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Re: Apex legends, Gameplay feels awful/choppy
Posted: 25 Aug 2024, 02:50
by ApexLeg
MontyTheAverage wrote: ↑24 Aug 2024, 14:59
jboyer wrote: ↑21 Aug 2024, 15:14
Friends, I have found the
true fix.
Windows Defender.
I was in the middle of a BR match and was getting some choppiness even though my frames were high. I went into process lasso and messed around with disabling different processes. When I disabled
MsMpEng.exe, my game immediately felt f*cking magical. I actually could not believe it. I have done literally every possible repair on the internet, literally all of them. Completely replaced my PC, new ISP, clean installs, almost all of Calypto's, Freethy's, and Panjno's optimizations, ISLC, Interrupt Affinity, RTSS, DDU, even Revios...you name it.
You need to go into safe mode, change the ownership of the msmpeng.exe in windows explorer, and then rename the file so it can't run at boot. The problem with just disabling in process lasso or task manager is that the different defender services will restart the process. After I did this, I have no more input stuttering in BR, my mouse sens is 100% consistent, and I'm also getting less desync/input lag/ferrari peaks. I don't know why this fixes the problem, but I'm starting to believe that certain hardware configurations, or certain windows installations like ours seem to have a problem with Easy Anti Cheat. And no, adding these things to exceptions doesn't work, you need to fully disable the process. This might be why all these fixes only have temporary resolution, because no matter how you change your hardware, reinstall windows, change cpu power settings etc, Windows Defender is always there. Come to think of it, I have always only had mouse lag problems in games where Easy Anti Cheat is involved: Battlebit, The Finals, Apex, Halo Infinite...
Please try this.
Dude..... Wtf.... I just tried disabling it with process lasso...... First game just got 20 kills in TDM without even trying. Mind you half the team was full of bots but I felt no desync, hitreg issues or much input lag. This felt like complete fix than anything before.... I would still do bad in this same lobby with the lag and struggle to even reach 6-7 kills. God I hope this lasts and doesn't go back to crap like so many other temporary half-fixes before
I want to try this but I don't like the idea of having Windows defender off. Wonder if another AV that disables Windows defender would do the trick?
Anyway, let me know if it continued to work well.
Re: Apex legends, Gameplay feels awful/choppy
Posted: 27 Aug 2024, 03:48
by ApexLeg
Ok, so I made a couple of changes in this thread, as well as 2 more others and I've had 2 days of no desync, no floaty mouse and no erratic gameplay on both apex on warzone. Difference has been massive compared to the previous times I've played.
I will give it a week and if it's still working I will share what it is.
Re: Apex legends, Gameplay feels awful/choppy
Posted: 29 Aug 2024, 06:56
by MontyTheAverage
ApexLeg wrote: ↑25 Aug 2024, 02:50
MontyTheAverage wrote: ↑24 Aug 2024, 14:59
jboyer wrote: ↑21 Aug 2024, 15:14
Friends, I have found the
true fix.
Windows Defender.
I was in the middle of a BR match and was getting some choppiness even though my frames were high. I went into process lasso and messed around with disabling different processes. When I disabled
MsMpEng.exe, my game immediately felt f*cking magical. I actually could not believe it. I have done literally every possible repair on the internet, literally all of them. Completely replaced my PC, new ISP, clean installs, almost all of Calypto's, Freethy's, and Panjno's optimizations, ISLC, Interrupt Affinity, RTSS, DDU, even Revios...you name it.
You need to go into safe mode, change the ownership of the msmpeng.exe in windows explorer, and then rename the file so it can't run at boot. The problem with just disabling in process lasso or task manager is that the different defender services will restart the process. After I did this, I have no more input stuttering in BR, my mouse sens is 100% consistent, and I'm also getting less desync/input lag/ferrari peaks. I don't know why this fixes the problem, but I'm starting to believe that certain hardware configurations, or certain windows installations like ours seem to have a problem with Easy Anti Cheat. And no, adding these things to exceptions doesn't work, you need to fully disable the process. This might be why all these fixes only have temporary resolution, because no matter how you change your hardware, reinstall windows, change cpu power settings etc, Windows Defender is always there. Come to think of it, I have always only had mouse lag problems in games where Easy Anti Cheat is involved: Battlebit, The Finals, Apex, Halo Infinite...
Please try this.
Dude..... Wtf.... I just tried disabling it with process lasso...... First game just got 20 kills in TDM without even trying. Mind you half the team was full of bots but I felt no desync, hitreg issues or much input lag. This felt like complete fix than anything before.... I would still do bad in this same lobby with the lag and struggle to even reach 6-7 kills. God I hope this lasts and doesn't go back to crap like so many other temporary half-fixes before
I want to try this but I don't like the idea of having Windows defender off. Wonder if another AV that disables Windows defender would do the trick?
Anyway, let me know if it continued to work well.
Yes still great after I completely turned off MsMpEng.exe. Been almost a week now and still consistent. Mouse has been consitenly smooth in game and do not feel much input lag. Nothing has worked like this before. Weird. Though I cna still fele some desync though but feels a lot better.
Re: Apex legends, Gameplay feels awful/choppy
Posted: 29 Aug 2024, 08:56
by ApexLeg
MontyTheAverage wrote: ↑29 Aug 2024, 06:56
ApexLeg wrote: ↑25 Aug 2024, 02:50
MontyTheAverage wrote: ↑24 Aug 2024, 14:59
jboyer wrote: ↑21 Aug 2024, 15:14
Friends, I have found the
true fix.
Windows Defender.
I was in the middle of a BR match and was getting some choppiness even though my frames were high. I went into process lasso and messed around with disabling different processes. When I disabled
MsMpEng.exe, my game immediately felt f*cking magical. I actually could not believe it. I have done literally every possible repair on the internet, literally all of them. Completely replaced my PC, new ISP, clean installs, almost all of Calypto's, Freethy's, and Panjno's optimizations, ISLC, Interrupt Affinity, RTSS, DDU, even Revios...you name it.
You need to go into safe mode, change the ownership of the msmpeng.exe in windows explorer, and then rename the file so it can't run at boot. The problem with just disabling in process lasso or task manager is that the different defender services will restart the process. After I did this, I have no more input stuttering in BR, my mouse sens is 100% consistent, and I'm also getting less desync/input lag/ferrari peaks. I don't know why this fixes the problem, but I'm starting to believe that certain hardware configurations, or certain windows installations like ours seem to have a problem with Easy Anti Cheat. And no, adding these things to exceptions doesn't work, you need to fully disable the process. This might be why all these fixes only have temporary resolution, because no matter how you change your hardware, reinstall windows, change cpu power settings etc, Windows Defender is always there. Come to think of it, I have always only had mouse lag problems in games where Easy Anti Cheat is involved: Battlebit, The Finals, Apex, Halo Infinite...
Please try this.
Dude..... Wtf.... I just tried disabling it with process lasso...... First game just got 20 kills in TDM without even trying. Mind you half the team was full of bots but I felt no desync, hitreg issues or much input lag. This felt like complete fix than anything before.... I would still do bad in this same lobby with the lag and struggle to even reach 6-7 kills. God I hope this lasts and doesn't go back to crap like so many other temporary half-fixes before
I want to try this but I don't like the idea of having Windows defender off. Wonder if another AV that disables Windows defender would do the trick?
Anyway, let me know if it continued to work well.
Yes still great after I completely turned off MsMpEng.exe. Been almost a week now and still consistent. Mouse has been consitenly smooth in game and do not feel much input lag. Nothing has worked like this before. Weird. Though I cna still fele some desync though but feels a lot better.
One of the things I did was install kaspersky free which is still an AV but stops MsMpEng.
Re: Apex legends, Gameplay feels awful/choppy
Posted: 31 Aug 2024, 14:47
by MontyTheAverage
ApexLeg wrote: ↑29 Aug 2024, 08:56
MontyTheAverage wrote: ↑29 Aug 2024, 06:56
ApexLeg wrote: ↑25 Aug 2024, 02:50
MontyTheAverage wrote: ↑24 Aug 2024, 14:59
Dude..... Wtf.... I just tried disabling it with process lasso...... First game just got 20 kills in TDM without even trying. Mind you half the team was full of bots but I felt no desync, hitreg issues or much input lag. This felt like complete fix than anything before.... I would still do bad in this same lobby with the lag and struggle to even reach 6-7 kills. God I hope this lasts and doesn't go back to crap like so many other temporary half-fixes before
I want to try this but I don't like the idea of having Windows defender off. Wonder if another AV that disables Windows defender would do the trick?
Anyway, let me know if it continued to work well.
Yes still great after I completely turned off MsMpEng.exe. Been almost a week now and still consistent. Mouse has been consitenly smooth in game and do not feel much input lag. Nothing has worked like this before. Weird. Though I cna still fele some desync though but feels a lot better.
One of the things I did was install kaspersky free which is still an AV but stops MsMpEng.
Update: It no longer works lol. All of a sudden stopped working. Turning it on and off stil does nothing now.
Re: Apex legends, Gameplay feels awful/choppy
Posted: 03 Sep 2024, 14:38
by Stimpy7314
Oh well, damm, didn't know this thread was still acitve.

Re: Apex legends, Gameplay feels awful/choppy
Posted: 10 Sep 2024, 18:36
by z3rg1ch
ApexLeg wrote: ↑27 Aug 2024, 03:48
Ok, so I made a couple of changes in this thread, as well as 2 more others and I've had 2 days of no desync, no floaty mouse and no erratic gameplay on both apex on warzone. Difference has been massive compared to the previous times I've played.
I will give it a week and if it's still working I will share what it is.
Can u tell what u did?
Re: Apex legends, Gameplay feels awful/choppy
Posted: 10 Sep 2024, 20:01
by JimCarry
z3rg1ch wrote: ↑10 Sep 2024, 18:36
ApexLeg wrote: ↑27 Aug 2024, 03:48
Ok, so I made a couple of changes in this thread, as well as 2 more others and I've had 2 days of no desync, no floaty mouse and no erratic gameplay on both apex on warzone. Difference has been massive compared to the previous times I've played.
I will give it a week and if it's still working I will share what it is.
can you tell now so we can try ?
Re: Apex legends, Gameplay feels awful/choppy
Posted: 19 Sep 2024, 20:40
by napoliane
After searching for a solution and trying a few things mentioned in this thread, I found a fix that I wanted to share.
I have an MSI B550 Carbon Gaming mobo. I loaded into the bios and enabled Re-size BAR Support. The file path for the advanced bios setting is shown in the screenshot (I think) that I attached.
From there I loaded into Apex, and everything has been smooth as always. If something changes I'll update this post.
Re: Apex legends, Gameplay feels awful/choppy
Posted: 19 Sep 2024, 20:50
by RealNC
napoliane wrote: ↑19 Sep 2024, 20:40
After searching for a solution and trying a few things mentioned in this thread, I found a fix that I wanted to share.
That's great, but did you really have to post this 20 times? Holy shit.