This Is How I Fixed*(asterik!) My Own Input Lag [Update #3]

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Hyote
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Re: This Is How I Fixing* My Input Lag [Update #2]

Post by Hyote » 22 Jun 2024, 18:27

JimCarry wrote:
22 Jun 2024, 18:06
amd fix please ?
Or use custom drivers from amernimezone which I haven't tested yet.

agendarsky
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Re: This Is How I Fixing* My Input Lag [Update #2]

Post by agendarsky » 22 Jun 2024, 18:35

cs 1.6 windows 10 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81KtuhagTKk its insane... works on windows 10 also !
cs 2 windows 10 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aQp6m2xH-w
it also performs even better than windows 11 lmao.

JimCarry
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Re: This Is How I Fixing* My Input Lag [Update #2]

Post by JimCarry » 22 Jun 2024, 21:32

Hyote wrote:
22 Jun 2024, 18:27
JimCarry wrote:
22 Jun 2024, 18:06
amd fix please ?
download Radeon Software Slimmer
extract a freshly downloaded AMD driver

Packages (they all start with AMD): Display Driver, HDMI Audio Driver, High Definition Audio Controller, Settings

Scheduled Tasks: none

Display Driver Components: High Definition Audio Bus, AMD-OpenCL User Mode Driver, AMD PCI Bridge Device Extension, AMD Windows Support Components

Modify installer and install as minimal or driver.
Disable hd audio controller, crash defender and generic software component in device manager.
Disable the 2 entries in services and Noise Suppression in startup.
Rename every atieclxx.exe to old with NSudo or something else that gives you permission.
Disable HDCP support in the AMD control panel.

Use GPU-Z to dump your VBIOS and load it in MorePowerTool. Follow the settings on calypto.us.
Undervolt and OC your card in MoreClockTool or Afterburner. Uncheck Zero-RPM Enabled.
Use either RadeonDXConfigurator or look up the registry keys to change DX9 and DX11 from DXNavi to regular.
Check my github for the AMD regedit tweaks, it is in tweakcollection.txt.
github.com/Hyyote


Rename every atieclxx.exe to old with NSudo or something else that gives you permission.

where is this file this is the first time i hear about it ?


Use GPU-Z to dump your VBIOS and load it in MorePowerTool. Follow the settings on calypto.us.

rx 580 dont work

Undervolt and OC your card in MoreClockTool or Afterburner. Uncheck Zero-RPM Enabled.
rx 580 dont work

Check my github for the AMD regedit tweaks, it is in tweakcollection.txt.
github.com/Hyyote

I dont want to be rude but this is copy pasted shit without 0 explain on single dword.


Use either RadeonDXConfigurator or look up the registry keys to change DX9 and DX11 from DXNavi to regular.
this shit is copy paste from calypto guide and of course,and its for specific model of cards, if you ever read the guide you will see it.

rx 580 dont work

Hyote
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Re: This Is How I Fixing* My Input Lag [Update #2]

Post by Hyote » 23 Jun 2024, 01:17

JimCarry wrote:
22 Jun 2024, 21:32
Hyote wrote:
22 Jun 2024, 18:27
JimCarry wrote:
22 Jun 2024, 18:06
amd fix please ?
download Radeon Software Slimmer
extract a freshly downloaded AMD driver

Packages (they all start with AMD): Display Driver, HDMI Audio Driver, High Definition Audio Controller, Settings

Scheduled Tasks: none

Display Driver Components: High Definition Audio Bus, AMD-OpenCL User Mode Driver, AMD PCI Bridge Device Extension, AMD Windows Support Components

Modify installer and install as minimal or driver.
Disable hd audio controller, crash defender and generic software component in device manager.
Disable the 2 entries in services and Noise Suppression in startup.
Rename every atieclxx.exe to old with NSudo or something else that gives you permission.
Disable HDCP support in the AMD control panel.

Use GPU-Z to dump your VBIOS and load it in MorePowerTool. Follow the settings on calypto.us.
Undervolt and OC your card in MoreClockTool or Afterburner. Uncheck Zero-RPM Enabled.
Use either RadeonDXConfigurator or look up the registry keys to change DX9 and DX11 from DXNavi to regular.
Check my github for the AMD regedit tweaks, it is in tweakcollection.txt.
github.com/Hyyote


Rename every atieclxx.exe to old with NSudo or something else that gives you permission.

where is this file this is the first time i hear about it ?


Use GPU-Z to dump your VBIOS and load it in MorePowerTool. Follow the settings on calypto.us.

rx 580 dont work

Undervolt and OC your card in MoreClockTool or Afterburner. Uncheck Zero-RPM Enabled.
rx 580 dont work

Check my github for the AMD regedit tweaks, it is in tweakcollection.txt.
github.com/Hyyote

I dont want to be rude but this is copy pasted shit without 0 explain on single dword.


Use either RadeonDXConfigurator or look up the registry keys to change DX9 and DX11 from DXNavi to regular.
this shit is copy paste from calypto guide and of course,and its for specific model of cards, if you ever read the guide you will see it.

rx 580 dont work
You and Slender can't bring together a basic English sentence as a duo so I think I'm done even trying to help. Sorry for not explaining a few hundred lines of registry in a single comment, I will try to improve myself.

bleya99
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Re: This Is How I Fixed My Input Lag [Update #2]

Post by bleya99 » 23 Jun 2024, 05:06

agendarsky wrote:
22 Jun 2024, 10:28
This problem simply doesnt exist on agp cards, i've just tried two old pc's that my friend's that still have, both of them have agp cards with windows 7 a i've tested 1.6 and q3 and its simply not broken. Forget about mouse input lag, the game speed and hit registry was just insane for such a old computers, which just proove my point that this problem is rooted in pci-express and how resources are allocated and manipulated, agp was deticated slot for gpu and didnt share bandwith any other peripherals . Nvidia drivers are finally opensource now and there are some interesting finding, i dont want to promise anything i just simply want you to give it a try, unfornutanely only for nvidia users :

Computer\HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Class\{4d36e968-e325-11ce-bfc1-08002be10318}\0000

All values are case sensitive


RmFbsrPagedDMA 1- hex
RmForceDisableIomapWC - 1hex <--- disable write combining, this settings made my os wont boot if x2apic is enabled in bios
UseGpuTimer -1 hex
RMOPSB - 2aa2 hex <-- another power saving
RmPowerFeature 40 hex - changing clock gating, not sure about correct value , watch savitara'x latest video about nvidia hidden settings

but theese are most impactfull for me:

RmCeUseGen4Mapping - 1 hex
or
UseUncachedPCIMappings - 1hex

source:
https://github.com/NVIDIA/open-gpu-kern ... registry.h

https://github.com/NVIDIA/open-gpu-kern ... nvoc.h#L45

https://github.com/NVIDIA/open-gpu-kern ... nvoc.h#L45

https://github.com/djdallmann/GamingPCS ... 8.txt#L233

Also i want to say that i've been experiencing this problem since 2011 , at that time i had pentium 4 , intel desktop board (d875pbz) and old agp gt 7600 gs i guess it was 512 mb version and i was literally playing only half-life and cs , not interested in any other games, that setup was enough for 5v5 but had some serious fps drops when enemies was pushing with smokes and also ventrilo took some resources so i wanted to do little oc which resulted in bricked motherboard :lol: and because i didnt had money to new setup from scratch i kept my cpu , psu and case and bought some asrock motherboard that was still using pentium 4 socket but i also had to upgrade to ddr2 and pci-e gpu and it was gt440 1gb, games was never same since that time. Maybe this is just another time me being delusional but iam conviced this problem is rooted in pci-express resources allocation.
Heya, I'm glad these worked for you and you solved your long year issue!

I tried these tweaks for a couple of games, and my HS Rate in CS GO dropped from usual 85% to around 70%. The "feel" was just not instantenous like on my previous tweaked system, rather it felt a bit "smoothed out". Do note that I am using g sync v sync 138 fps on 144hz, I saw lines

AllowUnspecifiedHSync - 1hex
AllowUnspecifiedVSync - 1hex

Which I combined from FoulPlay, aswell as other lines in this post.

Did a system restore, went back to DM, my HS rate jumped back to 92%.

Maybe I need to do longer tests, these are just short thoughts.

Riggedinho
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Re: This Is How I Fixing* My Input Lag [Update #2]

Post by Riggedinho » 23 Jun 2024, 11:16

Aren't you fed up with your wizard charms? :lol: :lol: :lol:

Brutek_Vladimir
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Re: This Is How I Fixing* My Input Lag [Update #2]

Post by Brutek_Vladimir » 23 Jun 2024, 14:58

Now?
Both of you will get banned.
One for language and 2nd for wall of regedit "tweaks".

Hyote
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Re: This Is How I Fixing* My Input Lag [Update #2]

Post by Hyote » 23 Jun 2024, 15:15

Brutek_Vladimir wrote:
23 Jun 2024, 14:58
Now?
Both of you will get banned.
One for language and 2nd for wall of regedit "tweaks".
I have a whole entire post about regedit tweaks but I guess you know better. I'm trying to share my findings and my own settings but obviously I'm doing it to blow up your PC. Claiming something is useless without having any knowledge about it also makes you a genius.

Brutek_Vladimir
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Re: This Is How I Fixing* My Input Lag [Update #2]

Post by Brutek_Vladimir » 23 Jun 2024, 15:35

Hyote wrote:
23 Jun 2024, 15:15
Brutek_Vladimir wrote:
23 Jun 2024, 14:58
Now?
Both of you will get banned.
One for language and 2nd for wall of regedit "tweaks".
I have a whole entire post about regedit tweaks but I guess you know better. I'm trying to share my findings and my own settings but obviously I'm doing it to blow up your PC. Claiming something is useless without having any knowledge about it also makes you a genius.
You guessed it right.
Naw mate. You cant blow up my PC. Im not the one genius trying to "fix" MS engineers work.

JimCarry
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Location: csgo

Re: This Is How I Fixing* My Input Lag [Update #2]

Post by JimCarry » 23 Jun 2024, 16:19

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you old [BLEEP],in your txt file the are 116 lines with "amd tweaks",i have every single one of them.there is nothing new all of this are just basic settings.go [BLEEP] yourself [BLEEP]

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