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Re: Acer 390Hz monitor - XV252QF

Posted: 02 Oct 2021, 01:06
by Zace
lyrill wrote:
02 Oct 2021, 00:13
lizardpeter wrote:
01 Oct 2021, 21:00
lyrill wrote:
01 Oct 2021, 20:25
well you guys can continue to mostly ignore me but I can tell you (trying to help as usual) that what I've seen you guys go on and on about and the laborious results you guys may or may not have finally arrive to, has all been covered long ago (8 months ago) in my vids. I don't get why any one of you STILL need to wait for any "official kol" posting ANYTHING, just enjoy it.

That's how the monitor is. As some of you also said, it's not perfect. But I told you guys long ago to max both and forget it, it's a clear and no brainer improvement, it's why the feature is there.
I am playing exclusively with this monitor now, but i am interested in sharing my findings and seeing what others are saying about it. I am not trying to ignore you, but sometimes the way you type has me confused as to what you are trying to say. I'm not trying to be rude. I am just trying to make sure I understand you correctly.

So you're saying to max both the overdrive and backlight strobing to extreme? In another post, you recommended brightness and contrast both on 8. Wouldn't that be far too dim?
Was just talking about in general. Those vids aren't in english and I don't feel like doing them all over in english again. But still.

no. extreme already is brighter than 8 and 8 and off. u start from 8 and 8 that's your productivity/browsing brightness. also gamma is set to 2.6, lowest brightness. in the day time for browsing you need to up it to 2.2, for none hdr movies 2.0 or 1.8.

for gaming at night, extreme is actually too bright and causes fatigue, not to mention this not being a perfect monitor and those obvious trails (that is to say, the main image is more sharp but the blurry ones u could guess it but didn't have distinct ghost--but in game the ufo tests are obviously not equivalent, actually the bigger the hitbox the less relevant obviously..in fact ufo test is in itself very extreme, because there isn't much game out there that have insane speed AND small hitbox, apart from flying jets, which brings back to WT again, maybe it means a lot more to the russians and euro people playing in low ping servers and in tournaments, in arcade mode--even then dogfighting in close quarter or a close flyby is still gonna be a lot faster target image on screen, while the hitbox inevitably become bigger than in distance), best to watch movies and chill at night time or just go to bed.

This I have come to feel at home with. I don't know why you would instead want brighter in productivity where there's usually white spaces all over, and then have a dimmer experience in gaming. For the 180hz ROG I can't be bothered to recall if it was not much brighter for gaming, if so, that just meant I had to game at night +turn off lights more.

I don't know about premium TV or mobile screens, nor do I need to I feel. They are not relevant for the context of hardcore gaming, and this being an "ips" and "hdr 400 capable" has shown me that there is no real different from a TN. For a gamer, the only eye hurting thing is low hz. You can still have the liberty to feel that with a high hz monitor, just play in badly optimized gamespace, play with ultra high ping and/or bad internet routes, play all max graphics. For me, I set my colors to a yellow green hue too and I don't need to share that cus it's even more preference and someone will start to disagree for no reason again. In fact with this monitor I don't think I have set any colors and really ain't bothered to check again. I certainly have max blue filter as always (which also dims brightness but that's duh), it's not like I'm missing out on anything, HDR movies are always there. Like that's your so called "normal", it's just a brief thing, my eyes will hurt if I use that max brightness all the time, with 4k media and potplayer obviously there's too much information per frame compared to all low gaming. So yeah, it pretty much HAS to be high fps low rez low brightness, or low fps high rez high brightness, for now.
Got link to your videos?

Re: Acer 390Hz monitor - XV252QF

Posted: 02 Oct 2021, 02:52
by lyrill
ye just search LYRILL on bilibili , or acer 390hz

only premium users can watch 60+fps tho so ye, another reason. I know, it's bs.

Re: Acer 390Hz monitor - XV252QF

Posted: 04 Oct 2021, 11:36
by lextheimpaler
I just returned the one I received from Amazon since the FPS counter didn't work and the image looked exceptionally grainy. When I looked at the build date it said Jan 2021. Is this right? I thought this monitor only came out recently.

Re: Acer 390Hz monitor - XV252QF

Posted: 04 Oct 2021, 15:39
by lizardpeter
lextheimpaler wrote:
04 Oct 2021, 11:36
I just returned the one I received from Amazon since the FPS counter didn't work and the image looked exceptionally grainy. When I looked at the build date it said Jan 2021. Is this right? I thought this monitor only came out recently.
That's interesting. Mine does not look grainy at all (I also have sharpening off). Honestly, I prefer the washed out look of TN panels over IPS, but I did think this display looked sharper than my other 1080p displays. Messing with the color settings gets me the same washed out look that I like.

Re: Acer 390Hz monitor - XV252QF

Posted: 04 Oct 2021, 19:05
by Anderstj
lextheimpaler wrote:
04 Oct 2021, 11:36
I just returned the one I received from Amazon since the FPS counter didn't work and the image looked exceptionally grainy. When I looked at the build date it said Jan 2021. Is this right? I thought this monitor only came out recently.
I just returned mine cos of same reason, grainy image. Are you going to try and order a new one to see if it was a panel defect?

Re: Acer 390Hz monitor - XV252QF

Posted: 05 Oct 2021, 07:57
by Notty_PT
This panel is 25 inches, wich for ppl with good eyesight, makes everything blurry.

I personally hate this size for 1080p. You can even notice how a 23,8 inch monitor is way more crisp, even with the small difference size.

I also returned mine already, not because of the size tho. Simply put, matured 240hz/270hz innolux/boe panels we can find on some 23,8 1080p or 27 1440p models, run circles around any of these New 360hz/390hz monitors.

Will wait for the upcoming TN 360hz models

To me, and I repeat, to me, and after several testing (not youtube or reddit degree), these monitors are all rubbish and Will not make you play better, while costing a lot of money. Avoid

Re: Acer 390Hz monitor - XV252QF

Posted: 05 Oct 2021, 08:46
by valgar
Notty_PT wrote:
05 Oct 2021, 07:57
This panel is 25 inches, wich for ppl with good eyesight, makes everything blurry.

I personally hate this size for 1080p. You can even notice how a 23,8 inch monitor is way more crisp, even with the small difference size.

I also returned mine already, not because of the size tho. Simply put, matured 240hz/270hz innolux/boe panels we can find on some 23,8 1080p or 27 1440p models, run circles around any of these New 360hz/390hz monitors.

Will wait for the upcoming TN 360hz models

To me, and I repeat, to me, and after several testing (not youtube or reddit degree), these monitors are all rubbish and Will not make you play better, while costing a lot of money. Avoid
Which 23,8 inch panels, equipped with said innolux/boe panels would you reccomend?
I prefer a good IPS over TN and definitely prefer having higher PPI, but the only thing I am really looking for at the moment is the best monitor for fast flicks and tracking in competitive FPS, since I am really sensitive to blur.
Also a 1440p 27" would be more taxing on hardware so I'll stick to 1080p for now for gaming and keep my old HP x27i 1440p which is decent for office stuff and photoshop.

after trying and returning the XV252QF (mine was defective tho, it didn't work at 390Hz) and reading your posts about better 240Hz alternatives like the AOC 24G2Z, I am looking to get one but it's hard to find from reliable sellers in Italy atm.

Re: Acer 390Hz monitor - XV252QF

Posted: 05 Oct 2021, 11:15
by Zace
Notty_PT wrote:
05 Oct 2021, 07:57
This panel is 25 inches, wich for ppl with good eyesight, makes everything blurry.

I personally hate this size for 1080p. You can even notice how a 23,8 inch monitor is way more crisp, even with the small difference size.

I also returned mine already, not because of the size tho. Simply put, matured 240hz/270hz innolux/boe panels we can find on some 23,8 1080p or 27 1440p models, run circles around any of these New 360hz/390hz monitors.

Will wait for the upcoming TN 360hz models

To me, and I repeat, to me, and after several testing (not youtube or reddit degree), these monitors are all rubbish and Will not make you play better, while costing a lot of money. Avoid
Other than the aoc any other matured panels in the EU?

Re: Acer 390Hz monitor - XV252QF

Posted: 05 Oct 2021, 11:48
by planart
Strange how conflicting the experiences are. I know many more CS players at my level (faceit 9-10) has changed to this and liked it very much. I like it too. Not revolutionary or anything but best I've tried. Some coming from 240Hz some from 144Hz. All think its an upgrade.

At the same time there still are ofcourse guys @ lvl 10 with 120Hz old panels, who arent tech savvy at all wiping floor with us. So. Yeah. There's always that.

Re: Acer 390Hz monitor - XV252QF

Posted: 05 Oct 2021, 12:19
by stupido13
I have a very similar case @planart. My friends also moved from the best tn monitors pros use till this day in competetive csgo or valorant (xl2540k, xl2546, xl2546k) and there was not a single person from my group of friends that wanted to go back to theirs tn benqs. All lv. 7-10 faceit. Nobody ever said something like "guys, this monitor is not for me, I'm going back to my xl2546k with dyac+" or whatever 240hz monitor they had before the purchase. Among my friends, I hear surprisingly positive opinions on the XV252QF (most of the units have been manufactured in march, one guy has a febr one but no problems at all he says). Even those who have thought there will be no significant difference between 240hz with dyac and 390hz are actually telling me "yo the performance difference is really cool" after spending a few days with the acer.

Just my personal opinion: If u dont stare at ufo tests all day and you're kinda a csgo/valorant/overwatch (the 390+ fps games) guy, you can't really go wrong with this acer monitor cuz this thing is a solid upgrade over any 144hz monitor and probably most 240hz ones. Especially if you can get your hands on a discounted unit as I did. Paid 400$, fully satisfied, would buy it again without a second thought after the experience.