Asus VG279qm/VG259QM vs MSI MAG251RX. in depth comparison of the best IPS 240hz(i've tried them all,Amazon BAN incoming)

[Blehhh]

@RLCScontender

Can you upload the motion blur test at ufo of your MSI optix MAG251rx?
I mean this: https://www.testufo.com/ghosting

I think everyone would apprecciate that, esspecialy its in depth comparison of bests ips 240hz right now.

Here is mine, the motion blur/clarity tests of ASus VG259QM:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLjBVT5 ... e=youtu.be

If you can do the ghosting test of the VG27QM that would be great

I also ordered at VG279QM, just to see if the 27 inch version has better motion clarity, I will upload that if someone will want in 2-3 days, when I get the monitor.

If the Msi will have better motion clarity I will definitly wait for that one, because its not in Poland yet. And I can't order it.

lol i did an oscilloscope test and the MSI's g2g average is wayy faster than the 280hz asus. 3.1 g2g average vs 3.8 g2g average. The only thing the asus has over the MSI is MPRT thanks to elmb sync. but that only is factored in at high framerates, but the tradeoff is crosstalk and pixel smearing. TBH, i put it as a "tie" but in reality, the MSI is better in almost every way except it's ugly stand and its slightly more aggressive overshoot.

not going to dignify doing these "Ghosting tests" comparisons knowing that all you do is cherry pick and confirm your bias(confirmation bias) to fit your narrative. Yo'uve done that on multiple occasions on that previous thread and proceeded to be condescending and disrespectful

Go to amazon, buy yourself an oscilloscope, then order the MSI. compare it to your asus, and see who really has faster pixel response times.

TN is TN, and their purpose is speed and nothing else. If you take away a TN's advantage over IPS and mitigate it in levels where it's not even remotely visible at high framerates, then it's obious this is the beginning of the end for TN technology.

if u are unhappy with your asus. Get the 25 inch alienware or the MSI, or stick to TN. Nobody here is trying to convince you. All i'm doign is showing information based off of MY findings of ordering every 240hz IPS monitor and comparing them among each other.

What a dissrespect, I dont know why you think im aggressive, I asked nicely just to record the ghosting test of MSI, like you did before with your Viewsonic, etc.
You don't have this monitor anymore, or what?
Why you just can't record this 8 sec video like you actualy did, but without focus on the ufos?


For me ghosting test is all I want to know before buying athis monitor, but i just want to see if this is worth waiting for MSI, cuz I already can have the Asus, I have 9 days to return it, then I would need to wait 2 weeks for MSI - I just need to know if this is worth to wait, or not, then I don't return the asus. Im also perfectionist.

But i think alright, if you can't record simply video just to compare with mine, then fine, gonna buy it anyway, hope it will be worth, otherwise It will be your fualt, because you could make it simplier for me, just by uploading the video. Now I will need to wait 2 weeks for MSI and if this will be crap with motion clarity, then I will need to buy again the asus, and if this will be worse than mine (without any ips glow or pixel) then I will be mad. THanks.

Are you going for the msi or asus personally?
what games do you play sir?
and thanks everyone for all the answers

[RLCSContender*]

LG UltraGear 27GN750 is up by hardware unboxed

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really tim? 3.85 g2g average? that is extremely generous, then again, they have different measuring standards.

I'm surprised they were positive throughout the video. Then again, they have a strong bias towards LG panels so keep that in mind.

Heres'a n example. They had the viewsonic elite xg270qg at 5.2ms response time and the lg 27gl850-b at 4.17ms response time. Yet almost EVERY review company (TFT, Prad.de, Snowman, etc) easily had the viewsonic faster than the LG. Another example is the LG 32gk850-f, tft had it at 8ms response time while hardware unboxed had the same panel at 4.3ms respones time. TWo different revieweres, with vastly DIFFERENT g2g averages

i do agree with the underlying point that the LG is clearly slower than the MSI

[RLCSContender*]

My first VG279qm from AMazon Warehouse. it stated "like new" "item will come in original packaging" came with a dead pixel and horrible backlight bleed(now i see WHY the first owner returned it)

. Returned it.. One month later...

i was browsing around looking for the 280hz asus since i miss gaming at 280hz and owning those TN users

saw the vg279qm priced at $349.99, on its "amazon renewed". Basically., amazon sends their defective products to a 3rd party refurbishing company to inspect, clean, and fix the monitor.

I even emailed one of them asking if it has any bad backlight bleed and dead pixels. The rep. emailed me back


welp here's the garbage that I got. NOT only was it the wrong monitor (vg279q a 144hz IPS). but it had like 5 dead pixels but the backlight bleed was minimal.

remember guys, when u make these expensive purchases. NEVER buy used or refurbished. At that point, you are gamblign on the lottery over a $60-70 discount. Get it new, trust me on this. There's a 90% chance your "used like new" monitor has a dead pixel or bad backlight bleed(even if its refurbished).

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[Dirty Scrubz]

Are you constantly buying/returning monitors to Amazon? If you are, get ready to have your account suspended eventually. And yes, buying refurb/renewed is always a gamble, hence the cheaper price.

[RLCSContender*]

Are you constantly buying/returning monitors to Amazon? If you are, get ready to have your account suspended eventually. And yes, buying refurb/renewed is always a gamble, hence the cheaper price.

Theyh ave threatened suspension but i have every evidence that justifies my return. Whether it's a stuck pixel, dead pixel, inaccurate website description, etc. and every single time they apologized.

what they are looking for is a pattern of fraud or abuse. If the returns are justified(if you can prove it, even better), then won't harass you. Also, as a prime member, they generally wont' suspend me unless i make an excessive amount of returns w/o much justification.

out of maybe 10 items i buy, maybe 1 i would return.

also, it's a buyer's account. Not a sellers account. A buyer's cannot, they dont' really give a shit if you make another one. If it was a seller account, it's a PERm ban

[Dirty Scrubz]

Are you constantly buying/returning monitors to Amazon? If you are, get ready to have your account suspended eventually. And yes, buying refurb/renewed is always a gamble, hence the cheaper price.

Theyh ave threatened suspension but i have every evidence that justifies my return. Whether it's a stuck pixel, dead pixel, inaccurate website description, etc. and every single time they apologized.

what they are looking for is a pattern of fraud or abuse. If the returns are justified(if you can prove it, even better), then won't harass you. Also, as a prime member, they generally wont' suspend me unless i make an excessive amount of returns w/o much justification.

out of maybe 10 items i buy, maybe 1 i would return.

also, it's a buyer's account. Not a sellers account. A buyer's cannot, they dont' really give a shit if you make another one. If it was a seller account, it's a PERm ban

I can guarantee you that's not true at all. They will definitely perm ban you and even if you sign up again they'll block you. Being a prime member or even justification for these returns doesn't matter to them--they look at their bottom line and you cost them shipping money each time you return something. Don't be surprised when your account is gone and you're locked out of Amazon for good. I have family that works at Amazon corporate so my sources are good.

[RLCSContender*]

Are you constantly buying/returning monitors to Amazon? If you are, get ready to have your account suspended eventually. And yes, buying refurb/renewed is always a gamble, hence the cheaper price.

Theyh ave threatened suspension but i have every evidence that justifies my return. Whether it's a stuck pixel, dead pixel, inaccurate website description, etc. and every single time they apologized.

what they are looking for is a pattern of fraud or abuse. If the returns are justified(if you can prove it, even better), then won't harass you. Also, as a prime member, they generally wont' suspend me unless i make an excessive amount of returns w/o much justification.

out of maybe 10 items i buy, maybe 1 i would return.

also, it's a buyer's account. Not a sellers account. A buyer's cannot, they dont' really give a shit if you make another one. If it was a seller account, it's a PERm ban

I can guarantee you that's not true at all. They will definitely perm ban you and even if you sign up again they'll block you. Being a prime member or even justification for these returns doesn't matter to them--they look at their bottom line and you cost them shipping money each time you return something. Don't be surprised when your account is gone and you're locked out of Amazon for good. I have family that works at Amazon corporate so my sources are good.

yeah, if the return isn't justified, that's not good. If the return is no fault of my own, it's justified. Did you not read what i said?

also, and no, whenever someone fabricates a "i know my uncle's rabbits aunt who's the manager of jeff bezo's corporate team" 99x out of 100, they are bsing.

[Dirty Scrubz]

Im going to laugh when they ban you for return abuse.

[Underwhelmed]

i have used the following monitors,

asus vg248qe 144hz TN Panel
Benq xl2430T 144hz TN Panel
Acer Predator XB1 165hz IPS Panel
Benq XL2546 240hz TN Panel with Dyac
Prism X340 100hz Ultrawide VA Panel
MSI MAG24C 144hz VA Panel
Alienware AW2518H 240hz TN Panel
and now,

the Asus VG259QM 280hz IPS Panel

How does the VG259QM compare to the AW2518H? There seems to be broad agreement the AW2518H panel is unbeatable for motion clarity, but how does the VG259QM stack up in color/brightness?

[jnashville]

in my layman experience, because i use alot of vibrance in my monitors to make the colors pop, in terms of percentage wise, i would say that the vg259qm has only about 10 percent better colors than the aw2518h. but it takes a discerning eye to really see a difference.

for build quality and aesthetics, the alienware wins hands down. but if you want the world fastest monitor at the moment, the asus vg259qm at 280hz is still the best. Especially if your games can hit 280 fps and above, like csgo, overwatch dota etc