Re: New 1080p 240hz IPS monitors. LG 27gn750, MSI MAG251rx, Asus TUF vg279qm/vg259qm.
Posted: 06 Apr 2020, 09:45
I will include details on a new topic but here is the gist of it
FASTEST on their optimal settings(the setting I recommend when you play video games) Which means no severe overshoots and yes, I will allow smearing if the trade off is better motion clarity and MPRT). MPRT is very important and in my opinion more important than actual response time. The whole purpose of a better response time is to limit motion blur, so in a practical sense, THESE are the fastest IPS monitors right now.
#1. Asus TUF VG279qm, 280hz refresh rate+ELMB-SYNC ON.(also, ADD in +40hz adds better motion clarity+backlight strobing+100 brightness on "RPG" viewing setting, it's faster on a practical sense than the MAG251rx)
#2. MSI MAG271RX (240hz on its "faster" overdrive setting)
#3 Viewsonic XG270 (240hz "pureXP" (BLB strobing) on)
#4 Dell Alienware AW2720HF (240hz on FAST setting)
#5 LG 27gn750 (240hz on "fast") EDIT(not even gonna dignify using this, i just put it on here bcuz i tested it, the gap between the dell alienware vs the 27gn750 is HUGE)
Fastest G2G average(response time) TWO different oscolliscopes, one budget, one in tthe $350 range from amazon). Lagom and blurbusters to cross reference the results.
1. MSI MAG271RX (3.1 ms g2g at 240hz on its "faster" setting). (Target_return)
2. VG279qm (3.7ms g2g average on 240hz on its 80 overdrive setting. ) 4.1ms on 280hz on its 80 overdrive setting)
3. Dell Alienware AW2720HF (4.1ms g2g average on "faster" at 240hz)
4. Viewsonic XG270 (4.3ms g2g average at 240hz)
5. LG Ultragear 27gn850 (5.1 ms g2g average at 240hz on "fast" overdrive)
the two AHVA panels are clearly faster than the first generation panels. They use the same panel but the overdrive implementation on the MAG is better since it only has 3 overdrives and only "faster" is compatible because the other two overdrives are too slow for the 240hz. The VG279qm i got 3.7ms on its average g2g. at 80,it's still fast and the difference between the MAG vs the asus tuf is not noticeable, even their overshoots are not noticeable.
Unfortunately for the LG 27gn750 belongs in the bargain bin. it's probably the slowest 240hz ips panel. Not to mention its barebones compatibility(no backlight strobing, no wide gamut). And no, it's not a "nano" panel, they are just using that as a way to ride the coattails of its more succuessful and FASTER(yes, no joke) than the 27gl850-b
Still surprised that the AW did better than the xg270 sincce they use the same panel from AO optronics. The AW however had more overshoot. I'm seeing blue tint coming out of the rocket league ball quite often from the alienware. Not on the XG270 though.
THE AW2521hf recently came out but it's using the same panel as its 27" precedecessor so it shouldn't be any different from the 1st generation panels. I never got to test out the Acer Nitro XV272U but it should be siimlar to the xg270 and the alienware since those 1st generation IPS uses thees ame AU optronics model.
Lastly, the MSI MAg251rx absolutely shattered the competition, and it's NOT EVEN CLOSE(unless the TUF VG279qm uses 280hz only if ELMB SYNC IS ON). . I had an omen x 27(before returning it due to a dead pixel) and it's faster than the omen x 27 and the omen x27 is one of the fastest monitors right now.
HOWEVER, THE added motion clarity with +40hzrefresh rate from the Asus, ELMB-SYNC ON, the VG279qm is faster due to less motion blur and more sharpness from moving objects. g2g average isn't the end all be all. Motion clarity, less motion blur, and a PERFECT 80 overdrive match from ELMB sync makes practical USE of the 280z faster. I owned the xg270(and returned will reorder) and i did a side by side, the VG279qm at 280hz vs 240hz, it's very obvious that the VG279qm is faster when MOVING fast. Keep in mind, ELMB sync has to be on, if its not on, then be prepared to see a lot of smearing bcuz this monitor is not fast enough to keep up with the 280hz refresh rate.
Still, i'm 100% sure these IPS monitors cannot compete with the Variable overdrive G sync TOP TN monitors. But at these ridiculous response times, i'm surprised ppl are able to distinguish these differences.
There will still be a lot of 240hz ips monitors coming out. (predator series especially, and don't forget the 240hz 1440p IPS panel coming in Q4, not to mention the lenovo odyssee)
FASTEST on their optimal settings(the setting I recommend when you play video games) Which means no severe overshoots and yes, I will allow smearing if the trade off is better motion clarity and MPRT). MPRT is very important and in my opinion more important than actual response time. The whole purpose of a better response time is to limit motion blur, so in a practical sense, THESE are the fastest IPS monitors right now.
#1. Asus TUF VG279qm, 280hz refresh rate+ELMB-SYNC ON.(also, ADD in +40hz adds better motion clarity+backlight strobing+100 brightness on "RPG" viewing setting, it's faster on a practical sense than the MAG251rx)
#2. MSI MAG271RX (240hz on its "faster" overdrive setting)
#3 Viewsonic XG270 (240hz "pureXP" (BLB strobing) on)
#4 Dell Alienware AW2720HF (240hz on FAST setting)
#5 LG 27gn750 (240hz on "fast") EDIT(not even gonna dignify using this, i just put it on here bcuz i tested it, the gap between the dell alienware vs the 27gn750 is HUGE)
Fastest G2G average(response time) TWO different oscolliscopes, one budget, one in tthe $350 range from amazon). Lagom and blurbusters to cross reference the results.
1. MSI MAG271RX (3.1 ms g2g at 240hz on its "faster" setting). (Target_return)
2. VG279qm (3.7ms g2g average on 240hz on its 80 overdrive setting. ) 4.1ms on 280hz on its 80 overdrive setting)
3. Dell Alienware AW2720HF (4.1ms g2g average on "faster" at 240hz)
4. Viewsonic XG270 (4.3ms g2g average at 240hz)
5. LG Ultragear 27gn850 (5.1 ms g2g average at 240hz on "fast" overdrive)
the two AHVA panels are clearly faster than the first generation panels. They use the same panel but the overdrive implementation on the MAG is better since it only has 3 overdrives and only "faster" is compatible because the other two overdrives are too slow for the 240hz. The VG279qm i got 3.7ms on its average g2g. at 80,it's still fast and the difference between the MAG vs the asus tuf is not noticeable, even their overshoots are not noticeable.
Unfortunately for the LG 27gn750 belongs in the bargain bin. it's probably the slowest 240hz ips panel. Not to mention its barebones compatibility(no backlight strobing, no wide gamut). And no, it's not a "nano" panel, they are just using that as a way to ride the coattails of its more succuessful and FASTER(yes, no joke) than the 27gl850-b
Still surprised that the AW did better than the xg270 sincce they use the same panel from AO optronics. The AW however had more overshoot. I'm seeing blue tint coming out of the rocket league ball quite often from the alienware. Not on the XG270 though.
THE AW2521hf recently came out but it's using the same panel as its 27" precedecessor so it shouldn't be any different from the 1st generation panels. I never got to test out the Acer Nitro XV272U but it should be siimlar to the xg270 and the alienware since those 1st generation IPS uses thees ame AU optronics model.
Lastly, the MSI MAg251rx absolutely shattered the competition, and it's NOT EVEN CLOSE(unless the TUF VG279qm uses 280hz only if ELMB SYNC IS ON). . I had an omen x 27(before returning it due to a dead pixel) and it's faster than the omen x 27 and the omen x27 is one of the fastest monitors right now.
HOWEVER, THE added motion clarity with +40hzrefresh rate from the Asus, ELMB-SYNC ON, the VG279qm is faster due to less motion blur and more sharpness from moving objects. g2g average isn't the end all be all. Motion clarity, less motion blur, and a PERFECT 80 overdrive match from ELMB sync makes practical USE of the 280z faster. I owned the xg270(and returned will reorder) and i did a side by side, the VG279qm at 280hz vs 240hz, it's very obvious that the VG279qm is faster when MOVING fast. Keep in mind, ELMB sync has to be on, if its not on, then be prepared to see a lot of smearing bcuz this monitor is not fast enough to keep up with the 280hz refresh rate.
Still, i'm 100% sure these IPS monitors cannot compete with the Variable overdrive G sync TOP TN monitors. But at these ridiculous response times, i'm surprised ppl are able to distinguish these differences.
There will still be a lot of 240hz ips monitors coming out. (predator series especially, and don't forget the 240hz 1440p IPS panel coming in Q4, not to mention the lenovo odyssee)
