe the cables that come to it from the pole.
+1,-1,+2,-2 every other second yes, sometimes it fluctuates even more and might get -5 without any reason at all.
I have this +2 -2 thing too , rapidly changing
Also when I run couple of watt hungry applications at the same time , voltage reading from my breaker shows a drop from 235 to 220 , and I could run a lot more.
Sadly in my country no one gives fk unless some things explode , please keep us updated.
So small update.
They did change the cable and box but it made 0 difference to voltage, so the problem lies somewhere else.
It still goes insanely low when you use any device in the house and he said that it normally shouldn't even move.
They'll probably fix it by Monday, I'll update further.
Have you ever used a UPS and the problem came back?
It did not but it probably will if the UPS keeps compensating 20+ voltage all the time.
Will probably break down sooner or later, that's why I'm looking to fix the source of the issues.
They are made to stabilise voltage, but that amount of voltage seems a bit too much.
Re: Electrical input lag started when my dad changed from 15 to 30 amps
Posted: 03 Sep 2024, 10:13
by amorou
widow13 wrote: ↑30 Aug 2024, 06:33
amorou wrote: ↑29 Aug 2024, 17:40
widow13 wrote: ↑29 Aug 2024, 16:32
amorou wrote: ↑29 Aug 2024, 16:11
What is your country default voltage , 230 or 220 ?
Which point voltage reading taken under load ? from outside pole ?
"Plus it fluctuates 24/7 when it shouldn't move at all"
What did you mean by that , does multimeter's shown voltage flactuate +1 -1 , +2 -2 every half a second ?
Or just big flactuations in unexpected hours
The default voltage is 230.
He measured on the power meter, I believe the cables that come to it from the pole.
+1,-1,+2,-2 every other second yes, sometimes it fluctuates even more and might get -5 without any reason at all.
I have this +2 -2 thing too , rapidly changing
Also when I run couple of watt hungry applications at the same time , voltage reading from my breaker shows a drop from 235 to 220 , and I could run a lot more.
Sadly in my country no one gives fk unless some things explode , please keep us updated.
So small update.
They did change the cable and box but it made 0 difference to voltage, so the problem lies somewhere else.
It still goes insanely low when you use any device in the house and he said that it normally shouldn't even move.
They'll probably fix it by Monday, I'll update further.
Any updates ?
Re: Electrical input lag started when my dad changed from 15 to 30 amps
Posted: 03 Sep 2024, 10:40
by bwainzz
This week I also called the electrician from my power company, he measured and analyzed the power directly from the power pole on my street, there was no variation in electrical voltage and the power was reaching the voltage it should. Honestly, I don't know what to think anymore, I made an individual grounding in the socket where I use my PC/monitor/modem, unfortunately none of this helps.