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Ultra. If you see stutter in a game, you can always lower it for just that game's profile.smoothnobody wrote: ↑15 Feb 2022, 02:27makes sense. if you had a RTX 3080, and you didn't want to be bothered with turning LLM on and off based on what game you are playing, what would be your set it and forget it setting?
Similar to what RealNC said, if you're not using G-SYNC, and you must have LLM enabled, setting it to "Ultra" globally, with per-profile configuration in problem games is probably as set-and-forget as that settings will get.smoothnobody wrote: ↑15 Feb 2022, 02:27makes sense. if you had a RTX 3080, and you didn't want to be bothered with turning LLM on and off based on what game you are playing, what would be your set it and forget it setting?
There's a situation where ultra is useful with g-sync. I usually set my FPS limit to something the game can reach the majority of the time. If there's like one specific area in a game where it falls a bit below the limit because that area is too GPU intensive, ultra helps reduce the input lag difference between that and the rest of the game. I find the lag difference actually more annoying that the FPS difference. Dropping from 100FPS to 80FPS isn't that bad in itself, but the lag difference due to GPU load can be quite noticeable.
Right, that's what I use LLM "On" for with G-SYNC.
I'm not sure why it would stop doing what it's known for just because g-sync is active? The just in time pre-render thing of ultra shouldn't be affected by vsync or gsync, I believe.
Would it not, since G-SYNC technically already delivers frames "just in time?" Non-GSYNC V-SYNC scenarios are stuck with fixed refresh intervals, though I suppose no sync would be exempt where the render queue is concerned in this scenario, so hard to say.
G-sync doesn't seem to affect the pre-render queue at all. Like, not even a tiny bit. Which makes sense. It only syncs the display to the frame presentation. The pre-render queue has nothing to do with that.
Since there is a big difference between low latency mode OFF and ON with g-sync, it shouldn't come as a surprise that ultra also does the same thing with g-sync as it does without it.Again, I've never personally experienced a notable difference between LLM "On" and "Ultra" beyond the static FPS limit when used with G-SYNC
That's nice and all, but literally none of the games I play have reflexI also had the understanding that a dynamic limiter would not be viable at the driver-level where LLM "Ultra" was concerned, hence why Reflex ultimately needed to be implemented at the engine-level, and now acts as an LLM replacement.
Witcher 3. I enabled DSR 4x on my 1440p display to get 5K resolution (5120x2880.) I then ran the game in that res, with g-sync on and LLM off. My poor 980 Ti can't cope well and it struggles to maintain even 30FPS at 5K. The input lag is so obvious, I can count the delay without any software. I then set LLM to ON, and it's clear as day that there's a huge input lag reduction. Setting it to ultra "seems to me" improves it a bit further, but it could be placebo. However, since OFF and ON have a huge latency difference beyond doubt, I don't see why ultra wouldn't improve it a bit further, like it does without g-sync.If you have a game you know for certain LLM works in and is easy to make GPU-bound, assuming I already own it, I would consider using my LDAT to do some limited testing in the (indefinite) future.
So it looks like g-sync doesn't do anything at all to the pre-render queue, and thus ultra should provide exactly the same behavior with g-sync as it does without g-sync (minus the FPS cap, of course.)
Aware, but it isn't confirmed how they flag ULLM at the driver level when G-SYNC is enabled where the "just-in-time" component is concerned.
Possibly, but there hasn't been concrete evidence either way, unfortunately, hence the reason I've simply recommended "On" if one must use LLM with G-SYNC and also wants to set a manual FPS limit.
Few do, especially single-player-only games.
Again, regarding the emboldened in your quote, perhaps, it would just be really, really difficult to isolate with certainty, seeing as any difference between "Ultra" and "On" could be as low as a half frame in some cases. Hmm...RealNC wrote: ↑15 Feb 2022, 18:14Witcher 3. I enabled DSR 4x on my 1440p display to get 5K resolution (5120x2880.) I then ran the game in that res, with g-sync on and LLM off. My poor 980 Ti can't cope well and it struggles to maintain even 30FPS at 5K. The input lag is so obvious, I can count the delay without any software. I then set LLM to ON, and it's clear as day that there's a huge input lag reduction. Setting it to ultra "seems to me" improves it a bit further, but it could be placebo. However, since OFF and ON have a huge latency difference beyond doubt, I don't see why ultra wouldn't improve it a bit further, like it does without g-sync.
You can also use profile inspector and set pre-rendered frames to something like 10. Good for a laugh. Input lag becomes so ludicrous, you can leave the PC and get a coffee between inputs
That looks sufficient, sans the per-game FPS limits, of course.
While there are exceptions, anything at or below -3 FPS is typically safe, even with an in-game limiter, so 160 FPS is fine.
Yes, if you were to choose a preset for a 144Hz G-SYNC display, 120 FPS would be the one; 144 FPS is too close.gameinn wrote: ↑15 Feb 2022, 18:59Game 2: Death Stranding
Game has a 30, 60, 120, 144 and 240 fps option. Am I correct in saying if I had a 144 Hz monitor choosing the 144 option would be borderline bad right due to how close it would be? Choosing 144 for a 165 Hz screen seems decent though. It would make more sense to choose 120 if I did have a 144 Hz screen?
You forgot to include the title for game #3.
