05/22/2020 UPDATE. The IPS 240hz monitor tier list.(I've measured/tried the all) and my honest explanation why.

[RLCSContender*]

If i will play TEKKEN 7 (locked on 60fps) on my VG279QM on PC with 240-280hz + Optimal OverDrive, i will get input lag 1.7ms - "240-280hz" or 35.1ms "60hz"?

As a part of the fighting game community(i used to play SFV and Smash ultimate @ tournaments on a daily basis), i do not recommend this.

i mean sure, higher refresh-->less latency. IT's refreshing at the fastest speed the monitor can allow

but i wouldn't recommend it because your inputs may not come out during a stutter or microstutter, and the likelihood of this happening is very high because the the frame pacing won't be consistent due to stuttering. 60 on 240 will also be more noticeably blurry and the microstuttering/stutter mean some of your inputs may not come out, or your precision timing on a combo will NOT register on random situations. Also, expect a lot of frame skipping and aliasing.


you are better off at 60fps/60hz fixed refresh and have your brain get used to the input lag that is plagued with the vg279qm. Honestly man, i wouldn't recommend the vg279qm on 60hz fixed FPS video games. U are better off using a flatscreen TV if that were the case, that or u could always reconsider your current choice and get the MSI MAG251rx or predator xb273x or AW2521HF, the input lag @60hz fixed refresh is excellent.

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input lag is so low, i am able to accurately PREDICT where i can throw the axe BEFORE the player does any movements. The axe throw has a long startup btw

[kofman13]

If i will play TEKKEN 7 (locked on 60fps) on my VG279QM on PC with 240-280hz + Optimal OverDrive, i will get input lag 1.7ms - "240-280hz" or 35.1ms "60hz"?

As a part of the fighting game community(i used to play SFV and Smash ultimate @ tournaments on a daily basis), i do not recommend this.

i mean sure, higher refresh-->less latency. IT's refreshing at the fastest speed the monitor can allow

but i wouldn't recommend it because your inputs may not come out during a stutter or microstutter, and the likelihood of this happening is very high because the the frame pacing won't be consistent due to stuttering. 60 on 240 will also be more noticeably blurry and the microstuttering/stutter mean some of your inputs may not come out, or your precision timing on a combo will NOT register on random situations. Also, expect a lot of frame skipping and aliasing.


you are better off at 60fps/60hz fixed refresh and have your brain get used to the input lag that is plagued with the vg279qm. Honestly man, i wouldn't recommend the vg279qm on 60hz fixed FPS video games. U are better off using a flatscreen TV if that were the case, that or u could always reconsider your current choice and get the MSI MAG251rx or predator xb273x or AW2521HF, the input lag @60hz fixed refresh is excellent.

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input lag is so low, i am able to accurately PREDICT where i can throw the axe BEFORE the player does any movements. The axe throw has a long startup btw

I just hooked up my nintendo switch to my XB273 X, what settings should i use on the monitor for best gameplay?

[jon52800]

If i will play TEKKEN 7 (locked on 60fps) on my VG279QM on PC with 240-280hz + Optimal OverDrive, i will get input lag 1.7ms - "240-280hz" or 35.1ms "60hz"?

As a part of the fighting game community(i used to play SFV and Smash ultimate @ tournaments on a daily basis), i do not recommend this.

i mean sure, higher refresh-->less latency. IT's refreshing at the fastest speed the monitor can allow

but i wouldn't recommend it because your inputs may not come out during a stutter or microstutter, and the likelihood of this happening is very high because the the frame pacing won't be consistent due to stuttering. 60 on 240 will also be more noticeably blurry and the microstuttering/stutter mean some of your inputs may not come out, or your precision timing on a combo will NOT register on random situations. Also, expect a lot of frame skipping and aliasing.


you are better off at 60fps/60hz fixed refresh and have your brain get used to the input lag that is plagued with the vg279qm. Honestly man, i wouldn't recommend the vg279qm on 60hz fixed FPS video games. U are better off using a flatscreen TV if that were the case, that or u could always reconsider your current choice and get the MSI MAG251rx or predator xb273x or AW2521HF, the input lag @60hz fixed refresh is excellent.

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input lag is so low, i am able to accurately PREDICT where i can throw the axe BEFORE the player does any movements. The axe throw has a long startup btw

What about the VG259QM with regards to input lag for consoles? I only want 25" anyways so the 27 is out of question for me. It's the same panel as the MSI/Alienware right? I'm figuring it is in same ball park with regards to input lag?

[Eminent]

I got a question... which one is the better choice and does even matter? XB273 Gxbmiipprzx and XB273 Xbmiprzx seem to have the same specs besides the ports or am i blind and missing another difference. My friend just order the XB273 Gxbmiipprzx because it was in stock at Walmart for 370$ plus tax and I see that the Xbmiprzx model is 500$ on amazon wonder if theirs a difference in performance between the both models.

[RLCSContender*]

The vg259qm is not plagued with the 60hz fixed refresh input lag. As a matter of fact, it was just as snappy as my msi mag251rx and 25" alienware. However xb273x felt slightly more snappy, then again there's no processing delay in the nitro and predator models outside of the mandatory refr3sh latency of 16.66667 @ 60hz


How im able to tell these differences is simply changing the refresh rate to 60hz and move your mouse to see if there's latency dbl images. Or playing smash ultimate. The scaler of the xb273x compresses the front buffer latency and eliminates most of the latency cycle. I tested the voltage that was being carried over via oscilloscope. Also thx to the new hdmi vrr + g sync(freesync support)module where there is NO collision, that basically eliminates latency by eliminating multiple frames from being drawn on the monitor. .01ms input lag i felt like a god until my dead pixel arrived... RIP xb273x

[Siye]

How long till PART 3 VG259QM MINI REVIEW?

Also can you add in your mini review a section of ELMB without G-Sync with the numbers etc. I get around 150 FPS in Warzone, So would that mean i have to change the OD to 240 @ 80 for the best experience. But in other games i get over 240 so is the best setting 280@80 with or without ELMB-Sync/ELMB?? am i also right to say 280 @ 80 With ELMB is the closest thing to a CRT currently?

I can see clearly below 240fps the MSI is the one to go for, but you clearly stated that the ASUS is the fastest in the world for peak proformance which appeals to me greatly in the games i hit 280FPS on, even if its motion clarity and not g2g speeds.

Im litterally waiting for this review as my questions in the past 2 days are unanswered... Hopefully i can go ahead and spend my hard earned money on this monitor when i see the results. Thanks

[PixelDuck87]

As a part of the fighting game community(i used to play SFV and Smash ultimate @ tournaments on a daily basis), i do not recommend this.

i mean sure, higher refresh-->less latency. IT's refreshing at the fastest speed the monitor can allow

but i wouldn't recommend it because your inputs may not come out during a stutter or microstutter, and the likelihood of this happening is very high because the the frame pacing won't be consistent due to stuttering. 60 on 240 will also be more noticeably blurry and the microstuttering/stutter mean some of your inputs may not come out, or your precision timing on a combo will NOT register on random situations. Also, expect a lot of frame skipping and aliasing.

Just curious, doesn't stutter occurs when frame rate is fluctuating a lot? In fighting games, it should be a nice and steady 60fps at all times (if not played on a potato of crouse) so where does the stutter come from?

[jon52800]

The vg259qm is not plagued with the 60hz fixed refresh input lag. As a matter of fact, it was just as snappy as my msi mag251rx and 25" alienware. However xb273x felt slightly more snappy, then again there's no processing delay in the nitro and predator models outside of the mandatory refr3sh latency of 16.66667 @ 60hz


How im able to tell these differences is simply changing the refresh rate to 60hz and move your mouse to see if there's latency dbl images. Or playing smash ultimate. The scaler of the xb273x compresses the front buffer latency and eliminates most of the latency cycle. I tested the voltage that was being carried over via oscilloscope. Also thx to the new hdmi vrr + g sync(freesync support)module where there is NO collision, that basically eliminates latency by eliminating multiple frames from being drawn on the monitor. .01ms input lag i felt like a god until my dead pixel arrived... RIP xb273x

Thanks for the clarification. I think I'm going to go with the VG259QM since it is the cheapest between it and the MSI/Alienware that I can find for pre-order here in the US. Granted I haven't seen what coupons Dell is offering for their monitors. Also, I saw on another thread someone who has purchased the VG259QM was able to enable 10 bit color at 240hz on the monitor (it won't do 10 bit at 280hz though). He listed the steps in the post and I can't speak for him but apparently it is possible. Not saying it is going to be as vibrant as the MSI but just letting others know there is an option to do this somehow.

[RLCSContender*]

As a part of the fighting game community(i used to play SFV and Smash ultimate @ tournaments on a daily basis), i do not recommend this.

i mean sure, higher refresh-->less latency. IT's refreshing at the fastest speed the monitor can allow

but i wouldn't recommend it because your inputs may not come out during a stutter or microstutter, and the likelihood of this happening is very high because the the frame pacing won't be consistent due to stuttering. 60 on 240 will also be more noticeably blurry and the microstuttering/stutter mean some of your inputs may not come out, or your precision timing on a combo will NOT register on random situations. Also, expect a lot of frame skipping and aliasing.

Just curious, doesn't stutter occurs when frame rate is fluctuating a lot? In fighting games, it should be a nice and steady 60fps at all times (if not played on a potato of crouse) so where does the stutter come from?

Except the fps isnt always gonna be 60hz.(even if u use a framerate limiter)Sometimes 61hz occur, or 59hz, etc of that happns, judder will occur. (Which means it will mess up your input timing). Not only that but u will see screen tearing as well

With fighting games stick with 60hz refresh. There will be input lag but i will have that over judder or stutter or tearing. With fighting games, latency is an issue but judder is even a bigger issue. Honestly, just invest in good monitor that has low input lag at 60hz

[Blehhh]

As a part of the fighting game community(i used to play SFV and Smash ultimate @ tournaments on a daily basis), i do not recommend this.

i mean sure, higher refresh-->less latency. IT's refreshing at the fastest speed the monitor can allow

but i wouldn't recommend it because your inputs may not come out during a stutter or microstutter, and the likelihood of this happening is very high because the the frame pacing won't be consistent due to stuttering. 60 on 240 will also be more noticeably blurry and the microstuttering/stutter mean some of your inputs may not come out, or your precision timing on a combo will NOT register on random situations. Also, expect a lot of frame skipping and aliasing.

Just curious, doesn't stutter occurs when frame rate is fluctuating a lot? In fighting games, it should be a nice and steady 60fps at all times (if not played on a potato of crouse) so where does the stutter come from?

Except the fps isnt always gonna be 60hz.(even if u use a framerate limiter)Sometimes 61hz occur, or 59hz, etc of that happns, judder will occur. (Which means it will mess up your input timing). Not only that but u will see screen tearing as well

With fighting games stick with 60hz refresh. There will be input lag but i will have that over judder or stutter or tearing. With fighting games, latency is an issue but judder is even a bigger issue. Honestly, just invest in good monitor that has low input lag at 60hz

Rlsconstender, you mentioned you want a total of 3 monitor including the upcoming 360hz monitor, which leave you with 2 monitors, which 2 monitors are you keeping? since you sent back the XB 273.