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Re: Does CTA-861 triple buffer frames?

Posted: 06 Mar 2025, 18:07
by Hyote
The thing is, I use a custom pointer curve and it doesn't get disabled by any of these settings, including MouseAccel and RawInput in HCKU/Control Panel/Mouse.
It's good that I can keep my accel on but unfortunately this most likely shows the ineffectiveness of the reg keys.

Re: Does CTA-861 triple buffer frames?

Posted: 06 Mar 2025, 19:01
by JimCarry
Hyote wrote:
06 Mar 2025, 18:07
The thing is, I use a custom pointer curve and it doesn't get disabled by any of these settings, including MouseAccel and RawInput in HCKU/Control Panel/Mouse.
It's good that I can keep my accel on but unfortunately this most likely shows the ineffectiveness of the reg keys.
so op post placebe except for cru ?

Re: Does CTA-861 triple buffer frames?

Posted: 06 Mar 2025, 19:22
by Hyote
JimCarry wrote:
06 Mar 2025, 19:01
Hyote wrote:
06 Mar 2025, 18:07
The thing is, I use a custom pointer curve and it doesn't get disabled by any of these settings, including MouseAccel and RawInput in HCKU/Control Panel/Mouse.
It's good that I can keep my accel on but unfortunately this most likely shows the ineffectiveness of the reg keys.
so op post placebe except for cru ?
I don't know but I'll keep adding game exe files into regedit like that because there haven't been any negative effects so far.

Re: Does CTA-861 triple buffer frames?

Posted: 06 Mar 2025, 20:14
by Mighty
Hyote wrote:
06 Mar 2025, 18:07
The thing is, I use a custom pointer curve and it doesn't get disabled by any of these settings, including MouseAccel and RawInput in HCKU/Control Panel/Mouse.
It's good that I can keep my accel on but unfortunately this most likely shows the ineffectiveness of the reg keys.
I use Raw Accel aswell on purpose! it doesn't get disabled because it is a mousefilter most likely that is directly integraded in the driver you can look that up by going to your device managers mouse and under driver details you will see there is rawaccel or custom curve in the drivers directory... :!:

Re: Does CTA-861 triple buffer frames?

Posted: 06 Mar 2025, 20:17
by Mighty
Brutek_Vladimir wrote:
06 Mar 2025, 16:07
Mighty wrote:
02 Mar 2025, 12:25
probably allot of you who searched for floaty mouse fixes heard of the Windows 8 Tweak with in the Appcompat/layers Folder in Regedit... well the thing is most users use this tweak in the wrong way because its told commonly to put the path to exe file of your application as name of the REG SZ key but you dont simply type in NoDTToDITMouseBatch because it doesnt' work this way in Windows 10 and 11. If you want to apply you have to type NoDTToDITMouseBatch=1 for it to work.

Fun Fact. If you make a REG MULTI SZ there you can apply multiple tweaks for any games you want to make Mouse Movement insanely responsive and HITREG soo good i'll leave them here as i know a lot of you guys just like me are going insane about this topic.

this is the list of tweaks i use in CS2 for example:

NoDTToDITMouseBatch=1
NtTNoBatch=1
NTTThreshold=0
DisableProcessWindowsMouseAcceleration=1
NoGDIHWAcceleration=1
NoAsyncInput=1
DisableMouseAcceleration=1
DisableFullscreenOptimizations=1
NoLowLevelHooks=1
NoBufferedInput=1
DisableDpiScaling=1
MouseNoSpeedScaling=1
NoAsyncRender=1
ForceThreadedInput=0
NoHyperThreadingInput=1
DisableInputPrediction=1
DisableVSync=1
DisableGameDVR=1
DisableMouseSmoothing=1
NoInputLagCompensation=0
NoSwapChainOverride=1
NoBatch=1
FixRelativeMouseMovement=1
NoLegacyMouse=0
NoForegroundLockTimeout=1
NoTimerResolutionOverride=1
DisableSystemTimers=1
DisableBackgroundTaskOptimization=1
DisableMulticoreScaling=1
NoTiledRendering=1
NoFlipQueue=1
NoSpeedScaling=1
DisableRawInputBuffer=1
EnableDirectInput=0

EnableLegacyMouseMode=0

EnablePS2RateOverride=0
ForceHighPollingRate=1

ForceUSBHIDMode=1

ForceRawInput=1
I dont think you can provide sources or links for these "tweaks".
But shot, surprise me :)
sadly they are not really documented by microsoft or any other forum thats why it took me so long to find them

Re: Does CTA-861 triple buffer frames?

Posted: 06 Mar 2025, 23:01
by Mighty
Heres a Quick Video how cs2 looks on my setup now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSC-YYYjL5Y

LAYERS COMMANDS USED IN THE VIDEO (could be possible that some are twice i am in a hurry :roll: :lol:

NoDTToDITMouseBatch=1
NtTNoBatch=1
NTTThreshold=0
DisableProcessWindowsMouseAcceleration=1
NoGDIHWAcceleration=1
NoAsyncInput=1
DisableMouseAcceleration=1
DisableFullscreenOptimizations=1
NoLowLevelHooks
NoBufferedInput
DisableDpiScaling
MouseNoSpeedScaling=1
DisableHIDInputBuffer=1
NoUSBQueueing=1
NoKernelMouseProcessing=1
ForceDirectMouseDriverExecution=1
NoAsyncRender
ForceThreadedInput=0
NoHyperThreadingInput=1
DisableInputPrediction=0
DisableVSync=1
DisableGameDVR=1
DisableMouseSmoothing=1
NoInputLagCompensation=0
NoSwapChainOverride=1
NoBatch=1
FixRelativeMouseMovement=1
NoLegacyMouse=0
NoForegroundLockTimeout=1
NoTimerResolutionOverride=0
DisableSystemTimers=0
DisableBackgroundTaskOptimization=1
DisableMulticoreScaling=0
NoTiledRendering=1
NoFlipQueue=1
NoSpeedScaling=1
DisableRawInputBuffer=1
EnableDirectInput=0

EnableLegacyMouseMode=0

EnablePS2RateOverride=0
ForceHighPollingRate=1

ForceUSBHIDMode=1

ForceRawInput=1
NoMouseRateOverride=1
NoUSBSelectiveSuspend=1
DisableHIDPowerSave=1

DisableUSBBuffering=1
DisableInputProcessingQueue=1
DisableDynamicTick=1
NoSMT=1
DisableKernelPaging=1
ForceHPET=1
NoWDDMOverlay=1
DisablePrefetch=1
NoNagleAlgorithm=1
DisableReceiveWindowAutoTuning=1
NoQoSReservableBandwidth=1
NoAutoDNS=1
NoUSBInterruptModeration=1
NoMouseProcessing=1
NoBackgroundMousePriority=1
DisableMouseAccelerationKernel=1
DisableHIDPollingRateLimit=1
NoCPULoadBalancing=1
ForceMaxPerformance=1
NoDynamicCoreScaling=1
DisableEnergySavingCStates=1
ForceNoKernelPaging=1
DisableAllDesktopComposition=1
NoFrameBufferQueue=1
DisableVRR=1
NoDeferredRendering=1
NoWindowsPacketScheduling=1
DisableNagleV2=1
NoBackgroundNetworkTasks=1
DisableWiFiPowerSaving=1
NoAutoTCPBufferScaling=1
DisableUACVirtualization=1
NoKernelModeDrivers=1
DisableExplorerProcessGrouping=1
DisableWindowsErrorReporting=1
DisableSuperfetch=1
DisableHIDIdleTimeout=1
ForceUSBHighPriority=1
NoExtraMouseProcessing=1
DisableHIDPollingJitter=1
DisableKernelMemoryPaging=1
NoCStateTransitions=1
DisableIRQSharing=1
DisableMemoryZeroing=1
NoDXGIFrameQueue=1
DisableDWMScaling=1
DisablePresentBuffering=1
NoPacketCoalescing=1
DisableTCPReassembly=1
NoWiFiRoaming=1
DisableTelemetryAndTracking=1
NoWindowsEventLogging=1
DisablePowerThrottling=1
EnableSubPixelProcessing=1
ForceRawInputPrecision=1
NoCursorSmoothing=1
DisablePointerRounding=1
DisableUSBPollingJitter=1
NoHIDInputDelay=1
ForceFixedPollingRate=1
NoUSBInterruptDelays=1
NoForcedMouseSmoothing=1
DisableUSBNoiseFiltering=1
ForceHighPrecisionMouseTimers=1
DisableHIDInputBuffer=1
NoUSBQueueing=1
NoKernelMouseProcessing=1
ForceDirectMouseDriverExecution=1

Re: Does CTA-861 triple buffer frames?

Posted: 07 Mar 2025, 05:04
by Hyote
Mighty wrote:
06 Mar 2025, 20:14
Hyote wrote:
06 Mar 2025, 18:07
The thing is, I use a custom pointer curve and it doesn't get disabled by any of these settings, including MouseAccel and RawInput in HCKU/Control Panel/Mouse.
It's good that I can keep my accel on but unfortunately this most likely shows the ineffectiveness of the reg keys.
I use Raw Accel aswell on purpose! it doesn't get disabled because it is a mousefilter most likely that is directly integraded in the driver you can look that up by going to your device managers mouse and under driver details you will see there is rawaccel or custom curve in the drivers directory... :!:
I'm using the values for Enhanced Pointer Precision, just slightly modified.
MouseSpeed 1
MouseThreshold1 6.7
MouseThreshold2 10
Only games with raw input override them.

Re: Does CTA-861 triple buffer frames?

Posted: 07 Mar 2025, 07:20
by mojosan
Mighty wrote:
06 Mar 2025, 23:01
Heres a Quick Video how cs2 looks on my setup now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSC-YYYjL5Y

LAYERS COMMANDS USED IN THE VIDEO (could be possible that some are twice i am in a hurry :roll: :lol:

NoDTToDITMouseBatch=1
NtTNoBatch=1
NTTThreshold=0
DisableProcessWindowsMouseAcceleration=1
NoGDIHWAcceleration=1
NoAsyncInput=1
DisableMouseAcceleration=1
DisableFullscreenOptimizations=1
NoLowLevelHooks
NoBufferedInput
DisableDpiScaling
MouseNoSpeedScaling=1
DisableHIDInputBuffer=1
NoUSBQueueing=1
NoKernelMouseProcessing=1
ForceDirectMouseDriverExecution=1
NoAsyncRender
ForceThreadedInput=0
NoHyperThreadingInput=1
DisableInputPrediction=0
DisableVSync=1
DisableGameDVR=1
DisableMouseSmoothing=1
NoInputLagCompensation=0
NoSwapChainOverride=1
NoBatch=1
FixRelativeMouseMovement=1
NoLegacyMouse=0
NoForegroundLockTimeout=1
NoTimerResolutionOverride=0
DisableSystemTimers=0
DisableBackgroundTaskOptimization=1
DisableMulticoreScaling=0
NoTiledRendering=1
NoFlipQueue=1
NoSpeedScaling=1
DisableRawInputBuffer=1
EnableDirectInput=0

EnableLegacyMouseMode=0

EnablePS2RateOverride=0
ForceHighPollingRate=1

ForceUSBHIDMode=1

ForceRawInput=1
NoMouseRateOverride=1
NoUSBSelectiveSuspend=1
DisableHIDPowerSave=1

DisableUSBBuffering=1
DisableInputProcessingQueue=1
DisableDynamicTick=1
NoSMT=1
DisableKernelPaging=1
ForceHPET=1
NoWDDMOverlay=1
DisablePrefetch=1
NoNagleAlgorithm=1
DisableReceiveWindowAutoTuning=1
NoQoSReservableBandwidth=1
NoAutoDNS=1
NoUSBInterruptModeration=1
NoMouseProcessing=1
NoBackgroundMousePriority=1
DisableMouseAccelerationKernel=1
DisableHIDPollingRateLimit=1
NoCPULoadBalancing=1
ForceMaxPerformance=1
NoDynamicCoreScaling=1
DisableEnergySavingCStates=1
ForceNoKernelPaging=1
DisableAllDesktopComposition=1
NoFrameBufferQueue=1
DisableVRR=1
NoDeferredRendering=1
NoWindowsPacketScheduling=1
DisableNagleV2=1
NoBackgroundNetworkTasks=1
DisableWiFiPowerSaving=1
NoAutoTCPBufferScaling=1
DisableUACVirtualization=1
NoKernelModeDrivers=1
DisableExplorerProcessGrouping=1
DisableWindowsErrorReporting=1
DisableSuperfetch=1
DisableHIDIdleTimeout=1
ForceUSBHighPriority=1
NoExtraMouseProcessing=1
DisableHIDPollingJitter=1
DisableKernelMemoryPaging=1
NoCStateTransitions=1
DisableIRQSharing=1
DisableMemoryZeroing=1
NoDXGIFrameQueue=1
DisableDWMScaling=1
DisablePresentBuffering=1
NoPacketCoalescing=1
DisableTCPReassembly=1
NoWiFiRoaming=1
DisableTelemetryAndTracking=1
NoWindowsEventLogging=1
DisablePowerThrottling=1
EnableSubPixelProcessing=1
ForceRawInputPrecision=1
NoCursorSmoothing=1
DisablePointerRounding=1
DisableUSBPollingJitter=1
NoHIDInputDelay=1
ForceFixedPollingRate=1
NoUSBInterruptDelays=1
NoForcedMouseSmoothing=1
DisableUSBNoiseFiltering=1
ForceHighPrecisionMouseTimers=1
DisableHIDInputBuffer=1
NoUSBQueueing=1
NoKernelMouseProcessing=1
ForceDirectMouseDriverExecution=1
Not trying to be rude - but that just might be the single most pointless thing ive ever watched

Re: Does CTA-861 triple buffer frames?

Posted: 07 Mar 2025, 10:29
by JimCarry
mojosan wrote:
07 Mar 2025, 07:20
Mighty wrote:
06 Mar 2025, 23:01
Heres a Quick Video how cs2 looks on my setup now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSC-YYYjL5Y

LAYERS COMMANDS USED IN THE VIDEO (could be possible that some are twice i am in a hurry :roll: :lol:

NoDTToDITMouseBatch=1
NtTNoBatch=1
NTTThreshold=0
DisableProcessWindowsMouseAcceleration=1
NoGDIHWAcceleration=1
NoAsyncInput=1
DisableMouseAcceleration=1
DisableFullscreenOptimizations=1
NoLowLevelHooks
NoBufferedInput
DisableDpiScaling
MouseNoSpeedScaling=1
DisableHIDInputBuffer=1
NoUSBQueueing=1
NoKernelMouseProcessing=1
ForceDirectMouseDriverExecution=1
NoAsyncRender
ForceThreadedInput=0
NoHyperThreadingInput=1
DisableInputPrediction=0
DisableVSync=1
DisableGameDVR=1
DisableMouseSmoothing=1
NoInputLagCompensation=0
NoSwapChainOverride=1
NoBatch=1
FixRelativeMouseMovement=1
NoLegacyMouse=0
NoForegroundLockTimeout=1
NoTimerResolutionOverride=0
DisableSystemTimers=0
DisableBackgroundTaskOptimization=1
DisableMulticoreScaling=0
NoTiledRendering=1
NoFlipQueue=1
NoSpeedScaling=1
DisableRawInputBuffer=1
EnableDirectInput=0

EnableLegacyMouseMode=0

EnablePS2RateOverride=0
ForceHighPollingRate=1

ForceUSBHIDMode=1

ForceRawInput=1
NoMouseRateOverride=1
NoUSBSelectiveSuspend=1
DisableHIDPowerSave=1

DisableUSBBuffering=1
DisableInputProcessingQueue=1
DisableDynamicTick=1
NoSMT=1
DisableKernelPaging=1
ForceHPET=1
NoWDDMOverlay=1
DisablePrefetch=1
NoNagleAlgorithm=1
DisableReceiveWindowAutoTuning=1
NoQoSReservableBandwidth=1
NoAutoDNS=1
NoUSBInterruptModeration=1
NoMouseProcessing=1
NoBackgroundMousePriority=1
DisableMouseAccelerationKernel=1
DisableHIDPollingRateLimit=1
NoCPULoadBalancing=1
ForceMaxPerformance=1
NoDynamicCoreScaling=1
DisableEnergySavingCStates=1
ForceNoKernelPaging=1
DisableAllDesktopComposition=1
NoFrameBufferQueue=1
DisableVRR=1
NoDeferredRendering=1
NoWindowsPacketScheduling=1
DisableNagleV2=1
NoBackgroundNetworkTasks=1
DisableWiFiPowerSaving=1
NoAutoTCPBufferScaling=1
DisableUACVirtualization=1
NoKernelModeDrivers=1
DisableExplorerProcessGrouping=1
DisableWindowsErrorReporting=1
DisableSuperfetch=1
DisableHIDIdleTimeout=1
ForceUSBHighPriority=1
NoExtraMouseProcessing=1
DisableHIDPollingJitter=1
DisableKernelMemoryPaging=1
NoCStateTransitions=1
DisableIRQSharing=1
DisableMemoryZeroing=1
NoDXGIFrameQueue=1
DisableDWMScaling=1
DisablePresentBuffering=1
NoPacketCoalescing=1
DisableTCPReassembly=1
NoWiFiRoaming=1
DisableTelemetryAndTracking=1
NoWindowsEventLogging=1
DisablePowerThrottling=1
EnableSubPixelProcessing=1
ForceRawInputPrecision=1
NoCursorSmoothing=1
DisablePointerRounding=1
DisableUSBPollingJitter=1
NoHIDInputDelay=1
ForceFixedPollingRate=1
NoUSBInterruptDelays=1
NoForcedMouseSmoothing=1
DisableUSBNoiseFiltering=1
ForceHighPrecisionMouseTimers=1
DisableHIDInputBuffer=1
NoUSBQueueing=1
NoKernelMouseProcessing=1
ForceDirectMouseDriverExecution=1
Not trying to be rude - but that just might be the single most pointless thing ive ever watched
i am also deleting the reg key,untill someone does benchmarks before and after,and some source for the tweaks.

Re: Does CTA-861 triple buffer frames?

Posted: 11 Mar 2025, 23:26
by Mr1991
Mighty wrote:
06 Mar 2025, 23:01
Heres a Quick Video how cs2 looks on my setup now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSC-YYYjL5Y

LAYERS COMMANDS USED IN THE VIDEO (could be possible that some are twice i am in a hurry :roll: :lol:

NoDTToDITMouseBatch=1
NtTNoBatch=1
NTTThreshold=0
DisableProcessWindowsMouseAcceleration=1
NoGDIHWAcceleration=1
NoAsyncInput=1
DisableMouseAcceleration=1
DisableFullscreenOptimizations=1
NoLowLevelHooks
NoBufferedInput
DisableDpiScaling
MouseNoSpeedScaling=1
DisableHIDInputBuffer=1
NoUSBQueueing=1
NoKernelMouseProcessing=1
ForceDirectMouseDriverExecution=1
NoAsyncRender
ForceThreadedInput=0
NoHyperThreadingInput=1
DisableInputPrediction=0
DisableVSync=1
DisableGameDVR=1
DisableMouseSmoothing=1
NoInputLagCompensation=0
NoSwapChainOverride=1
NoBatch=1
FixRelativeMouseMovement=1
NoLegacyMouse=0
NoForegroundLockTimeout=1
NoTimerResolutionOverride=0
DisableSystemTimers=0
DisableBackgroundTaskOptimization=1
DisableMulticoreScaling=0
NoTiledRendering=1
NoFlipQueue=1
NoSpeedScaling=1
DisableRawInputBuffer=1
EnableDirectInput=0

EnableLegacyMouseMode=0

EnablePS2RateOverride=0
ForceHighPollingRate=1

ForceUSBHIDMode=1

ForceRawInput=1
NoMouseRateOverride=1
NoUSBSelectiveSuspend=1
DisableHIDPowerSave=1

DisableUSBBuffering=1
DisableInputProcessingQueue=1
DisableDynamicTick=1
NoSMT=1
DisableKernelPaging=1
ForceHPET=1
NoWDDMOverlay=1
DisablePrefetch=1
NoNagleAlgorithm=1
DisableReceiveWindowAutoTuning=1
NoQoSReservableBandwidth=1
NoAutoDNS=1
NoUSBInterruptModeration=1
NoMouseProcessing=1
NoBackgroundMousePriority=1
DisableMouseAccelerationKernel=1
DisableHIDPollingRateLimit=1
NoCPULoadBalancing=1
ForceMaxPerformance=1
NoDynamicCoreScaling=1
DisableEnergySavingCStates=1
ForceNoKernelPaging=1
DisableAllDesktopComposition=1
NoFrameBufferQueue=1
DisableVRR=1
NoDeferredRendering=1
NoWindowsPacketScheduling=1
DisableNagleV2=1
NoBackgroundNetworkTasks=1
DisableWiFiPowerSaving=1
NoAutoTCPBufferScaling=1
DisableUACVirtualization=1
NoKernelModeDrivers=1
DisableExplorerProcessGrouping=1
DisableWindowsErrorReporting=1
DisableSuperfetch=1
DisableHIDIdleTimeout=1
ForceUSBHighPriority=1
NoExtraMouseProcessing=1
DisableHIDPollingJitter=1
DisableKernelMemoryPaging=1
NoCStateTransitions=1
DisableIRQSharing=1
DisableMemoryZeroing=1
NoDXGIFrameQueue=1
DisableDWMScaling=1
DisablePresentBuffering=1
NoPacketCoalescing=1
DisableTCPReassembly=1
NoWiFiRoaming=1
DisableTelemetryAndTracking=1
NoWindowsEventLogging=1
DisablePowerThrottling=1
EnableSubPixelProcessing=1
ForceRawInputPrecision=1
NoCursorSmoothing=1
DisablePointerRounding=1
DisableUSBPollingJitter=1
NoHIDInputDelay=1
ForceFixedPollingRate=1
NoUSBInterruptDelays=1
NoForcedMouseSmoothing=1
DisableUSBNoiseFiltering=1
ForceHighPrecisionMouseTimers=1
DisableHIDInputBuffer=1
NoUSBQueueing=1
NoKernelMouseProcessing=1
ForceDirectMouseDriverExecution=1
Where exactly did you get all these, if Microsoft doesn’t document them?