HIGH % YOUR InputLag/HitReg IS NETWRK RELATED.

[bladeZ]

Ok, Chances are you've done most of the tweaks found on here which likely relieved some of your issues as ive done so myself like bios, rufus windows, reg edits, power plan, device manager, ram timings etc., there are many awesome ppl on here with great insight on any topic trying to help with this but if you're still chasing a consistent snappy fast gaming/mouse exp. after doing most of these tweaks i have reason to believe your issues are network related as i literally just found out mine were.

note that it is important that you can confirm you have input lag before anything as i have and will explain how i knew for certain, basically early of last year i built a simple RTX3060 12gb gpu 5600x CPU PC for someone as a gift which wasnt optimized at all you can even say the drivers were poorly installed, once i finished i decided to test some games to ensure stability so i downloaded valorant which is the game i main and let me tell you this pc felt like cheating i genuinely couldnt get enough i actually ended up not testing other games because it was so much fun, the hit reg was unmatched the mouse feel was as 1:1 as it gets, the game felt new essentially and so i went to my own pc which has an rtx3080 5900x CPU and noticed how worlds apart my pc and terrible my rig felt compared which obviously was more expensive and somewhat optimized, i couldnt believe it this is what led me to this forum trying to fix this and some of the problems were gone using the methods on this site but nothing felt like what i experienced on that PC.

now you might think this is hardware related as i did but it is NOT so save your money plz noobies ive made that mistake and its not worth it, i found this accidently just yesterday so try this to get an idea, heres what i did.

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1. (Must Do) UNPLUG ethernet cable connected to motherboard.
2. connect using wifi or hotspot.
3. test your game.
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you might be on higher ping than usual like 30-70 or lower depending on your signal but you can get a rough idea just by playing some dm's if you notice faster gameplay such as fast movement, animations are faster, mouse is faster then you have an ethernet related issue which can be due to poor cable, far away from router so youre using a long ethernet cable which i believe causes major issues, or poorly optimized ethernet settings in windows.

for some context i only discovered this because i am currently changing internet providers and needed to use my PC so i connected on hotspot and remember seeing a post asking people to do this method and i am now pushing this message further because in a few days i will find out if my long ethernet cable and distance from router was causing this inconsistent and insane lag and hopefully help others from wasting their time with this, now i will be really close to the new installed router and will be buying a new ethernet cable.

keep in mind this is the closest i ever got my PC running super snappy as the 3060 rig i gifted which WAS tested using ethernet and significantly closer to the internet router which is why i believe it ran perfect, so my theory simplified is the 3060 snappy rig was worlds better because of shorter ethernet cable, closer to router. and my personal 3080 rig ran like an absolute slug was because of lengthy ethernet cable, further distance to router. as i stated i will be finding out in a few days.

closing this post i am asking for opinions as i understand this is a known issue and know people who actually strictly switched to a wifi connection because of this, my motherboard uses Realtek Gaming 2.5GbE Family Controller which i dont think that in itself has issues.
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*my current rig*

RTX 3060 12gb

Ryzen 5800x

3600hz cl 16

2TB Samsung 980 pro

Windows 11 (rufus method)
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So what’s the overall condition right now for you? You are playing right now with wireless pcie card and applied the tweaks with mpo and hyote’s one and your are good to go for know or it came back to bad state again?

ive been playing with those exact settings for 4 days now, absolutely zero issues but i still need to test my ethernet connection since i just got my new router and havent tried it with a new shorter ethernet cable yet.

How is it going on now? Did you switch back to ethernet or you still on wifi?

UPDATE: Using the Ethernet extender with shorter Ethernet cable fixed my problem as i thought hopefully this helps others with their problem and also i found that i did not need to move my router close to my PC, the extender is good enough and the one i have is called the AV1000 tp link along with a short-medium length cat-6 cable, before i averaged 30mbps now i average 55mbps speed and even my mouse movement on the windows desktop is snappy and also in game.

[kriegsnake]

I tried all type/length of cables, moving wi-fi close/far and etc. Nothing was changing and I doubt that extender did a thing for you. Run with it for a couple of days and give a feedback.

Wi-fi hypothesis is more promising in my opinion.

[themagic]

I tried all type/length of cables, moving wi-fi close/far and etc. Nothing was changing and I doubt that extender did a thing for you. Run with it for a couple of days and give a feedback.

Wi-fi hypothesis is more promising in my opinion.

True.

I have many extenders here and cables too and a very short one 0.5 cable with good shield against magnetic and inteferences but it makes no difference at all...

But then sometimes switching to Wifi and things randomly Improve for some Match (hitreg, peekers advantage) and this the most fucked up thing where i still have no Logical explanation to such "Placebo" trigger Changes...which in Reality isnt just "Placebo" and something for sure get's triggered in such moments but it always don't last for long here and like everything becomes shit back again and then after same bad exact desync, bad hitreg, broken peekers state kicks in like if per good shielded cable before and how it was...

[kriegsnake]

I tried all type/length of cables, moving wi-fi close/far and etc. Nothing was changing and I doubt that extender did a thing for you. Run with it for a couple of days and give a feedback.

Wi-fi hypothesis is more promising in my opinion.

True.

I have many extenders here and cables too and a very short one 0.5 cable with good shield against magnetic and inteferences but it makes no difference at all...

But then sometimes switching to Wifi and things randomly Improve for some Match (hitreg, peekers advantage) and this the most fucked up thing where i still have no Logical explanation to such "Placebo" trigger Changes...which in Reality isnt just "Placebo" and something for sure get's triggered in such moments but it always don't last for long here and like everything becomes shit back again and then after same bad exact desync, bad hitreg, broken peekers state kicks in like if per good shielded cable before and how it was...

Did you try to use good quality PCIe wi-fi adapter for a long period of time?

[themagic]

I tried all type/length of cables, moving wi-fi close/far and etc. Nothing was changing and I doubt that extender did a thing for you. Run with it for a couple of days and give a feedback.

Wi-fi hypothesis is more promising in my opinion.

True.

I have many extenders here and cables too and a very short one 0.5 cable with good shield against magnetic and inteferences but it makes no difference at all...

But then sometimes switching to Wifi and things randomly Improve for some Match (hitreg, peekers advantage) and this the most fucked up thing where i still have no Logical explanation to such "Placebo" trigger Changes...which in Reality isnt just "Placebo" and something for sure get's triggered in such moments but it always don't last for long here and like everything becomes shit back again and then after same bad exact desync, bad hitreg, broken peekers state kicks in like if per good shielded cable before and how it was...

Did you try to use good quality PCIe wi-fi adapter for a long period of time?

Not good quality but I have Killer Intel Ax1650 pcie...I only buy it cause i believed that maybe the Intel® Killer™ Intelligence Engine tool from it gonna make some change and improvements but sadly don't and it's completely bullshit marketing software for the dumb like me who decide to buy this trash Wifi...

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en ... ducts.html

Edit: like as examle the Double Shot option is full shit and you can get just Connectify Dispatch and get exact same traffic load balance between your adpaters...


Dude in early days before all my problems appear I played on a "fritz wlan ac 430" usb stick which came with Router together from my Provider back then and I was happy and everything worked for long time day by day and stable and good many Match for Matches...ping was always around 30ms ping and no spikes or losses and no bullshit changes which i could notice or which could ruin me hard and make uncomfortable...


But today even with exact same good stable 30ms i feel that things are crazy unstable or just shit from the start and unplayable and full of bullshit where hitreg and everything changes on the fly sometimes and total broken rigged and feel of desync and disadvantage only against random bot kiddos Match for Matches...

And all this shit just drives me total crazy till today...

What you understand by "good quality" Wifi Pcie ? Can recommend some ?

[bladeZ]

I tried all type/length of cables, moving wi-fi close/far and etc. Nothing was changing and I doubt that extender did a thing for you. Run with it for a couple of days and give a feedback.

Wi-fi hypothesis is more promising in my opinion.

True.

I have many extenders here and cables too and a very short one 0.5 cable with good shield against magnetic and inteferences but it makes no difference at all...

But then sometimes switching to Wifi and things randomly Improve for some Match (hitreg, peekers advantage) and this the most fucked up thing where i still have no Logical explanation to such "Placebo" trigger Changes...which in Reality isnt just "Placebo" and something for sure get's triggered in such moments but it always don't last for long here and like everything becomes shit back again and then after same bad exact desync, bad hitreg, broken peekers state kicks in like if per good shielded cable before and how it was...

correction, i actually average around 55-75mbps speed from previously averaging 25-35mpbs so its definitely not placebo the stats are there to prove it, honestly i probably just had a bad ethernet cable that caused noticeable delay on my rig.

[hazzahodgson]

I can vouch for you on this LOL i just made my own post about it.
I’ve spent months fine-tuning my expensive Ethernet card like I’m defusing a bomb, registry edits, driver voodoo, praying to the latency gods — and still felt like I was aiming through syrup in slow motion. For the jokes, I plugged in a plastic WiFi stick that looks like it came from a cereal box… and suddenly my game feels like it’s being rendered by a sniper rifle powered by divine intervention. Everything’s locked in, pixel-perfect, headshots feel preordained. I’m out here getting clapped by a thumb-sized antenna with the soul of a microwave. Life is a simulation

[JimCarry]

I can vouch for you on this LOL i just made my own post about it.
I’ve spent months fine-tuning my expensive Ethernet card like I’m defusing a bomb, registry edits, driver voodoo, praying to the latency gods — and still felt like I was aiming through syrup in slow motion. For the jokes, I plugged in a plastic WiFi stick that looks like it came from a cereal box… and suddenly my game feels like it’s being rendered by a sniper rifle powered by divine intervention. Everything’s locked in, pixel-perfect, headshots feel preordained. I’m out here getting clapped by a thumb-sized antenna with the soul of a microwave. Life is a simulation

so to be clear the fix is: you must use wifi and "plastic WiFi stick that looks like it came from a cereal box" ?

[hazzahodgson]

I can vouch for you on this LOL i just made my own post about it.
I’ve spent months fine-tuning my expensive Ethernet card like I’m defusing a bomb, registry edits, driver voodoo, praying to the latency gods — and still felt like I was aiming through syrup in slow motion. For the jokes, I plugged in a plastic WiFi stick that looks like it came from a cereal box… and suddenly my game feels like it’s being rendered by a sniper rifle powered by divine intervention. Everything’s locked in, pixel-perfect, headshots feel preordained. I’m out here getting clapped by a thumb-sized antenna with the soul of a microwave. Life is a simulation

so to be clear the fix is: you must use wifi and "plastic WiFi stick that looks like it came from a cereal box" ?

I really think its to do with how network processing works. with my usb dongle, message interupts went crazy since it was polling through my usb controller. higher cpu usage less performance in game but network packets were instant. the same behaviour can be seen in Linux, and with NetAdapterCx driver on windows, which uses polling also. check if your nic has a netadaptercx driver, its a windows 11 exclusive. it affects mouse feel tho beacuse of system choke from the polling. its like a massive vicious cycle. make 1 thing perfect the next goes shit, cant have evrything perfect. we need a seperate dedicated cpu for processing dpc/polling/interupts imo

[JimCarry]

I can vouch for you on this LOL i just made my own post about it.
I’ve spent months fine-tuning my expensive Ethernet card like I’m defusing a bomb, registry edits, driver voodoo, praying to the latency gods — and still felt like I was aiming through syrup in slow motion. For the jokes, I plugged in a plastic WiFi stick that looks like it came from a cereal box… and suddenly my game feels like it’s being rendered by a sniper rifle powered by divine intervention. Everything’s locked in, pixel-perfect, headshots feel preordained. I’m out here getting clapped by a thumb-sized antenna with the soul of a microwave. Life is a simulation

so to be clear the fix is: you must use wifi and "plastic WiFi stick that looks like it came from a cereal box" ?

I really think its to do with how network processing works. with my usb dongle, message interupts went crazy since it was polling through my usb controller. higher cpu usage less performance in game but network packets were instant. the same behaviour can be seen in Linux, and with NetAdapterCx driver on windows, which uses polling also. check if your nic has a netadaptercx driver, its a windows 11 exclusive. it affects mouse feel tho beacuse of system choke from the polling. its like a massive vicious cycle. make 1 thing perfect the next goes shit, cant have evrything perfect. we need a seperate dedicated cpu for processing dpc/polling/interupts imo

thanks for sharing / explain.i am on win 10 but what do you mean by "message interupts went crazy" ,also i wanto to ask can you give me link for the one you buy,and do you touch any settings on it,also cmd default ?